New song for 'Arry

[Paolo10]

This is why we're at bare bones.

http://www.physioroom.com/news/english_premier_league/epl_injury_table.php

 

[Paolo10]

How could it have been easily avoided by the way? With Bassong and fucking Corluka?

Did you watch them play for us this year before they moved?

 

[Kingstheman]

How could it have been easily avoided by the way? With Bassong and fucking Corluka?

Did you watch them play for us this year before they moved?

Ah, so they have no role and are poor, so we should leave the job to Walker on his own in one position and King, Gallas and the already injured Dawson?

Conversely, how well did they play 2 years ago?

 

[Mr Pink]

How could it have been easily avoided by the way? With Bassong and fucking Corluka?

Did you watch them play for us this year before they moved?

Perhaps if they had been used more they would of been more reliable. Corluka lacks pace but he ticks a lot of other boxes, he's a good all round RB.

Any little excuse for you, its predictably boring.

 

[nightgoat]

How could it have been easily avoided by the way? With Bassong and fucking Corluka?

Did you watch them play for us this year before they moved?

Did you watch them play the year we finished 4th?

 

[bomberH]

I'm not fickle at all. I have stuck up for Redknapp for most of his tenure, including when we imploded last season (through a relatively benign run-in, after having got ourselves into a fantaastic position). I have said that if he doesn't get offered/doesn't take the AngrrrrrLund job, but does take us into the CL, I suppose, I wouldn't be apoplectic if he were allowed to continue. But I do have a serious concern, and it is one I know other SCers share: this is yet another slump at the business end of the season; it is almost like, at this level, it is part of his MO. I know, for the first time, have serious doubts that he has it in him to cope at this level. His methodology of making his select group of first teamers feel special tires them out by the business end of the season, while alienating the outsiders who remain, merely squad players, more so at exactly the period when we could really do with them coming through. To exacerbate this, he doesn't seem to have any comprehension of the value of core fitness training - if the reports are true. And his training methods, while being exceptional for team-spirit creation, just do not seem to be equipping us in such basaic areas as the taking and defending of set-pieces. This season we haven't even got the excuse that the team are tired due to CL involvement.

If we had a horrible start to the season, this season, but finished like a house on fire, even if we got the same points and finishing league position as we will eventually do anyway, I would be unperturbed. But I am, because, once again, we are struggling, and struggling in such basic ways, at the business end of the season.

I am not really being hostile to Redknapp - if he has just taken us as far as he can, fair enough, we all have limits to our abilities. I am thankful for what he has done, we have some great memories, and, as someone said elsewhere, he has exceeded his remit, which was to stabilize the club. But I am not of the opinion that we probably need someone who can rectify all of these areas, while combining it with some of his finer qualities. It is not a decision I reached afterthe Goons hammering, or the United game, or the Everton game. it is not even a decision I reached after the Norwich game - so I don't think you can label it as unreasoned knee-jerking. I finally reached this decision after the QPR game. I think the man has taken us as far as he can, it is time to say thankyou for your efforts - he'll most likely be moving on to his best efforts, so it isn't even like he is being shuffled out the back door with undue haste. But I think his time has past - I don't think that is being fickle.

I am a dick, however

I don't think this one will catch on in the terraces SP. Bit long.

 

[Paolo10]

Dawson got injured in March, Kaboul even more recently, he can play right back too. Why do you think we recalled Adam Smith from Leeds when Walker picked up a knock a while back?

At the end of January we had, Gallas, King, Dawson, Kaboul and Nelsen fit for Centre Half. Was 5 enough? You'd probably say yes. Inuries have been cruel.

Would I want Corluka or Bassong back to play? No, in fact when would we have played them pray tell? They got their games in the shit Cups with the kids and they were far from fucking great in any of them.

Play them against any of the teams that have beaten us? Would they make a difference? I doubt it.

Bassong is the one that makes me laugh the most, he is a complete liability.

 

[Mr Pink]

Dawson got injured in March, Kaboul even more recently, he can play right back too. Why do you think we recalled Adam Smith from Leeds when Walker picked up a knock a while back?

At the end of January we had, Gallas, King, Dawson, Kaboul and Nelsen fit for Centre Half. Was 5 enough? You'd probably say yes. Inuries have been cruel.

Would I want Corluka or Bassong back to play? No, in fact when would we have played them pray tell? They got their games in the shit Cups with the kids and they were far from fucking great in any of them.

Play them against any of the teams that have beaten us? Would they make a difference? I doubt it.

Bassong is the one that makes me laugh the most, he is a complete liability.

Hold on a minute.

5 CBs? No. King with his situation, Gallas very injury prone and a gamble who hadn't kicked a ball in the League for over a year....that does not equate to 5 fit and healthy CBs. Not a chance.

We were unlucky with Dawson, and now Kaboul but that's what squads are for. United have been missing their best CB for most of the season, and Ferdinand comes in and out of the side constantly.

I was never a real Bassong fan, but he did have a great season beside Dawson when we qualified for the CL - so he's not as shite as you're making out that's for sure.

 

[Paolo10]

Did you watch them play the year we finished 4th?

That was a long time ago relatively speaking now. I'd rather they were judged on their recent form which it seems they were, we were playing so well that they couldn't get near the team.

Corluka's player 5 or 6 times for a team in a weaker league, in 6th place. He wanted to play to represent Croatia in the Euros. HE WOULDN'T GET ON. HE STILL WOULDN'T NOW. Walker is far better and offers a lot more.

 

[Mr Pink]

That was a long time ago relatively speaking now. I'd rather they were judged on their recent form which it seems they were, we were playing so well that they couldn't get near the team.

Corluka's player 5 or 6 times for a team in a weaker league, in 6th place. He wanted to play to represent Croatia in the Euros. HE WOULDN'T GET ON. HE STILL WOULDN'T NOW. Walker is far better and offers a lot more.

Isn't that convenient.

At a time where they wern't getting a regular run of games, better yet...they hardly ever played, so you're judging them on an appearance every 10 games or more.

They both played a huge amount of games when we finished fourth, and Corluka in particular is a good player.

And that team they couldn't get near looks pretty cream crackered now - that's the whole point.

 

[Paolo10]

Yeah Charlie and Seb would sort us out. Fucking wise up you sheep.

 

[Mr Pink]

Its like talking to a simpleton

 

[StartingPrice]

I don't think this one will catch on in the terraces SP. Bit long.

Okay, how about: 'Arry Redknapp's he did well for us but has probably reached his level, but we should support him and the team in his remaining time before respectfully wish him good luck in the England job Army?

 

[Kingstheman]

Dawson got injured in March, Kaboul even more recently, he can play right back too. Why do you think we recalled Adam Smith from Leeds when Walker picked up a knock a while back?

At the end of January we had, Gallas, King, Dawson, Kaboul and Nelsen fit for Centre Half. Was 5 enough? You'd probably say yes. Inuries have been cruel.

Would I want Corluka or Bassong back to play? No, in fact when would we have played them pray tell? They got their games in the shit Cups with the kids and they were far from fucking great in any of them.

Play them against any of the teams that have beaten us? Would they make a difference? I doubt it.

Bassong is the one that makes me laugh the most, he is a complete liability.

Dawson has spent most of the season injured: He’d been recovering around the time he got re-injured!

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/dec/30/michael-dawson-full-training-tottenham

No manager should have been tinkering with our defence in such a frivolous manner!

This misses the point somewhat. Harry has decided to try and squeeze every last second out of Ledley King. You, I, my pet cat all know that this was going to end in tears. The defence need to get used to playing with each other, managers from Graham to Wenger to Ferguson to Harry 3 days ago, state that a settled back 4 is desired.

But Harry kept using King. You, me, SC, my pet cat all know that Ledley King won't play every game of the season and is one tackle away from weeks out - and not even a big tackle at that. He also had Gallas, who is rapidly getting older and is also injury prone. So that leaves Dawson, Kaboul and Bassong and Bassong is sent on loan - replaced by Nelsen.

When injuries occur, Ferguson, Wenger and other top managers trust their own players and/or their youth. What did we do? We got in another centre half pensioner (against whom I have no axe to grind) - madness, instead of using a player who had played a full season and helped us get to 4th.

Given our lack of full backs, what did we do? We had Walker and Corluka (who is a utility player - excellent to keep should various injuries/suspensions occur) - we let Corluka go and now we have a youth player backing up a player in his first season - again, the strategy is not sound.

At left back, we only have BAE. He is out now. We are left with Danny Rose and Gareth Bale, two left sided players who can 'do' both positions ('do' is a loose term here).

But he is happy with that squad, until he 'can only use what he has got, hasn't got a settled back four...' et cetera...

You big up Walker in a later post. Most Tottenham fans would, but again, Walker is a player in his first full season and his back up/competition is Adam Smith. I agree, Walker is good. Situation is.... bad.

Mistake after mistake after….

 

[Spurger King]

He also had Gallas, who is rapidly getting older

I agree with most of your post but this bit made me chuckle! Pretty sure he's ageing at the same speed as the rest of us

 

[StartingPrice]

I agree with most of your post but this bit made me chuckle! Pretty sure he's ageing at the same speed as the rest of us

Not so. He had some canine DNA sliced in, in a dangerous genetic experiment (He run like samelar hound, etc.)

 

[Kingstheman]

I am sorry for the rant, but I am so angry about what is happening at Spurs.

Gerry Francis was lambasted by Tottenham fans because he mismanaged Darren Anderton - an injury prone player who could have rivalled Beckham. One player.

Redknapp is mismanaging a whole host of players.

 

[Paolo10]

Yes, but you all firmly lay these 'mistakes' at Harry's door, I'm pretty sure it's not as cut and dry as all that. Besides again, I doubt either of them would have played much at all. We were interested in Cahill, we were looking a good centre half, it just so happened in January that Nelsen was the only one we got, now who that was down to? I'd say it was a combination, but can you really blame HR for getting an experienced head in as short term back up? I can't imagine anyone at the club wanted Nelsen to play, but with injuries that's how it worked out. Prices in Jan are far from DL's thing, we ended up with a couple of freebies. Thrifty.

It's a complete mob mentality here now and it's not what we need for the final 4 games IMO.

 

[Spurs_Bear]

Fuck the songs in this thread, BomberH and Spurger King are absolutely killing it.

Literally nearly pissed my pants three times.

Then shit the bed.

 

[StartingPrice]

Yes, but you all firmly lay these 'mistakes' at Harry's door, I'm pretty sure it's not as cut and dry as all that. Besides again, I doubt either of them would have played much at all. We were interested in Cahill, we were looking a good centre half, it just so happened in January that Nelsen was the only one we got, now who that was down to? I'd say it was a combination, but can you really blame HR for getting an experienced head in as short term back up? I can't imagine anyone at the club wanted Nelsen to play, but with injuries that's how it worked out. Prices in Jan are far from DL's thing, we ended up with a couple of freebies. Thrifty.

It's a complete mob mentality here now and it's not what we need for the final 4 games IMO.

The problem, as has been explained to you several times, is that they wouldn't have played much...because Redknapp insists on concentrating all his efforts and all his positivity on his preferred 11, causing the rest to physically and psychologically, get rusty. So, justifying the situation on account of one of the root causes of the problem in order to defend Redknapp at all costs and on all occasions is actually making it look like it is you who is the sheep, TBH.

You are right, we were looking at Cahill. Others on here have said that Levy was party to blame as well. But you are not accepting that Redknapp is partly to blame at all. For a start, I doubt if many would have been happy if Levy had paid well over the odds for Cahill, a player who has question marks against his name. Secondly, all very well and good, but wouldn't it have been sensible of the manager (like, THE MANAGER who has final say on these things), if Redknapp had stated emphatically that he wasn't letting Bassong go out on loan until we had Cahill secured, and if that failed to materialize he wuold just as soon keep Bassong as get in an injury prone old codger. For the record, Redknapp bigged Bassong up the high heavens when he first signed him, then strung him along, and then completely alienated him - accountability? For the record, you seem to want to lay all of the blame for failing to sign Cahill at Levy's door, but Redknapp has been very vocal in how he always wanted Nelsen - how to you know that, struggling with ever increasing wage demands and the competition of Cheslea who could meet any wage demands made, Levy didn't ask Redknapp how much he needed him, at which point Redknapp could have replied that he could get Nelsen for free and he's triffic.

Honestly, Paolo, I've joined you in supporting Redknapp against some of the less reasoned criticism and personal abusse he's received in the past, but he has seriously fecked up here, and, I repeat, it is you who is seeming like sheep for blindly supporting him no matter what he does.