new team for Wolves....
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Spurger King
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I'd imagine VDV and Modric crossing over and playing in a more free roaming manner.
Anyway, wasn't one of VDV's best performances last season against Arsenal in the 3-3 at the Lane, when he played on the right?
brett.spurs
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Right of a 4 is a no no. Giving him a free role to drift inside with two defensive midfielders covering and Walker supplying the width - yes. Sometimes imbalance is beneficial to a team rather than a straight line 4-4-2 winger system.
Lanh
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How's it impractical?
CrazyConrad
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But in a formation like that we dont play with winger so it really doesnt matter where we put Bale, Modric or VDV. Just look at Aguero, Nasri and Silva and City. Thats the formation I want to play and we have very good players to put into that formation with Parker and Sandro as the steel behind.
Lets compare ours to City with the same formation (excluding the back 4 and keeper)
---Toure - Barry---
Silva - Nasri - Aguero
-------Dzeko--------
vs.
--Parker - Sandro--
VDV - Modric - Bale
-------Ade--------
Surly we can play this way?
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Yep we should be able to. With those three playing behind Adebayor we may actually see a bit of movement rather than the rigid 4-4-2 that we've seen last season and so far this season. Pienaar and Kranjcar can also work in that formation and with a bit of coaching so could Lennon.
I don't think we'll see this team though. It's not something Harry has tried regularly before and not something I expect him to start doing now.
brett.spurs
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This is the English mentality though Conrad.
If you play on the right, you stick to the right and run down the line. If you play on the left you stick to the left and run down the line. We have three lines - defence, midfield and attack. Big man, little man. Fullbacks defend and defend only.
If you play on the right, you stick to the right and run down the line. If you play on the left you stick to the left and run down the line. We have three lines - defence, midfield and attack. Big man, little man. Fullbacks defend and defend only.
theShiznit
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You're all forgetting Falque...
Apparently he's been ripping it up in training.
obviously i don't know this, just throwing it out there for giggles
Apparently he's been ripping it up in training.
obviously i don't know this, just throwing it out there for giggles
Spurger King
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I thought you were serious there for a second :lol:
Falque was such a weird signing. I reckon him and Cellabos will be fighting it out for the award for most anonymous figure in Tottenham.
ajspurs
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Agreee with this. Good thing about what Harry may play is that the team still looks like it has the ability to do well, with Defoe and Adebayor.
Only thing that worries me with a 4-4-2 away to Wolves is that we played that there last season and I'm pretty sure that it was the game where we couldn't look any more open in the way we set out. I think on that day it was a midfield of Pienaar, Sandro, Modric and Jenas.
felmani26
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The 4-2-3-1 is definately the way forward for this club with the personnel we have at our disposal and as Conrad and Brett.spurs have rightly pointed out, this is the system we should be adopting henceforth.
The notion that VdV can't play on the right of a forward three is dispelled by virute of having not only Walker providing width on the right flank, but also having two holding players in Sandro and Parker who can quite easily slot in on the right with the other shifting across - a very simple and effective system.
Nobody will convince me that 442 is the way forward and that having two out and out wingers in Lennon and Bale will create space for others to operate in - it simply doesn't. All it creates is predictablity in our play and isolates the two central midfielders which, in our case especially, often leads to gaping chasms for the opposition to simply walz through with ease.
The notion that VdV can't play on the right of a forward three is dispelled by virute of having not only Walker providing width on the right flank, but also having two holding players in Sandro and Parker who can quite easily slot in on the right with the other shifting across - a very simple and effective system.
Nobody will convince me that 442 is the way forward and that having two out and out wingers in Lennon and Bale will create space for others to operate in - it simply doesn't. All it creates is predictablity in our play and isolates the two central midfielders which, in our case especially, often leads to gaping chasms for the opposition to simply walz through with ease.
CrazyConrad
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And we also have Hudd and Livermore as backup for Parker and Sandro.
And brett.spurs: I know that makes me sad. If you look at how the 3 in city swaps postition all the time and wanders basically how they want, surly we can manage as well? To bad we prolly need a non English manager for that :/
sloth
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I guess I meant you're quixotic, and I'd also hazard I'm not the first person to tell you that?
I always think when I see you posting on here that you're man who isn't bound by convention, you seem to make your own mind up about things and sod conventional wisdom. That team you chose reflects this imo.
sloth
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I would love to see us go down the 4-2-3-1 route. My biggest hope when we first were linked with Parker was that we'd play him in a two with Sandro.
I just don't think Harry will see it that way. He'll go for Parker or Sandro and a creative CM as part of a four. Parker hindering Sandro's progress was my biggest concern when we were linked with him.
I just don't think Harry will see it that way. He'll go for Parker or Sandro and a creative CM as part of a four. Parker hindering Sandro's progress was my biggest concern when we were linked with him.
Lanh
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Is it really that different from the team that propelled us from mid-table mediocrity to the top 5, (with most of the season spent in the top 4)?
Gomes - Robinson
Charlie - Stalteri
Dawson - Dawson
King/Bassong - Naybet/King
Benni - Lee
Lennon - Lennon
Parker - JJ
Thudd - Carrick
Modric - Davids
Adebayor - Mido
Roman - Keane
Arguably we now have higher quality players in most of those positions, with the possible exception of Carrick and Huddlestone. I really don't know why it wouldn't work, especially considering the options we have on the bench to play with now too in comparison to what we had in 2005/2006.
It's not about going it alone, it's about taking our strongest recent formation, putting it together with our strongest current defence, and then replacing the players who did so well in 2005/2006 with better players from our current squad.
Of course it wouldn't stop people whinging that we were playing a CM at LM like they did when Davids was in the role. :lol:
felmani26
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I sincerely hope not as if that is indeed the case Harry will most likely choose Parker as the 'holding midfielder' and thus stunt Sandro's growth. It will also not combat any of the tactical problems we have faced when the opposition have possession in having an isolated midfield duo and leading to an exposed defence.
If true hope this guy can challenge Lennon.
Lennon end product is rubbish needs to improve or he is going
end up like Jenas the same player he was at 18.
sloth
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But surely you could make the same comparison with any of the other teams posted in this thread. It's not that your team wouldn't be good, what people are questioning is whether it's the best we could out given the players we have available today.
My point was tha regardless of whether your team is better or worse than those others, as usual you've taken a unique view whereas the rest of us tend to basically agree but for a few fringe issues.
tRiKS
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Many times last season and season before and before that our 442 dominated games against sides that tried to outnumber us in the middle. 442 isn’t dead for us by any means. I personally think 4231/451 is the very best formation we can play with our options but 442 is definitely not dead, it will be used and it will win games well.
