News from a friend who supports Spurs living in Rome.

[idontgetit]

Some people in other threads/forums seem to be arguing that that Lazio should not be facing repercussions because they can not control what happens outside of their own stadium. I find this argument despicable. If 100 armed men, hiding their faces, arming themselves with weapons go out to viciously attack people and neither the police nor the club stick their hands up and say sorry, we take responsibility for this, then Rome is not safe for foreign football fans. If Italian police can not control football fans, and the clubs aren't going to take measures to control fans, then ALL Italian clubs should be banned from international football. See how long the Ultras stay violent. Cowards

 

[Bus-Conductor]

Some people in other threads/forums seem to be arguing that that Lazio should not be facing repercussions because they can not control what happens outside of their own stadium. I find this argument despicable. If 100 armed men, hiding their faces, arming themselves with weapons go out to viciously attack people and neither the police nor the club stick their hands up and say sorry, we take responsibility for this, then Rome is not safe for foreign football fans. If Italian police can not control football fans, and the clubs aren't going to take measures to control fans, then ALL Italian clubs should be banned from international football. See how long the Ultras stay violent. Cowards

I'm sorry but this is ill thought out bollocks. It is a police/social problem if people are going around a city the night before a game largeing it. What can a football club do to prevent this.

It s purely the police who should react and deal with this.

 

[3Dnata]

It seems likely that the stabbings were down to Roma fans in any event.

 

[Ironskullll]

I'm sorry but this is ill thought out bollocks. It is a police/social problem if people are going around a city the night before a game largeing it. What can a football club do to prevent this.

It s purely the police who should react and deal with this.

Not bollocks at all - the club, and by extension, the civil authorities have a duty of care towards whoever might attend a game held by them or under their jurisdiction. If the safety of players and fans cannot be ensured then the game should not go ahead. It doesn't matter what the reasons for that lack of safety are, whether it be weather conditions, plague, earthquake, thugs or whatever, if the conditions are unsafe the game should not take place.

 

[Yid121]

This is what the society of black lawyers do for you. Give you unwanted jewish press that leads to our fans getting stabbed. **** OFF BLACK LAWYERS YOU ****S

Oooo UEFA are now gonna give them a £5,000 fine... Even bigger ****s.

 

[Lilbaz]

Any word on how ashley is doing? The rest can look after itself aslong as he makes a recovery.

 

[steventhfc]

Any word on how ashley is doing? The rest can look after itself aslong as he makes a recovery.

Been all patched up and getting discharged tomorrow morning his mate says.

 

[Lilbaz]

Thanks steve, brilliant news.

Now lets just hope this never happens again.(i know how that sounds, but still).

 

[BorisTM]

Not bollocks at all - the club, and by extension, the civil authorities have a duty of care towards whoever might attend a game held by them or under their jurisdiction. If the safety of players and fans cannot be ensured then the game should not go ahead. It doesn't matter what the reasons for that lack of safety are, whether it be weather conditions, plague, earthquake, thugs or whatever, if the conditions are unsafe the game should not take place.

I'm sure they do take care within the premises of the club. They can't really control what happens outside of it. All they can do i request for increased police around the city but even then there still can be many areas when fans could get attacked, after all the police can't be everywhere. And finally those thugs don't have to be legally associated with the club at all, they could be Lazio fans who have been banned from attending matches for previous offenses or they don't even have to be Lazio fans at all.

 

[onthetwo]

this HAS to be a case for the Society of Black Lawyers? What?.....they dont deal with ACTUAL cases of racism? Sorry....my bad.

 

[DubSpurs]

I'm sorry but this is ill thought out bollocks. It is a police/social problem if people are going around a city the night before a game largeing it. What can a football club do to prevent this.

It s purely the police who should react and deal with this.

What can a football club do? Simples - increase funding to local, national police and private security firms to increase numbers and security before during and after match time. It's their event, that they are pocketing potentially pocketing hundreds of thousands of euro for, that has these people out on the street so of course, they need to take responsibility.

If it wasn't for this match last night it would have just been another sunny Wednesday night in Rome

 

[DubSpurs]

I'm sorry but this is ill thought out bollocks. It is a police/social problem if people are going around a city the night before a game largeing it. What can a football club do to prevent this.

It s purely the police who should react and deal with this.

And secondly this is just as much Lazio FC's fault as the Ultras. For years they have abetted these groups allowing them into games, allowing them to chant these vile chants, allowing them to play for the club (Di Canio) and never once taking the situation seriously

The club are 100% as guilty as the attackers Weds night as their actions only the years have only approved of despicable situation, and for that they should be treated the way all English clubs were treated in the late 80's. Told to get out and clean up

This also goes for Galatasary, Dinamo Kiev, Zenit and countless others in mainland Europe

 

[MightyModric]

expecting th black lawyer society tj come out and say something like "the fans are as bad as each other"

 

[idontgetit]

I'm sorry but this is ill thought out bollocks. It is a police/social problem if people are going around a city the night before a game largeing it. What can a football club do to prevent this.

It s purely the police who should react and deal with this.

Well the police haven't. If they can't deal with it and Lazio won't then then they should be banned or forced to play in a closed stadium.

 

[cozzo]

Well the police haven't. If they can't deal with it and Lazio won't then then they should be banned or forced to play in a closed stadium.

There's an argument that it had nothing directly to do with Lazio, but more to do with the local Far- Right fraternity in the area, who knew there would be Tottenham fans in their city. Not much Lazio can do about that, is there?

 

[tototoner]

Ive always wanted to go to a European away game.............

I no longer do.

I wouldn't let this put you off, Rome and Italy in general have it in for English fans

Away games in Germany or Holland are fantastic, hoping we draw Ajax if we both go through

 

[tiger666]

Two men have been charged with attempted murder

 

[brasil_spur]

I'm sorry but this is ill thought out bollocks. It is a police/social problem if people are going around a city the night before a game largeing it. What can a football club do to prevent this.

Quite a bit i would imagine.

BC i'm pretty sure that you are old enough to be aware of the hooliganism that occurred in England in the 70s and 80s and as such part of the way this was dealt with in England was the clubs getting directly involved. Not in one-off incidents but in helping to stamp this kind of behaviour out of their club and out of their fans.

When the consequences of hooliganism affects the club itself and its revenue streams you can be damn sure that the club will get more actively involved.

If there is a zero tolerancy of this behaviour from the club then these violent 'fans' will realise that they will have to find their fights elsewhere rather than under the guise of being football hooligans.

I'm not saying the club is all to blame, but in order for any effective policy to work in need involvement from the club at the top down to the fans and police at the bottom.

 

[Real_madyidd]

And secondly this is just as much Lazio FC's fault as the Ultras. For years they have abetted these groups allowing them into games, allowing them to chant these vile chants, allowing them to play for the club (Di Canio) and never once taking the situation seriously

The club are 100% as guilty as the attackers Weds night as their actions only the years have only approved of despicable situation, and for that they should be treated the way all English clubs were treated in the late 80's. Told to get out and clean up

This also goes for Galatasary, Dinamo Kiev, Zenit and countless others in mainland Europe

But the perperators were Roma fans...

 

[brasil_spur]

There's an argument that it had nothing directly to do with Lazio, but more to do with the local Far- Right fraternity in the area, who knew there would be Tottenham fans in their city. Not much Lazio can do about that, is there?

That argument is at least partly bollocks though. I don't doubt it was far-right minded individuals involved mostly, but they were using the guise of football hooligans and attacking football fans that were there to watch a game against a local team.

Like it or not Lazio football club and UEFA should both be involved in this.

I'll give another example:

Brazil are hosting the World Cup and then the Olympics during the next 4 years.

As you all know there is a lot of violence in the inner City areas of Brazil, particularly in Rio and Sao Paulo. Now say we see this same type of thing kick off in Rio against some English fans, except the people involved aren't far-right ultras but instead impoverished people caught up in a world of crime and drug dealing.

Now is this the fault of the Footballing authority or the Olympic committee - of course not, but they should be held partly responsible, and rightly so, for not ensuring that their city is safe for visiting sporting fans.