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Next England Manager

Who do you want as the next England manager?

  • Southgate

    Votes: 3 0.8%
  • Pellegrini

    Votes: 6 1.7%
  • Ranieri

    Votes: 11 3.0%
  • Hoddle

    Votes: 108 29.8%
  • Hiddink

    Votes: 19 5.2%
  • G.Neville

    Votes: 4 1.1%
  • Redknapp

    Votes: 35 9.7%
  • Pardew

    Votes: 3 0.8%
  • Big Sam

    Votes: 35 9.7%
  • E.Howe

    Votes: 50 13.8%
  • Sherwood

    Votes: 24 6.6%
  • Shearer

    Votes: 4 1.1%
  • Warburton

    Votes: 8 2.2%
  • Benitez

    Votes: 14 3.9%
  • Blanc

    Votes: 9 2.5%
  • Other

    Votes: 29 8.0%

  • Total voters
    362

Pellshek

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Dec 30, 2015
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Wenger is a good shout for all involved:

> Allows him to depart Arsenal with a purpose rather than just fizzling out
> Allows Arsenal to move on without the messiness of a sacking, or facing up to Wenger being 66.
> The FA gets a guy who prefers to work with the players he has than buy in, and who's tactically in the top rank of potential candidates

If I were any of the three parties, the appointment would appeal to me.
 

Colonel_Klinck

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May 19, 2004
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As I said earlier in the thread Wenger is a win win. England play football the way it should be played. Arsenal hopefully go the same way ManU did when Fergie left. I hope the FA go all out to get him at the end of the season.
 

WorcesterTHFC

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May 4, 2016
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As I said earlier in the thread Wenger is a win win. England play football the way it should be played. Arsenal hopefully go the same way ManU did when Fergie left. I hope the FA go all out to get him at the end of the season.
I like your thinking, but I suspect his current job will be Wenger's last coaching/managerial gig. I wouldn't be surprised if he takes a consultancy-type role at the Emirates, and he'll have a similar stature/presence at Woolwich Wanderers to the one Alex Ferguson and Bobby Charlton have at United.
 

WorcesterTHFC

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May 4, 2016
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Wenger is a good shout for all involved:

> Allows him to depart Arsenal with a purpose rather than just fizzling out
> Allows Arsenal to move on without the messiness of a sacking, or facing up to Wenger being 66.
> The FA gets a guy who prefers to work with the players he has than buy in, and who's tactically in the top rank of potential candidates

If I were any of the three parties, the appointment would appeal to me.
His age might count against him (he turns 67 in just under a month's time). One thing that's definitely in his favour is the fact that he's spent the last 20 years working with high-profile internationals and others who are close to that level, whereas Hodgson and Allardyce have very little experience of working with such players
 

DogsOfWar

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Jan 12, 2005
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I think Allardyce's one-game reign can qualify as 'stopgap', don't you?

Even I didn't think the stopgap was going to be quite that short!
The FA did act much quicker than they usually do, especially considering there wasn't much of an outcry from the non-media, which made me think they saw an ideal opportunity to hasten his departure.

I don't think they were in a position to enter a qualifying period without a permanent manager so had to act to appoint someone but when they saw a chance to see out the short qualifying period to next summer with a temporary one couldn't wait to take it.
 

WorcesterTHFC

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May 4, 2016
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Even I didn't think the stopgap was going to be quite that short!
The FA did act much quicker than they usually do, especially considering there wasn't much of an outcry from the non-media, which made me think they saw an ideal opportunity to hasten his departure.

I don't think they were in a position to enter a qualifying period without a permanent manager so had to act to appoint someone but when they saw a chance to see out the short qualifying period to next summer with a temporary one couldn't wait to take it.
'Buyer's remorse' after hiring Allardyce? If that's the case, they shouldn't have hired him in the first place, although they weren't exactly spoilt for choice. The FA was lucky to be able to get rid so quickly. Unfortunately, they'll probably do just as poor a job with choosing Allardyce's successor.
 

Shanks

Kinda not anymore....
May 11, 2005
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Tbh Wenger is the only outstanding candidate, regardless of age.

Can't see him leaving Arsenal to become England manager, unless, they can keep the spot open until next year.
 

Riandor

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May 26, 2004
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Tbh Wenger is the only outstanding candidate, regardless of age.

Can't see him leaving Arsenal to become England manager, unless, they can keep the spot open until next year.
Which I think is what will happen at this juncture...
If it isn't Wenger, then I would be quite surprised at this point. Obviously I have stated I would like Hoddle back, but in a lot of ways Arsene makes more sense.

I can see Howe being earmarked for the future.
 
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Shanks

Kinda not anymore....
May 11, 2005
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TBH, anyone young & english is being earmarked, because there are so few of them.

It has to be wenger to take over next summer, maybe consult Southgate in the meantime.

I'd take that, and would actually be a tad excited to see what he could do.
 

Shanks

Kinda not anymore....
May 11, 2005
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Failing that, I'd go for someone like Klinnsman, I appreciate not everyones cup of tea, and not the greatest out there, but he was pivotal in leading the Germans through a similiar period of change, before Lowe took over.

He's got the states team being much more consistent too.
 

teok

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Aug 11, 2011
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Tbh Wenger is the only outstanding candidate, regardless of age.

Can't see him leaving Arsenal to become England manager, unless, they can keep the spot open until next year.


Best case scenario is southgate holds the fort until he is available.
 

Riandor

COB Founder
May 26, 2004
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Failing that, I'd go for someone like Klinnsman, I appreciate not everyones cup of tea, and not the greatest out there, but he was pivotal in leading the Germans through a similiar period of change, before Lowe took over.

He's got the states team being much more consistent too.
Not that popular over here in Germany though, not with what he did for Germany or even more so Bayern. His approach was seen as a little too holistic for starters.
 

Shanks

Kinda not anymore....
May 11, 2005
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Not that popular over here in Germany though, not with what he did for Germany or even more so Bayern. His approach was seen as a little too holistic for starters.
Interesting to hear that.

I'm not sure under the current issues, there are many english candidates - Howe/Southgate... can we really expecct Pardew to be as clean as made out, not even considering the fact he's shit.
 

nightgoat

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Sep 12, 2005
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England's biggest problem has been the inability to play good, effective football in tournaments where they come up against better teams than the minnows who are easily beaten in qualifying. It's why the appointment of Allardyce in the first place jarred so much with their new 'England DNA' blueprint of aspiring to play an attractive style of football.

In that sense, taking the overwhelming desire to appoint an English manager, Eddie Howe is the only serious candidate. The one thing cited against him is his lack of experience, but then Hodgson and Capello had it in spades and both failed miserably. Give Howe the job, and if necessary someone like Hoddle as assistant or adviser, tell him he's got the job for the next three tournaments and let him build something with the talented bunch of young players emerging. If that means writing off the next World Cup as a development period, fine. It's not as if we wouldn't have been gash under Fat Sam anyway.
 

ghjk_91

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Jan 27, 2011
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SSN: England want to speak to Ralf Rangnick about the job. Former Schalke manager. He was interviewed when Hodgson left.

That would be pretty left field.
 
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