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[djhotspur]

We’ll be signing players btw

We won’t be signing players for the rest of the season….

 

[glacierSpurs]

Levy strikes again, appoint Poch and he will cling on for another couple of years.

The appointment of Poch doesn't bode well for me for any external investment or buy-out soon, or at all...

 

[djhotspur]

Maybe, although I'd say Porro, Romero, Udogie, Skipp, Sarr, Bentancur, Bissouma, Hojbjerg, Kulusevski, Richarlison, Kane and Son is a much better starting place than what he started out with last time.

Not a single player you just named bar maybe bentacur gets into poch prime team

 

[danielneeds]

Not a single player you just named bar maybe bentacur gets into poch prime team

But they they get into Sherwood’s team from 2014? Because that was the starting point which Poch built from.

 

[Spurzinho]

Levy strikes again, appoint Poch and he will cling on for another couple of years.

Cling on? My man, Levy OWNS the club. There's no clinging about it. Unless you've got upwards of £5b or you know someone who does who is willing to part with it then I suggest you get used to Mr. Levy because he's going to be here until someone does come along with that kind of wedge and then, and only then will he saunter off into the sunset. That's not a defence of Levy or his performance as chairman, that's just stating the bare facts of the situation.

 

[Yiddo100]

We won’t be signing players for the rest of the season….

I can’t see him joining soon tbh

 

[biscuit]

I'm all ears if you have a better suggestion.

How about we wait for the outcome of the director of actual FOOTBALL’s appeal, then either back the guy to plan for succession (as it’s part of his job) or we replace him, and let the new incumbent choose?
Whether anyone thinks the return of Poch is a good idea or not is up to them. What we DO know is that he is renowned for not wanting to work under a DOF, and plays a different set-up to that employed by the previous two picks.
We can also guess at the reason why he’s being brought back. a) he wants the job above almost any other, b) he’s ‘compensation free’, c) he’ll likely promise to try to get a tune out of Ndombele, Lo Celso, and Reguillon, and d) many fans will lap it up, letting Levy off the hook AGAIN!

 

[cider spurs]

I'm undecided whom i would want. But, one thing is for certain, i'd want a manager who can set us up to actually look like we've every chance of winning a match through some decent attack, high energy football.

I want a 'must win' manager as opposed to the 'mustn't lose' types.

Is that weird...dunno, but i'm tired of this defensive style brand of football.

Not saying let's be all out attack, but maybe someone who will instruct, and coach us to be on the front foot a little more.

 

[Spurzinho]

If it’s interim like it has been suggested, then Tuchel. Continue the system with a guy who knows how to play it, is a proven winner and can come in somewhere mid season.
If not, then go for a project manager, someone on the up like an Amorin, someone who can bring fresh ideas and give us a chance to win something.
Not bring in a guy who lost the title to Leicester and didn’t win anything with our best team in 30 years.

I'm not feeling Tuchel at all. Really boring, defensive football and known for falling out with everyone. Amorim? Meh. Being Portuguese he probably speaks good English. I don't know if I see the magic there though. He's in a very, very uncompetitive league so its hard to judge how good he is. Yes they beat us but that's no select club is it?

Why am I trolling? I do appreciate the job he did but I also appreciate he didn’t win anything when he should have. I want a manager to take us to the next level so we can finally win something.
I loved poch for a long time but I had my frustrations with him and you can call it a fluke but it’s simple that he didn’t win the league… he lost home and away to that Leicester team.
Explsin to me how poch is going to elevate us to the next level with a worse side.
I would put every penny I had on conte winning the league with that spurs team whrn Leicester won it.

Win anything when he should have? Were you there? He nearly won us the league without spending anything. He got us to the Champions League final without spending anything. Conte can't even get us into the top 4 after spending hundreds of millions of pounds. And I'm not digging out Conte here, I'm explaining the achievement that was Poch's tenure. You call it a worse side but there's a lot of fresh, untapped talent here. Poch got the maximum he could get out of the squad he had but it fell to pieces from overuse. This would be a chance to try again with a fresh squad that is desperately looking for leadership. He's maybe done some growing up, Levy has hopefully learned to appreciate what you've got and the grass isn't greener. I'm not saying Poch should automatically get the job. I'm not his agent. I'm just saying that no one, right now, looks like the right guy. No one. We know what Poch can do with a squad of young players. We have a squad of young players.

 

[Trotter]

Unlikely. Poch would have been due his full compensation over the life of the contract.

That would have been mitigated by his PSG contract so Spurs have not had to pay out the entire deal — but Spurs would have had to payout the contract value, less what he got from PSG.

You have so far, come up with an incorrect statement, told someone that was correct they were wrong and now basically argued and disagreed with yourself in the above post.

Poch salary was greater at PSG than at Tottenham. The minute he was under their employment we would be able to stop paying him as he was earning greater than the commitment we made to him, so from that point on suffered no losses.

 

[Mackan110]

I hope we wont go for poch. He did amazing things with us but the last 18 months was horrendious and we also know he wont play the new signings the fist 6-12 months because they had to "adopt" to the league. It also means when we get everyone back from loan we will see Winks start every game in the midfield...

Now i havent watched Burnley but from what i have heard is that they play amazing football so why not go for Vincent Kompany? He know what it takes to win trophys as a player and seems to have a fun way of playing.

 

[Snarfalicious]

I wanted to see us blow everything up (for the most part) and start over. Crack a few eggs to make an omelette. Poch feels like a comfort zone hire.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

Why am I trolling? I do appreciate the job he did but I also appreciate he didn’t win anything when he should have. I want a manager to take us to the next level so we can finally win something.
I loved poch for a long time but I had my frustrations with him and you can call it a fluke but it’s simple that he didn’t win the league… he lost home and away to that Leicester team.
Explsin to me how poch is going to elevate us to the next level with a worse side.
I would put every penny I had on conte winning the league with that spurs team whrn Leicester won it.

Look at the journey he took us on when inheriting a far worse squad than we have now to answer your Q there mate.

Tbh I really don’t know if we’ll win anything this year, next year or in the next 5 years but what I do know is that I absolutely loved it when Poch was our manager for the majority of the time he was with us and he did a phenomenal job.

Will he win something with us if he took over this summer and stayed for say 2-3 years? Who knows… Would there be a chance that he could win something with us..? Yes very much so as he got us very close before and he’d have a better budget to work with this time. Would it likely be a far more positive and enjoyable atmosphere and environment if Poch became our manager compared to under Jose, Nuno and Conte?… absolutely unequivocally YES and for me that combination of things is something I’d very much be happy with.

You seem to be set on us winning something, ok fine if you think Poch wouldn’t get us over the line then who would you prefer because ‘serial winner’ quick fix managers done work for us but if we went for Poch or Kompany or Gallardo or any other more ‘project manager’ then there is no guarantee any of them would be successful and win with us just like there wouldn’t be a guarantee of a trophy if we went for yet another ‘winner’ in Tuchel so why not gamble on Poch again who knows the club and got us so close previously?

 

[roy@SC]

I will advise for all the supporters of Poch, which I was until his last 18 months. I would support him if he comes. But feel it will end in disaster. Please heed my warning. But some won’t.

Interested as to why you think poch would end in disaster. We would have gone through 2 serial winners in Conte & Jose that got us nowhere. Why would poch be more likely than any other to end in disaster? The chance now, imo, based on previous experience is that under the current board - no one could succeed.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

I hope we wont go for poch. He did amazing things with us but the last 18 months was horrendious and we also know he wont play the new signings the fist 6-12 months because they had to "adopt" to the league. It also means when we get everyone back from loan we will see Winks start every game in the midfield...

Now i havent watched Burnley but from what i have heard is that they play amazing football so why not go for Vincent Kompany? He know what it takes to win trophys as a player and seems to have a fun way of playing.

Kompany would be well worth a gamble I think, love the way he has Burnley playing.

He could get Yaya in as his n.o2.

 

[RuskyM]

If it’s interim like it has been suggested, then Tuchel. Continue the system with a guy who knows how to play it, is a proven winner and can come in somewhere mid season.

Gone well the last few times.

 

[parj]

Not a single player you just named bar maybe bentacur gets into poch prime team

Remember, he said better than what Poch started out with, not what he moulded them into. It is in fact a much better team than he inherited

 

[Rout-Ledge]

I hope we wont go for poch. He did amazing things with us but the last 18 months was horrendious and we also know he wont play the new signings the fist 6-12 months because they had to "adopt" to the league. It also means when we get everyone back from loan we will see Winks start every game in the midfield...

Now i havent watched Burnley but from what i have heard is that they play amazing football so why not go for Vincent Kompany? He know what it takes to win trophys as a player and seems to have a fun way of playing.

The last 18 months was not ‘horrendous’. That 18 month period you’re referring to included a top four finish and a CL final (!).

2019 was clearly a struggle, despite reaching the CL final. He was clearly burnt out by the end. Badly. He obviously needed a break. But - crucially - he’d been doing a great job for us for many years before that last bad patch (under difficult circumstances with the stadium move). It’s unfair to define him by that bad patch at the end - it’s happening to Klopp now but I don’t think anyone would suggest he’s a shit manager because of it.

 

[allatsea]

I will advise for all the supporters of Poch, which I was until his last 18 months. I would support him if he comes. But feel it will end in disaster. Please heed my warning. But some won’t.

Well said!
Bringing Poch back will end in tears just as it did the first time.

 

[Bluto Blutarsky]

You have so far, come up with an incorrect statement, told someone that was correct they were wrong and now basically argued and disagreed with yourself in the above post.

Poch salary was greater at PSG than at Tottenham. The minute he was under their employment we would be able to stop paying him as he was earning greater than the commitment we made to him, so from that point on suffered no losses.

Yeah - I am not familiar with English contract law - but I doubt it differs significantly from US contract law.

When Poch signed the contract with Spurs - he was entitled to ~£43M over 5 years. Unless Poch breached the contract - which he did not - Spurs are on the hook for ~£43M over 5 years.

Now, as I noted above, the damages are mitigated by however much he earned at PSG - but the Spurs contract is not "ripped up" when he signed for PSG. Poch will get his £43M from some combination of Spurs and PSG...