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[hero]

My general concern is that whoever we bring in to have us play ”on the front foot” (intense pressing, attacking and possession-based footie etc) will likely struggle to do so with our current squad. Primarily because it is severly lacking in the three basic elements below, which IMO are essential for such tactics. So whereas Conte ball certainly has not been very entertaining (and not something I want to see more of), I can still understand his rationale for defending low considering the shortcomings of our squad.

• Pressing from the front - Kane and Son (for all their qualities) no longer have the legs to do that. Brighton (like most teams before them) played through our press with ease.
• Playing out from the back/press resistance - Basically all opponents have figured out that the risk/reward of pressing us high is very favorable, which often sees us pinned back in our own half. And with the exception of Porro/Romero (maybe Lenglet at a stretch), the rest of our defenders do not have the basic technique/vision to play out from the back. To improve this we also need to upgrade our ballplaying qualities in CM (as pretty much only Bents is at all press resistant).
• Recovery pace in defence - our current lot simply do not have it, and without it we will be murdered on the counter if we still try to play a high line defence.

Recovery pace in defence. ManU against Everton showed how it ends.

 

[RJR1949]

I’m not getting at anything FFS. Why does everything have to be cantankerous? I was asking a bloody question: Is Poch on the list? I thought he wasn’t. Therefore not even being considered. Not getting at anything, outside of a binary question. No ulterior motive. No trying to prove a point. Just a chuffing question. Fuck me.

Thanks for the offer but no thanks.

 

[TPdYID]

My general concern is that whoever we bring in to have us play ”on the front foot” (intense pressing, attacking and possession-based footie etc) will likely struggle to do so with our current squad. Primarily because it is severly lacking in the three basic elements below, which IMO are essential for such tactics. So whereas Conte ball certainly has not been very entertaining (and not something I want to see more of), I can still understand his rationale for defending low considering the shortcomings of our squad.

• Pressing from the front - Kane and Son (for all their qualities) no longer have the legs to do that. Brighton (like most teams before them) played through our press with ease.
• Playing out from the back/press resistance - Basically all opponents have figured out that the risk/reward of pressing us high is very favorable, which often sees us pinned back in our own half. And with the exception of Porro/Romero (maybe Lenglet at a stretch), the rest of our defenders do not have the basic technique/vision to play out from the back. To improve this we also need to upgrade our ballplaying qualities in CM (as pretty much only Bents is at all press resistant).
• Recovery pace in defence - our current lot simply do not have it, and without it we will be murdered on the counter if we still try to play a high line defence.

Recovery pace is important. But none more so then positioning.

EG. Davinson Sanchez has recovery pace.

 

[Hotspur88]

Poch isn't the right man to turn to. I love the man, he gave me the best years as a Spurs fan thus far, but it isn't time for him to return.

We need something fresh and I honestly believe a Nagelsmann/Slot/Ange are our best options.

Who knows what we will do, but this shit needs sorting out sooner rather than later.

 

[Wheeler Dealer]

I don’t believe any manager alive can make the current squad of players competitive. With the odd exception, this squad is dire and lacks technical and creative individuals. We’ve grossly over paid for bang average players during the last 4 years, which will take years to recover from.

Whoever comes in, isn’t going to be some miracle worker, so we’ll have to lower expectations whilst we rebuild. We have to try and be patient, which is near impossible in today’s football.

We are club that is fast losing its identity and I’m not certain that we have the plan or execution to recover..

 

[nav007_2000]

Poch isn't the right man to turn to. I love the man, he gave me the best years as a Spurs fan thus far, but it isn't time for him to return.

We need something fresh and I honestly believe a Nagelsmann/Slot/Ange are our best options.

Who knows what we will do, but this shit needs sorting out sooner rather than later.

Everyone keeps saying it’s not the right time. But when is the right time?
We’ve gone for Jose, Nuno and now Conte who all play boring defensive football.

Fans want the entertaining football back. There is only one person who knows the club inside out and loves the club. It’s Poch.

 

[TPdYID]

There is only one person who knows the club inside out and loves the club. It’s Poch Redknapp.

You can begin to see how ridiculous your final paragraph looks when replacing a name for a name.

No doubt, both men ‘love’ the club. Neither are correct appointments based on “loves the club” alone.

From a business model, ‘love’ isn’t going to improve results on the pitch in the long run.

Let’s step away from sentiment and appoint based on the credentials needed for a complete overhaul & rebuild.

 

[Spursmatty87]

My general concern is that whoever we bring in to have us play ”on the front foot” (intense pressing, attacking and possession-based footie etc) will likely struggle to do so with our current squad. Primarily because it is severly lacking in the three basic elements below, which IMO are essential for such tactics. So whereas Conte ball certainly has not been very entertaining (and not something I want to see more of), I can still understand his rationale for defending low considering the shortcomings of our squad.

• Pressing from the front - Kane and Son (for all their qualities) no longer have the legs to do that. Brighton (like most teams before them) played through our press with ease.
• Playing out from the back/press resistance - Basically all opponents have figured out that the risk/reward of pressing us high is very favorable, which often sees us pinned back in our own half. And with the exception of Porro/Romero (maybe Lenglet at a stretch), the rest of our defenders do not have the basic technique/vision to play out from the back. To improve this we also need to upgrade our ballplaying qualities in CM (as pretty much only Bents is at all press resistant).
• Recovery pace in defence - our current lot simply do not have it, and without it we will be murdered on the counter if we still try to play a high line defence.

When players can’t do high press or low block maybe it’s time to smell the coffee and realise the players aren’t good enough.

 

[Gassin's finest]

I don’t believe any manager alive can make the current squad of players competitive. With the odd exception, this squad is dire and lacks technical and creative individuals. We’ve grossly over paid for bang average players during the last 4 years, which will take years to recover from.

Whoever comes in, isn’t going to be some miracle worker, so we’ll have to lower expectations whilst we rebuild. We have to try and be patient, which is near impossible in today’s football.

We are club that is fast losing its identity and I’m not certain that we have the plan or execution to recover..

You know what, I'm not that fussed about competitive. I'm just interested in enjoying going to watch football again.

Whether it's Hoddle waltzing past Oxford, Ronny Rocket hitting 4 against Southampton, Nielsen throwing himself to win against Leicester, Bale stealing Inter Milan's taxi, or Poch in tears in Amsterdam... There has always been something magic about supporting this club.

There's no magic right now. I want that back.

 

[cliff jones]

Everyone keeps saying it’s not the right time. But when is the right time?
We’ve gone for Jose, Nuno and now Conte who all play boring defensive football.

Fans want the entertaining football back. There is only one person who knows the club inside out and loves the club. It’s Poch.

Never.

We need to look forward not back.

A completely fresh broom is needed

 

[Cochise]

One major thing is that with little to no information leaking out of the club, journalists are joining the dots up to say there is no plan. Fans also see no immediate announcement and think the same.

If Slot is already lined up but it's massively hush hush so to not disrupt Feyenoord then we won't hear anything.

 

[HedgieSpur]

I’ve seen the Chris cowling video. That is not representative of how it was is the middle of the park lane.

At best, I’d say 20% would tolerate Poch return.l (and that’s Generous as around me, I’d say it was less than 1 in 20 that joined in)

I was in 252 and Id say it was brief but loud...similar to the Levy Out chants, also brief but loud

 

[Tucker]

• Pressing from the front - Kane and Son (for all their qualities) no longer have the legs to do that. Brighton (like most teams before them) played through our press with ease.

I keep seeing people saying this as if it’s fact. It’s not. We don’t see Kane and Son pressing because they’re not being asked to. We’ve had a succession of managers that don’t play a high press. That doesn’t mean they can’t or won’t do it.

People talk about Kane and Son as if they’re on their last legs and ready for the glue factory when they’re both very much players in their prime.

There’s a reason the likes of Pep and ETH want Kane to join their intense high pressing teams.

 

[HedgieSpur]

Just, for a second, imagine we DO appoint Poch now. And he gets us top 4 playing a more free flowing, possesion based football. Imagine what that would do for the state of this club.
I can't imagine a bigger lift.

Would it be any less meaningful with the same outcome with Slot, Gallardo, Enrique, Nagelsmann et al? What's the difference?

 

[neogenisis]

Everyone keeps saying it’s not the right time. But when is the right time?
We’ve gone for Jose, Nuno and now Conte who all play boring defensive football.

Fans want the entertaining football back. There is only one person who knows the club inside out and loves the club. It’s Poch.

I said this a little while ago, and I am still waiting for an answer. He could fail, or he could succeed, bit like appointing ANY manager really.

 

[sandros kung fu kick]

Some people

 

[TPdYID]

Would it be any less meaningful with the same outcome with Slot, Gallardo, Enrique, Nagelsmann et al? What's the difference?

Exactly. Top 4 with any manager would be a lift. The manager doesn’t have to be Poch to inject a bit of optimism back into the club.

 

[HedgieSpur]

It was more than a pocket of fans, you could hear it clearly on the TV, sounded like most of the stadium (at one point) were all singing it

I can only say what I heard in the stadium and it was literally a pocket of fans. Maybe comes across a lot different on TV but from where I was in Park Lane it was a pocket of fans.

 

[allatsea]

I don’t believe any manager alive can make the current squad of players competitive. With the odd exception, this squad is dire and lacks technical and creative individuals. We’ve grossly over paid for bang average players during the last 4 years, which will take years to recover from.

Whoever comes in, isn’t going to be some miracle worker, so we’ll have to lower expectations whilst we rebuild. We have to try and be patient, which is near impossible in today’s football.

We are club that is fast losing its identity and I’m not certain that we have the plan or execution to recover..

If you are right about our squad what does that say about the 15 squads below us in the PL ?

 

[A Bit Much]

I said this a little while ago, and I am still waiting for an answer. He could fail, or he could succeed, bit like appointing ANY manager really.

There are far too much intricacies and details involved in coaching a successful football team to reduce it to 'he can't be successful because he managed here a few years ago'.

Whether poch would be successful would be based on recruitment, his tactics, how he adapts to the current side, players on the market and available, blind luck etc etc.