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[sidford]

From Athletics most recent piece on our shit show.

This is why I don't want Mason to get the gig full time. He will be a yes man for Levy.

Ryan Mason defends Tottenham chairman Daniel Levy

Tottenham Hotspur interim head coach Ryan Mason has defended club chairman Daniel Levy by insisting he has been let down by other people. Spurs have had another disappointing season having failed to finish inside the top four or win a trophy. Levy, who took control of the club in 2001, has come...

theathletic.com

""Speaking ahead of Tottenham’s final game of the season, Mason said: “It hurts him, it hurts everyone committed to this club and everyone who really cares and wants this club to be successful.

“One thing I will say is he’s spent money, he’s tried and I just think ultimately he has probably been let down by other people but that’s football. That happens and hopefully we can get things right quickly, make good decisions and it can turnaround.”

 

[sandros kung fu kick]

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But seriously it's responses like that which annoy me most. Ange isn't Scottish, and using fat as an insult.. how old are you?

Well, I never thought I’d see Grado in this thread..

 

[spursfan77]

When I asked about why, quite rightly pointed out he’s done well everywhere really he’s been at he’s overachieved in a sense or been shot in the foot.

Estoril he got them way over achieving

Sporting done well got them their first trophy I think in a long while then got sacked for refusing to wear the club suit as the club had secretly gone about getting Jorge Jesus in

Olympiakos done really well, but didn’t enjoy it there and left

Hull got them playing amazingly well unlucky to go down however wasn’t a big fan of the rugby ground share stopping his team playing football.

Watford - who lasts long there? Well I think he’s lasted the longest of the bunch in recent years, was doing very well then Everton tapped him up and they fell off a wagon.

Everton got them to 8th despite the club being a clusterfuck Everton fans will openly say sacking him was a mistake

Fulham well yeh they are doing very well, and at each and every one of these clubs he’s got them playing amazing attacking football he’s also got a good eye for a player, he can also make his tactics suit a players limitations.

He’s got premier league experience he’s used to London now, won’t take any time to bed in and get the best out of squad and can play a variety of ways and formations to suit certain player.

I can see where his shout was coming from that’s before you find out that he’s apparently a terrific guy, super good coach and tactically immense. He’s United Fulham and turned them from a yo yo club into a threat.

I didn’t know this but he was looked at for both the arsenal job before arteta and emery as well as the Chelsea job before potter and after.

I went to Fulham Brighton early on in the season when they beat them two nil and one thing I would say is that there is a huge buy in from the crowd to the team. He’s got everyone behind the side and on that day they looked immensely organised, hard to play against and most importantly, they looked like they had a plan. Only one game granted, but I was impressed with how they played.

I would be intrigued by him for sure and he would be well ahead of other candidates for me despite having some doubts about him. He’s good with the press and you can see the players buy into his ideas. An interesting one for sure but it doesn’t feel like we are looking at him, albeit I’ve given up listening to the press and who they suggest it might be.

 

[Stamford]

I'm going to disagree ever so slightly with you.... we shouldn't be backing the manager with the player he wants. We need a DOF to shape the squad and the manager to coach/ train them...

Our bloated ineffective squad is because we backed the manager for a specific player....

Poch - Lo Celso, Ndombele,
Mourinho- Rodon
Conte - Perisic
These 4 come to mind.... let's get the structures right and identify the talent we want to acquire then tweak ever so slightly based on the squad needs.... not based solely on a managers whims. Managers come and go.

No one, not a single soul and definitely not Jose asked for Rodon. Be for real.

 

[Tottenham_God]

No one, not a single soul and definitely not Jose asked for Rodon. Be for real.

You reckon Levy has a hard on for Welsh players ?

 

[joelstinton14]

Potter - A dwindling star currently, though made a good name at Brighton, my concern is his Brighton team were ultra safe, scored very little, can we stomach a more over cautious, low scoring season? RDZ has more than doubled their goal stats without losing out at the other end.

That’s a little unfair on Potter. The running gag with his Brighton sides were that if they had Harry Kane they’d be top of the league. They had ridiculously high XG stats. De Zebri has done a wonderful job at Brighton, and there are certainly arguments to be had as whether he has taken them up a level, but Potter (and the structure at Brighton) laid the foundation blocks for him to do so. The revisionism of Potter career seems a little unfair and excessive.

His sides going forward don’t worry me, it’s more the stuff he was doing in defence at the end of his Chelsea stint that does.

 

[jbstarr14]

You reckon Levy has a hard on for Welsh players ?

Hope so…

*starts cleaning boots*

 

[Marty]

That’s a little unfair on Potter. The running gag with his Brighton sides were that if they had Harry Kane they’d be top of the league. They had ridiculously high XG stats. De Zebri has done a wonderful job at Brighton, and there are certainly arguments to be had as whether he has taken them up a level, but Potter (and the structure at Brighton) laid the foundation blocks for him to do so. The revisionism of Potter career seems a little unfair and excessive.

His sides going forward don’t worry me, it’s more the stuff he was doing in defence at the end of his Chelsea stint that does.

I don't want to judge Potter on that Chelsea basket case. It was a completely unmanageable situation and Lampard has shown how a bad manager could make them a lot worse very quickly.

Not that our situation feels much more manageable atm, but for very different reasons.

 

[Dakes]

journos like Ali Gold and Dan KP coming out with the line “club felt it was difficult to improve what we have.”

Thanks for that terrible reminder. To me it indicates two things:

1. Extreme arrogance
2. Extreme miserliness

Sickening on both counts. This has been the character of the current top management of the club throughout its tenure.

 

[St José Dominguez]

That’s a little unfair on Potter. The running gag with his Brighton sides were that if they had Harry Kane they’d be top of the league. They had ridiculously high XG stats. De Zebri has done a wonderful job at Brighton, and there are certainly arguments to be had as whether he has taken them up a level, but Potter (and the structure at Brighton) laid the foundation blocks for him to do so. The revisionism of Potter career seems a little unfair and excessive.

His sides going forward don’t worry me, it’s more the stuff he was doing in defence at the end of his Chelsea stint that does.

It’s not unfair it’s completely false. As you said debate after debate between the xGists vs the use ya eyesists was all about the huge amount of goal scoring opportunities Brighton were creating but not taking.
For anyone who wanted to be proven right it’s a massive shame he went to a club who didn’t really have a striker and he was being forced to play with false 9s.
Until that happens Potter is still a question mark for me, he could be proven a brilliant manager once he has a side with a good striker or he could be proven as someone who’s sides just create a lot of half chances.

 

[dontcallme]

I don't want to judge Potter on that Chelsea basket case. It was a completely unmanageable situation and Lampard has shown how a bad manager could make them a lot worse very quickly.

Not that our situation feels much more manageable atm, but for very different reasons.

The only thing I judge Potter for is taking the job in the first place.

He was clearly the wrong fit and their board are mental. He should have seen that.

 

[sandros kung fu kick]

I’m not sure if it’s been posted yet but ossie was asked why poch is going to Chelsea at a dinner / q&a. And he confirmed that poch was waiting for the phone call but it never came.

nothing we don’t already know but thought it was worth sharing. Just makes levy look more amateurish in my opinion

 

[piedpiper]

That's better.
See you can use his name!

Well I didn't want another telling off ...

But I broke it down to .... Post-e-cog-lu

 

[Marty]

The only thing I judge Potter for is taking the job in the first place.

He was clearly the wrong fit and their board are mental. He should have seen that.

100% agree

 

[Trix]

I don't want to judge Potter on that Chelsea basket case. It was a completely unmanageable situation and Lampard has shown how a bad manager could make them a lot worse very quickly.

Not that our situation feels much more manageable atm, but for very different reasons.

Are they very different reasons? And who knows how damaged Potter is from his Chelsea experience same for Rodgers. Last thing we need is a manager coming in who has his own baggage we have enough of that of our own.

 

[joey.leone]

If we have the longest managerial search in football history and end up with some fat dork from Scotland I'm going to lose my shit.

Dork? Have you been watching re-runs of Saved by the bell or something?

 

[Whitey]

When I asked about why, quite rightly pointed out he’s done well everywhere really he’s been at he’s overachieved in a sense or been shot in the foot.

Estoril he got them way over achieving

Sporting done well got them their first trophy I think in a long while then got sacked for refusing to wear the club suit as the club had secretly gone about getting Jorge Jesus in

Olympiakos done really well, but didn’t enjoy it there and left

Hull got them playing amazingly well unlucky to go down however wasn’t a big fan of the rugby ground share stopping his team playing football.

Watford - who lasts long there? Well I think he’s lasted the longest of the bunch in recent years, was doing very well then Everton tapped him up and they fell off a wagon.

Everton got them to 8th despite the club being a clusterfuck Everton fans will openly say sacking him was a mistake

Fulham well yeh they are doing very well, and at each and every one of these clubs he’s got them playing amazing attacking football he’s also got a good eye for a player, he can also make his tactics suit a players limitations.

He’s got premier league experience he’s used to London now, won’t take any time to bed in and get the best out of squad and can play a variety of ways and formations to suit certain player.

I can see where his shout was coming from that’s before you find out that he’s apparently a terrific guy, super good coach and tactically immense. He’s United Fulham and turned them from a yo yo club into a threat.

I didn’t know this but he was looked at for both the arsenal job before arteta and emery as well as the Chelsea job before potter and after.

You've sold me..... One I wouldn't be disappointed with. Whoever we appoint needs to be given the time to re-shape, re-energise this squad however they see fit..... It's not like Silva's not aware of what he'd be getting into.... I think he'd back himself to turn it around.... And that is a journey I think us fans need right now.....

 

[piedpiper]

No one, not a single soul and definitely not Jose asked for Rodon. Be for real.

Okay noted..... I then genuinely thought it was him..... wasn't at all trying to rewrite the narrative.

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

Munn, the Australian, is no doubt looking forward to the club funded beano to Australia to play a friendly in July. Which will be an ideal venue for Postecoglou the Australian to be unveiled as Daniel Levy's new victim. Our esteemed chairman is really looking forward to wearing one of those hats with the dangly corks all over it and has already been practising telling didgeridoo jokes in the club canteen which has led to a huge drop off in customers, the bloke just can't catch a break.

 

[Marty]

Are they very different reasons? And who knows how damaged Potter is from his Chelsea experience same for Rodgers. Last thing we need is a manager coming in who has his own baggage we have enough of that of our own.

Well there's a bit of a difference between a bloated mess of 20 new signings vs our squad. But all problems stem from bad decisions at top level so if that's the umbrella you use then yes I suppose they are similar.

Potter isn't my first choice now like he was in 21, but I still think he's a good manager and if you took out the Chelsea baggage he would be my first choice. But I really feel we need a manager who comes in on a high which is why not getting Slot felt pretty shit. He was the standout candidate for me.