No stadium yet....by the looks of things

[Stoof]

I'm trying to look for a post I made at the start of the season and I can't find it.

It's when the club said they would announce a definite plan before Christmas. I said something along the lines of, "first it will be end of the year, then end of January, then end of the financial year, then end of the season, then end of the transfer window, then before end of the year (2008)".

They keep moving the goalposts and it really pees me off. OK it's obvious no-one's going to finance themselves up to the hilt in new stadia, but at least a plan of action or a "when the market is better [X] is what we're going to do". No, just "wait-and-see".

Look where that got John Major.

 

[southlondonyiddo]

We should just knock the west stand down as it only holds 6,000 odd and build a monster stand in it's place (like elland road) for a fraction of the cost. 10,000 extra seats and problem solved with a car park underneath (stamford bridge)

I agree with this. The West stand currently holds 7,500 we should rebuild this and then rebuild the East. This would eventually take us above 50,000 it would also mean we wouldn't have to move into a soulless corporate bowl and we could keep WHL rocking.

F+ck a move, we all know the middle bit would be corporate and when that happens we may as well all just watch it on the telly as the atmosphere will be similar to a front room!

 

[nightgoat]

hi Dave of course this is all 'back of the envelope' stuff - but the latest talk is of 50,000 - so max extra fans is 14,000

we wont sell out all games either probably (especially cup games)- I think a prudent costing would be 10,000 x £30 x 25 games - = about £7.5m? (didn't use a calculator - may be wrong)

If we had an increase of only 14,000, with a season ticket waiting list of supposedly 20,000+, I think we would manage to sell out every game...

 

[bigturnip]

I've been sceptical about the whole 'new stadium' thing from the start so am glad for this extra thinking time.

The reason it seems the plans have been scuppered for now seems mainly the low land value, however the land value is pretty irrelevant if you're going to call it home for the next 100 years or so, unless you want to borrow more money against that land than what it is currently worth. We would also be able to borrow against the future value of the stadium, this basically means Current Mortgageable Land Value + Future Mortgageable Stadium Value + What Joe And His Mates Are Prepared To Risk < Cost To Build Stadium.

Of course, they may have realised that the financial risk is just too big and we can't really afford the luxury of a new stadium.

 

[Stoof]

If we had an increase of only 14,000, with a season ticket waiting list of supposedly 20,000+, I think we would manage to sell out every game...

It's 12,000.

I asked.

 

[Stoof]

I've been sceptical about the whole 'new stadium' thing from the start so am glad for this extra thinking time.

The reason it seems the plans have been scuppered for now seems mainly the low land value, however the land value is pretty irrelevant if you're going to call it home for the next 100 years or so, unless you want to borrow more money against that land than what it is currently worth. We would also be able to borrow against the future value of the stadium, this basically means Current Mortgageable Land Value + Future Mortgageable Stadium Value + What Joe And His Mates Are Prepared To Risk < Cost To Build Stadium.

Of course, they may have realised that the financial risk is just too big and we can't really afford the luxury of a new stadium.

Why mortgage ourselves normally, when we can properly mortgage ourselves to the hilt.

In this market? No way Jose.

I also think people overplay Lewis' involvement anyway. And also, after his Bear loss, I doubt he's going to be readily investing or sourcing finance deals.

It doesn't mean I'm not pissed off though, I want to know what's fudging going on.

 

[DC_Boy]

If we had an increase of only 14,000, with a season ticket waiting list of supposedly 20,000+, I think we would manage to sell out every game...

well NG we'll see if it happens - personally I don't think we will sell out all UEFA and Lge Cup games in a 50,000 stadium - unless they considerably reduce the prices and then the maths changes anyway