No 'Yid flags' for our Carling Cup tie

[Dibby]

This reminds me I need to buy a flag for a pub over here. They currently have Man Utd, L'Pool, Newcastle & Arsenal and I need to put a Yid among the pigeons.

Can any of you recommend a good website for buying Tottenham flags?

http://www.barmyflags.co.uk/

Or they have them on the official shop.

 

[Max_Junglie]

Perhaps they're worried that the flags might incite the locals to frenzied paroxysms of anti-semitic chanting and hate-flinging and that it's best not to offer them any reminders or provocation? I don't know what they're like up in Doncaster but I didn't have them pencilled in as the most brutal of the northern savages.

 

[bomberH]

There was an Israeli flag at the Boleyn on Sunday .

Can't see how that is going to make Moslem Spurs or West Ham fans feel more welcome or included .

Thats probably where Doncaster Rovers are coming from .

The term 'PC gone mad' is probably more overused and banded about wrongly, than 'Legend'.

Thanks for trying to level it up.

 

[Dibby]

PC Gone Mad!

 

[Mr-T]

Doncaster really are fucking idiots. If they dont like the word Yid (let alone understand our use of it) they should have just kept quiet. The chants of 'YIDS', 'Yid Army' and 'We are the Yids' is gonna be relentless now and it'll serve the stupid bastards right.

YID ARMY!!

 

[KentuckyYid]

http://www.barmyflags.co.uk/

Or they have them on the official shop.

No Tottenham flags at barmyflags (At least the search didn't find any), and I was looking for something a little different than what you can get at the OS.

Thanks for the link though. Anymore?

 

[riggi]

Yid is offensive. It is a digusting word and very derogatory to Jewish people. However being one myself and a true Spur I love the fact we shout and call ourselves 'Yid Army'.

It shows that Spurs fans are proud to be associated with Jewish fans and that we are accepted within the Spurs family.

If Daniel Levy and all Jewish Spurs fans don't mind - why should Doncaster Rovers ?

Agreed, because of the whole association with the Jewish community, ive tried to find out more about the faith, which is not something i would do otherwise.I think we all just need to accept that this kind of situation is always gunna pop up in some form or another.

And anyway im not anti-semitic, i love bagels and Ben Stiller :shrug:.

 

[finnoathletic]

Perhaps they're worried that the flags might incite the locals to frenzied paroxysms of anti-semitic chanting and hate-flinging and that it's best not to offer them any reminders or provocation? I don't know what they're like up in Doncaster but I didn't have them pencilled in as the most brutal of the northern savages.

We're not :wink: I don't think many in Doncaster know what a Yid is apart from us Spurs Fans.

 

[Bing]

Christ, why does this get dug up once in a while? :think:

By branding ourselves Yid's, Yido's, Yid Army etc what the hell is it to do with Doncaster Rovers?? Are Sunderlands fans stopped from waving flags with "Black Cat" written on it, in fear of upsetting all the other coloured cats out there? Are Wycombes fans to be banned from calling themselves Chairboys, cos they might upset other types of furniture? :lol:

Actually Wycombe fans now call themselves Chairpeople as the term Chairboys was found to be sexist.


Nah it really is ridiculous, wont be there but anybody going give them a few extra loud cries of YID for me.:beer:

 

[mozzer]

Well they can control our words, but not what come from our mouths! To think we was rediculed for years for being Jew's or "YIDS" Now we use the term for a sign of unity and only now is it taken seriously. Wonderous ways of the world.

 

[mozzer]

contradiction me thinks, "they can control what we write" makes more sense me thinks

 

[KentuckyYid]

Three people should bring a flag with a Y, I and D on it. That'll get around the ban.

 

[Krafty]

It might have more to do with Doncaster than it has to do with us.

As for the term Yid I would certainly like to know if it was offensive to the Jewish community in Tottenham. I like to think of it as a badge of honour, a term that was used against us because of the make up of the people of Tottenham, but then taken by the fans to be something to be proud of.

I can remember a man utd fan (born and bred in surrey) on the school bus back in the day, trying to goade me and a couple of spurs mates with the word Yid. He got really annoyed when we said we were yids, we were part of the yid army, and he could keep on calling us that, we really had no problem with it.

 

[Dibby]

Three people should bring a flag with a Y, I and D on it. That'll get around the ban.

Or velcro letters. :lol:

 

[phil]

It might have more to do with Doncaster than it has to do with us.

As for the term Yid I would certainly like to know if it was offensive to the Jewish community in Tottenham. I like to think of it as a badge of honour, a term that was used against us because of the make up of the people of Tottenham, but then taken by the fans to be something to be proud of.

I can remember a man utd fan (born and bred in surrey) on the school bus back in the day, trying to goade me and a couple of spurs mates with the word Yid. He got really annoyed when we said we were yids, we were part of the yid army, and he could keep on calling us that, we really had no problem with it.

It is difficult for non-Jews to understand whether the term 'yid' is offensive. I've not met any English person offended by the terms Pom or Limey, or white people offended by 'honkey' but we are not a minority in this country. I have met many Jews, including those I spoke to in Israel, who do not regard it as offensive but I concede that it is offensive to others. I suspect that the context is critical.

Wiki gives a reasonable history of the term. Being brought up in a predominantly Jewish area in the 50s, I am sure that the term was was not regarded as offensive. There was a famous song at the time sung by Sophie Tucker, entitled "My Yiddisher Momma".

Yiddish, of course, is a perfectly acceptable term. Perhaps we should become the Yiddish Army?

 

[Rocksuperstar]

I'm sure someone's pointed this out but would this also be the case if they were playing Ajax you reckon? :think:

Not like that will ever happen, other than a very unlikely friendly match :lol:

I'm trying to think of any other clubs this would affect - could really make things awkward for the Rangers/Celtic derby if offensive religious references are banned :up:

 

[Cicada]

i don't get why Yid would be considered offensive.. it's just a shortened version of Yiddish surely..

it's like called a Finnish speaker a Fin surely, or am i going mad here?

 

[Rocksuperstar]

i don't get why Yid would be considered offensive.. it's just a shortened version of Yiddish surely..

it's like called a Finnish speaker a Fin surely, or am i going mad here?

Don't get started on that, it'll just turn all eyes towards the guy from Pakistan...

 

[KentuckyYid]

i don't get why Yid would be considered offensive.. it's just a shortened version of Yiddish surely..

it's like called a Finnish speaker a Fin surely, or am i going mad here?

Try shortening the name of a Pakistani... To be honest I don't see why that is racist but I guess it's all about the tone it is said and used in rather than the actual word itself.

 

[Cicada]

Don't get started on that, it'll just turn all eyes towards the guy from Pakistan...

yeah..might have missed that one...

i was trying to think of all the shortened versions of countries that might be offensive and somehow never got there...weird