Paul Mitchell Joins Tottenham

[jimbo]

They're going to fucking love us in Southampton.

 

[Mullers]

Why would bringing this bloke in mean we finish 8th? I don't think you get this debate Mullers.
Its about knowledge, building behind the scenes, buying players who fit because Levy clearly doesn't have the first clue how to do that, should we just keep bringing players in who turn a profit regardless? or try to correct the problems with recruitment?

I'm not saying it would, I;m saying he wants the head of recruitment of a club that finished 8th, finishing 8th is not really a ringing endorsement. If Southampton finished 5th or 6th I'd understand a lot more why he would go for him,

 

[only1waddle]

Maybe it says more about them as a club than us as one.

Yes, abso-fucking-lutely it does, they drew up a plan of action many seasons ago, it says they are on the same page as a group from top to bottom of the club, nobody knows what Levy has done with the page at ours, in fact we have sacked a fair number of people who were bought in to find it.

 

[ClintEastwould]

Should we create a new MS thread, or resurrect the old one?

Jesus that would really cheer me up to be honest.

 

[only1waddle]

I'm not saying it would, I;m saying he wants the head of recruitment of a club that finished 8th, finishing 8th is not really a ringing endorsement. If Southampton finished 5th or 6th I'd understand a lot more why he would go for him,

Mullers that's total nonsense, that was their second season in the EPL after coming through all the divisions with a much smaller budget, we've had bigger crowds, larger fanbase, CL money, EPL finish money, TV money, Europa money etc for years since Southampton got relegated.


Do you honestly believe he could have made a huge recruitment drive to achieve 5th or 6th after their 1st season back?

Liverpool finished second last season, they are the 2nd most successful English club yet had to settle for Balotelli, that's all he could get, how on earth do you think this bloke at Southampton would fare?

Again, read the piece please, he's not a magic wand but he talks sense about how the structure of a football club should be run, or my belief in how a club should be run behind the scenes. Its a strategy, which is a damn sight more than we have now.

 

[shelfboy68]

Yes, abso-fucking-lutely it does, they drew up a plan of action many seasons ago, it says they are on the same page as a group from top to bottom of the club, nobody knows what Levy has done with the page at ours, in fact we have sacked a fair number of people who were bought in to find it.

This is hardly something new but there is too much politics at the club with too many having input when they should stay the Fuck out.
We have become a laughing stock and a mess of a club and this will take a while to sort out, i also noticed that the supporters trust have arranged a meeting with the club next week.
Dont know about you but this is Long overdue the fans having dialogue with the club and it will be interesting to see what the plans are for the short and Long term future of the club.

 

[Mullers]

Mullers that's total nonsense, that was their second season in the EPL after coming through all the divisions with a much smaller budget, we've had bigger crowds, larger fanbase, CL money, EPL finish money, TV money, Europa money etc for years since Southampton got relegated.


Do you honestly believe he could have made a huge recruitment drive to achieve 5th or 6th after their 1st season back?

Liverpool finished second last season, they are the 2nd most successful English club yet had to settle for Balotelli, that's all he could get, how on earth do you think this bloke at Southampton would fare?

Again, read the piece please, he's not a magic wand but he talks sense about how the structure of a football club should be run, or my belief in how a club should be run behind the scenes. Its a strategy, which is a damn sight more than we have now.

I'm not saying that he doesn't talk sense but that alone is not enough, the expectation level at Southampton and with us are two different things and he would be expected to do much better with us in a shorter time, The very least I would suggest is to wait and see where southampton finish before we make any snap judgements and make another flavor of the month signing who will ultimately be another scapegoat if things don't work out.

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

We have become a laughing stock and a mess of a club and this will take a while to sort out, i also noticed that the supporters trust have arranged a meeting with the club next week.
Dont know about you but this is Long overdue the fans having dialogue with the club and it will be interesting to see what the plans are for the short and Long term future of the club.

The supporters trust. LOL

Levy will gladhand them, flim-flam and bullshit them and then baffle them to fuck with so much spin that you'd think he was the bastard son of Chemical Ali and Josef Goebbels. They'll come out of that with paper bags full of Levy's wind and not much else.

Nothing will come of that little teaparty.

 

[slartibartfast]

Omg this is plain embarrassing imo.
If true of course.

 

[CowInAComa]

Of course its true.

 

[shelfboy68]

The supporters trust. LOL

Levy will gladhand them, flim-flam and bullshit them and then baffle them to fuck with so much spin that you'd think he was the bastard son of Chemical Ali and Josef Goebbels. They'll come out of that with paper bags full of Levy's wind and not much else.

Nothing will come of that little teaparty.

Yeah your right i guess but i was clinging to belief We might see change i must be Mad.

 

[only1waddle]

I'm not saying that he doesn't talk sense but that alone is not enough, the expectation level at Southampton and with us are two different things and he would be expected to do much better with us in a shorter time, The very least I would suggest is to wait and see where southampton finish before we make any snap judgements and make another flavor of the month signing who will ultimately be another scapegoat if things don't work out.

How can a head of recruitment at a smaller club be flavour of the month? ridiculous
He may well want to stay and continue his work at Southampton, good luck to him if he does and much qudos with such fickle loyalty in the game these days.
Now here's the rub for you once again, he has been successful on a small budget with recruitment as they have flown through the divisions and stayed in the EPL, equalling their highest ever finish.

He doesn't set the team, he keeps continuity between the youth teams, buys and recruits players to fit the first team, he doesn't coach the defence, he doesn't train the Strikers, he's not down the tunnel with an ice pack on a wobbly bottom.
He can only do so much at a club of Southampton's size, they will reach a ceiling, as will we, what we may as well do is put a structure in place to keep it consistent, so when a coach is replaced the club and its philosophy stays the same, not ripped up and rebuilt time and again.
That's his job, and 6th and 8th place is pretty much the same thing these days bar regular top 6 teams needing a bigger squad to cope with away days in Latvia.

 

[Jamturk]

What a load of political bullshit

you're not kidding me Levy

 

[only1waddle]

What a load of political bullshit

you're not kidding me Levy

We know he wont ever make a peep in public but i am happy to take it as an admission of guilt from him anyway, he's fucked up, he tried to be clever and i think he knows it now. If all this is true of course.

 

[midge]

"It’s important our players play in our system and in our style and cope with the demands of the manager and the coaching staff"

This will be tough at our club. We have had so many managers we do not have a system or a style.

Soton had a 5 year plan to rehaul the club playing style and system....I do not think Levy will even give the manager 2 years to do that .

Thats been always our problem, we expect an instant fix and blame the manager once we dont get it

 

[Graysonti]

The supporters trust. LOL

Levy will gladhand them, flim-flam and bullshit them and then baffle them to fuck with so much spin that you'd think he was the bastard son of Chemical Ali and Josef Goebbels. They'll come out of that with paper bags full of Levy's wind and not much else.

Nothing will come of that little teaparty.

Yep - and I know two of them personally

 

[DiscoD1882]

If all else fails. steal someone elses success. Seems to be the Tottenham mantra these days. No wonder we are so dispised.

 

[SteveH]

So Levy is at fault when tries to sort things and at fault when he doesn't.

Classic!

 

[hybridsoldier]

Such comedy again from our club if this is to be believed.

Look over there, see Southampton doing well. Buying young for cheap and selling high, tick. I know let's take 'the man responsible' and he will wave his magic wand at White Hart Lane.

This is why our club is in the shit right now. This half-arsed, stupid, lazy attitude. Anyone with half a brain could tell you that its not just one man who is responsible for Southampton's success but an absolute multitude of factors combined. Paul Mitchell would be an utter flop at Spurs because the club lacks structure, purpose, future planning, an ideology and the personality to see it through.

It is abundantly clear that Daniel Levy needs to step back and focus on the commercial and business areas of the club and hand over the whole Footballing side of the operation over to someone else. Someone with the knowledge, character, expertise and bloody-mindedness to see through a top to bottom change.

We need a better scouting structure - Comolli had his critics but the quality of player we brought in under him was very good. In the end he didn't have the resources to get Spurs where the Chairman wanted us. Since then we went backwards with no real scouting set up.

We need a congruent hierarchy - A manager/head coach, a head scout, a youth team coach, and a director of football all aligned to the same ideals and philosophy. Not the fragmented mess we have now where Baldini wants player X and Pochettino prefers player Y, but Levy wants player Z because he is better value for money.

We need to restructure the playing staff with characters - Currently we have a talented squad but they lack personality, character and fight. We are the atypical southern softies. A man universally hated is John Terry, but Chelsea players know when they make a mistake or don't put in a performance he will dig them out. Opposition fans always give him stick and dog's abuse but it never affects his performance. What he has done off the pitch is unquestionably shady but on that pitch he is the kind of leader we sorely sorely lack.

We need to address the mental issues at the club - hire a psychologist or more than one and start taking them seriously. Sports psychology is the real deal and why Jose Mourinho is one of the best managers on the planet.

I think absolutely none of the fans will have a problem with us not doing well as long as there are tangible changes and progress. We see no light at the end of the tunnel that is why we are so angry and disillusioned.

 

[SteveH]

If all else fails. steal someone elses success. Seems to be the Tottenham mantra these days. No wonder we are so dispised.

it how Microsoft got so successful - don't knock it, it's not a popularity contest.