PGMOL should apologise to club & fans.

[kungfugrip]

Bad decisions happen all the time. We should have conceded a penalty against Swansea for Dawson's push on Bony but it wasn't given.

 

[Lufti]

No way?

That's what they said on BT sport

Just looked, and it's wrong :s They defo said it on BT though, I'll delete my post!

 

[tiger666]

Am I the only one who finds this thread a bit embarrassing?

 

[ExpatFan]

That is so racist. Why petrol ? just because the city owners are from Uae? I mean what if he prefers dry fruits and camels

I've long thought that the word "racist" was bandied about far too much, often without any regard to its true meaning. But this really does take the biscuit, or should that be the chapati?

 

[CowInAComa]

1) A blatant dive? Toure stuck out a leg, it wasn't the first time he had been putting in sly tackles.
2) What nonsense. How on earth can it be a handball when Bentaleb was protecting his face from a ball that was hurtling at 100mph? It's a completely natural reaction.
3) Of course the decisions were game changers, you don't need to be Einstein to realise that.

we would have been going mad for a penalty in that situation if it were the other way around.

 

[CowInAComa]

Am I the only one who finds this thread a bit embarrassing?

If we are going to be on the end of some bumhole decisions, like we were last night, would rather they occur last night than against Hull and drop us some real winnable points.

 

[SpartanSpur]

http://www.101greatgoals.com/blog/m...le-by-danny-rose-on-edin-dzeko-rose-sent-off/

It is minimal contact, but thats the contact that causes Dzeko to go down - linesman view, it really does look pretty stonewall.

Flip it around, and imagine that Dzeko is Ade, and Rose is Kompany.

You'd be saying deffo penalty, ebcause his heel was clipped.
Doesn't matter how much contact, thats what caused him to go down, so a penalty and a sending off.

It's that easily flipped around between the two, so how on earth are Ref's and lino's expected to get things right first time?

Considering both Poll and Gallagher have come out today and said the penalty was the wrong decision I think that we can deem any contact as a direct result of the tackle (that subsequently won the ball) was clearly insufficient.

100% agree on your assessment of the offside though.

 

[MaccSpurs]

Am I the only one who finds this thread a bit embarrassing?

Nope, this thread is highly embarrassing.

I was at Old Trafford the day we scored but didn't score. You know the one, when Mendes hit it from 50 yards out and Carroll pushed it back out when it had clearly gone over the line.

Anyway, my fellow Spurs fans were going nuts. Crazy, saliva dripping from their mouths they were so enraged. Then it got worse, friends who were watching the game at home who had the benefit of multiple replays could all see it was a goal and started sending text messages along with screen shots of the incident. More saliva drooled from these Neanderthals as their rage increased.

For those who have been to Old Trafford will know the away fans are on the corner behind the goal that this infamous goal was scored and we too could see it was a goal. The problem was, and something I said at the time, was the referee and linesman were both level with the ball as it was kicked and there was simply no way they could be sure from their angle and based on their view they couldn't give it because they thought this and that. They have to give what they are 100% sure of and in this instance they only decision they could make was the one they actually made. Fans still wanted them lynched.

My point is, like the game last night, we now want the referee and linesman lynched based on multiple television replays.

It even took a few replays of the disallowed goal until it could be ascertained that Dawson was not offside at the time the ball was kicked.

As for Rose, when the tackle occurred my first thought was that it was a clear penalty. It is only with the super slow motion replays that you can see Rose actually got to the ball first.

It is not unreasonable to understand why the linesman flagged Dawson offside and thought he did not touch the ball first.

Regardless of all of that...

As much as I hate to say it, we were always chasing this game and City looked like they could score at will.

Don't forget they hit the post and Lloris pulled off a world class save which would have made it 3-1 at half-time. Perhaps 4 or 5-1 if Dezko could actually shoot on target.

 

[MattyP]

My point is, like the game last night, we now want the referee and linesman lynched based on multiple television replays.

It even took a few replays of the disallowed goal until it could be ascertained that Dawson was not offside at the time the ball was kicked.

As for Rose, when the tackle occurred my first thought was that it was a clear penalty. It is only with the super slow motion replays that you can see Rose actually got to the ball first.

It is not unreasonable to understand why the linesman flagged Dawson offside and thought he did not touch the ball first.

Regardless of all of that...

As much as I hate to say it, we were always chasing this game and City looked like they could score at will.

Don't forget they hit the post and Lloris pulled off a world class save which would have made it 3-1 at half-time. Perhaps 4 or 5-1 if Dezko could actually shoot on target.

Sorry for editing your post before replying.

I'm not saying I'm great, but on the night, with one viewing of each incident live as it happened (as they don't show replays of controversial incidents on the jumbotron), I thought the goal was offside and that Rose played the ball.

Having gone home and then watched MoTD, my feelings on both incidents haven't changed one bit.

The penalty decision was awful. It wasn't quite on a par with the Robbo penalty decision away to Seville, but it was right up there with bad decisions we've been on the end of.

If these incidents hadn't happened and City had their shooting boots on and we'd still lost 5-1, I'd be saying the same thing today as I have been, that City are a really good side.

But these incidents did happen, when it was 1-0, we were slowly getting into the game and City were rattled, so it does have some significance on the outcome of the game.

 

[kcmei]

Whether it was a penalty or not is irrelevant. At least man city is getting into those positions.

 

[MaccSpurs]

Sorry for editing your post before replying.

I'm not saying I'm great, but on the night, with one viewing of each incident live as it happened (as they don't show replays of controversial incidents on the jumbotron), I thought the goal was offside and that Rose played the ball.

Having gone home and then watched MoTD, my feelings on both incidents haven't changed one bit.

The penalty decision was awful. It wasn't quite on a par with the Robbo penalty decision away to Seville, but it was right up there with bad decisions we've been on the end of.

If these incidents hadn't happened and City had their shooting boots on and we'd still lost 5-1, I'd be saying the same thing today as I have been, that City are a really good side.

But these incidents did happen, when it was 1-0, we were slowly getting into the game and City were rattled, so it does have some significance on the outcome of the game.

Don't disagree with what you have said but these things come around. We lose some, we win some.

Remember Soldado's hat-trick against Anzhi Makhachkala in the Europa League match? Fredericks dived for the penalty that was awarded.

No one was crying about that as it benefited us.

I'm sure if we go back through many a match we can all find incidents that worked for us and against. Isn't that what makes the game the way it is?

 

[Shanks]

Man United pen at home on dec1st, from the stand it looked like lloris had saved it, but on replay that night, was clear we'll beck nipped it in the other direction!

 

[MaccSpurs]

Man United pen at home on dec1st, from the stand it looked like lloris had saved it, but on replay that night, was clear we'll beck nipped it in the other direction!

Good point! In the same game Lloris took out, and I mean took out, Young for what should have been a clear penalty and nothing, not a thing was given.

Ok, that is probably because of Young's reputation for diving but on this occasion the ref and linesman got it wrong. Shall we lynch them too as I am sure we all want to be fair right?

 

[nightgoat]

Really annoyed with Sherwood's reaction to it after the game. What is it about spurs managers? Every official in the game must know by now that no matter how bad you screw us over, no matter how horrendous their errors, no matter if you literally hand the game to our opponents and no matter how crucial the game, you will never take any heat from our club.

There are no consequences for screwing us over with multiple bad decisions.

If you think it hasn't crossed an officials mind when making a call against a team managed by mourinho, Fergie and wenger what kind of shit will follow then you are very naive.

No referee has ever thought "ooh, not sure about that. I'd better not give it cos, [jol, Harry! AVB, sherwood] etc will give me he'll in the press after the game."

To my surprise I've been impressed with Sherwood so far, but that was bad management last night.

It's strange, whenever we get bad decisions go against us people on here will express their dissatisfaction with how little pressure our home support puts on referees. Take Newcastle, for example. When they played City their fans harangued the officials for virtually the rest of the match. Our fans last night had a half-hearted chorus of 'who's the wanker in the black?' but that was it. If they don't get abuse from the home fans then no doubt they'll think they're getting decisions right. But then it's not really surprising considering how many people are making excuses for the two decisions last night.

 

[Josiebyar]

Am I the only one who finds this thread a bit embarrassing?

why? because a linesman who had clearly an agenda pro-City decided to ruin a game within few minutes of the start of the second half....

embarrasing indeed for my wallet having paid good hard-earned money to see a game that only lasted 50mins....

 

[tiger666]

why? because a linesman who had clearly an agenda pro-City decided to ruin a game within few minutes of the start of the second half....

embarrasing indeed for my wallet having paid good hard-earned money to see a game that only lasted 50mins....

No that's not why.

 

[Josiebyar]

As for Rose, when the tackle occurred my first thought was that it was a clear penalty. It is only with the super slow motion replays that you can see Rose actually got to the ball first.

that's a poor excuse...the linesman is paid to see that incident...it happens right in front of him he is not that far to have missed it.

imagine you took a bad decision at your work which would make the Company you work for lose millions...

what if Spurs miss out on the CL millions by 1 point at the end of the season?

why are refs unaccountable for their bad decisions?

 

[tiger666]

that's a poor excuse...the linesman is paid to see that incident...it happens right in front of him he is not that far to have missed it.

No it's not. He's human like the rest of us. I thought it was a penalty when I first saw it live.

 

[MaccSpurs]

why? because a linesman who had clearly an agenda pro-City decided to ruin a game within few minutes of the start of the second half....

embarrasing indeed for my wallet having paid good hard-earned money to see a game that only lasted 50mins....

Where exactly where you sitting in the ground?

 

[lazarus]

It's strange, whenever we get bad decisions go against us people on here will express their dissatisfaction with how little pressure our home support puts on referees. Take Newcastle, for example. When they played City their fans harangued the officials for virtually the rest of the match. Our fans last night had a half-hearted chorus of 'who's the wanker in the black?' but that was it. If they don't get abuse from the home fans then no doubt they'll think they're getting decisions right. But then it's not really surprising considering how many people are making excuses for the two decisions last night.

Rated this a winner as I cannot understand how some people can call themselves Spurs fans yet feel happy to argue passionately against fans wearing "Spurs-tinted" spectacles about a penalty and offside that at the very least could be characterised as 'marginal' decisions.

Where are their "spurs-tinted" specs?

Totally agree about home fans failing to intimidate the refs too. If we're not at the game doing that; then what the f**k are we there for? I'm not there to munch on prawn sarnies and sip champers...I'm there to be the twelfth man, cos thats the closest I'll ever get to pulling on the shirt and running on the pitch!