Player Watch: Fernando Llorente

[Lighty64]

I've been obsessed with wide forwards since we had Bale and Lennon ripping teams to shreds.

yes but in their early days teams never parked the bus against us when they played at their own grounds. now days they park it home and away against us.

Bales last season for us was mainly scoring fab goals from outside the area. yes his turn of foot got him in a place to shoot, but it was his accuracy that got the goals

 

[davros]

My other thought on the pacey wide forward issue is that we have Son who scored 20+ goals last season. He plays that role very effectively and he is often brought on to change a game.

 

[aliyid]

Anyone who thinks all we need is a pacey wide forward just needs to watch any England game from the last few years. Sterling, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Rashford, Linguard all have pace to burn but little football intelligence or creativity around the box so revert to selfish and predictable ball hogging that's easy to defend against (esp the way teams set-up against us with a deep block)

It's not as if we haven't tried these players either with Nkoudou & N'Jie but I'd say we've done quite well so far with what we have

 

[Metalhead]

Any reason for the spam rating on my post @Metalhead or was it in error?

Must be a mistake old boy. I never use negative ratings deliberately.

 

[TaoistMonkey]

It's pretty obvious why this was marked as spam. Do we really need a thread for every idiotic musing somebody has?

He could ask the same pointed question in any number of threads, but instead he wants to attention seek and ensure that everybody hears him out. Can't risk having his semi-coherent rambling lost in the mire of another thread and other posts. He has to be the OP and he has to tell you what's what. He's the man.

There's no need for the OP to call Llorente an "over 30 year old slow striker" - completely over-simplifying what he brings as a player and being pointlessly insulting. For those also perplexed by the reaction to the needlessly negative and inflammatory thread, thinking, "Yeah, I got a load of spams before too!" - it's because you talk a load of bollocks, just like the OP.

Yeah but the Spam rating is meant for off topic stuff. Not things people disagree with.

Maybe that wasn't clear?

 

[Spurrific]

Yeah but the Spam rating is meant for off topic stuff. Not things people disagree with.

Maybe that wasn't clear?

Yeah, but if you're starting a thread, it's almost impossible to be off-topic, surely?

If I were to start a thread saying, "Is Pochettino a blancmange?" and rambled on for a few paragraphs on the similarities between the two, it'd still classify as spam.

"Spam" for me, is irrelevant discussion or pointless inane waffle - junk. I think this thread was junk, it served no purpose really and wasn't a "discussion" that couldn't have been had in any other thread. It constitutes spam to me because he created a superfluous thread that never needed to exist, hence spamming the forum.

I don't think I rated it as spam, though.

 

[TaoistMonkey]

Yeah, but if you're starting a thread, it's almost impossible to be off-topic, surely?

If I were to start a thread saying, "Is Pochettino a blancmange?" and rambled on for a few paragraphs on the similarities between the two, it'd still classify as spam.

"Spam" for me, is irrelevant discussion or pointless inane waffle - junk. I think this thread was junk, it served no purpose really and wasn't a "discussion" that couldn't have been had in any other thread. It constitutes spam to me because he created a superfluous thread that never needed to exist, hence spamming the forum.

I don't think I rated it as spam, though.

I can see where you're coming from but just a simple link to a thread where a discussion is already taking place would have been more productive than giving this guy a load of spam ratings (not that you did).

This goes out to all on this site really that we should encourage new threads and not put people off starting them even if they could have joined another conversation.

Its pretty simple to merge threads. Just report it.

With that in mind i'll merge this to the Llorente thread

 

[MattPhilpott]

He's won a World Cup
He's won a European Championship
He's won a Europa League
He's won three Serie A title
He's won three domestic Italian Cups
He's scored goals in the Prem

Do you need anymore reasons?

He's sexy as F*ck

 

[DaleMurphy]

That is def a sexy man

 

[ebzrascal]

Anyone who thinks all we need is a pacey wide forward just needs to watch any England game from the last few years. Sterling, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Rashford, Linguard all have pace to burn but little football intelligence or creativity around the box so revert to selfish and predictable ball hogging that's easy to defend against (esp the way teams set-up against us with a deep block)

It's not as if we haven't tried these players either with Nkoudou & N'Jie but I'd say we've done quite well so far with what we have

Problem is England don't have a midfield that keeps the ball dominates teams to allow pacy forwards to make an impact.

 

[-Afri-Coy-]

A very smart signing if you ask me. Our team is largely unchanged from last season bar Walker, and if Llorente brings us 10 goals off the bench and on the odd start it would be a very good bit of business by us.

We need those extra goals, regardless if they come from the wing or down the middle.

Hopefully Trips/Aurier can deliver some lethal crosses when Llorente or Kane are on the pitch.

 

[bubble07]

does llorente genuinely think the atmosphere was so good when he played in a friendly for bilbao at the lane in 2011? I was there.. It was complete silence

Do players hear different to us or is he just lying?

 

[kitchen]

Anyone who thinks all we need is a pacey wide forward just needs to watch any England game from the last few years. Sterling, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Rashford, Linguard all have pace to burn but little football intelligence or creativity around the box so revert to selfish and predictable ball hogging that's easy to defend against (esp the way teams set-up against us with a deep block)

It's not as if we haven't tried these players either with Nkoudou & N'Jie but I'd say we've done quite well so far with what we have

I agree with what you're saying but I think that Rashford is going to be a very very good player soon.

The signs are already ominous...

 

[npearl4spurs]

does llorente genuinely think the atmosphere was so good when he played in a friendly for bilbao at the lane in 2011? I was there.. It was complete silence

Do players hear different to us or is he just lying?

Embellishment.

 

[LexingtonSpurs]

does llorente genuinely think the atmosphere was so good when he played in a friendly for bilbao at the lane in 2011? I was there.. It was complete silence

Do players hear different to us or is he just lying?

What difference does it make? New signing, and he wants to let the supporters know how important they are. Tough to see a downside.

 

[Tottenham_God]

Just watched his highlights package. Looks a gun. So many headers. Almost as good as Tim Cahill in the air. Has he ever scored from outside the box?

 

[RichieS]

I am assuming that this will be Poch's preferred formation this season [3-4-2-1]...

GK
RCB CB LCB
RWB CM CM LWB
AM AM
CF
​

I would say Poch prefers intelligent players over pace in his AM/CF roles (see Rodriguez/Lambert/Lallana at Soton). Movement and creativity are much more important in these roles. Pace in the WB roles is much more important to his system, and thus Rose and Aurier will be key players for us. Son does offer us genuine pace up top too. Some may have forgotten, but we were the top scorers in the league last year. How far we have come eh?

These are the players we have in the first team squad:

GK: Lloris, Vorm, young lad from Soton
CBs: Alderweireld, Sanchez, Vertonghen, Foyth, Dier
RWB: Aurier, Trippier, KWB
LWB: Rose, Davies
CM: Dembele, Wanyama, Dier, Winks,
AM: Dele, Eriksen, Lamela, Son, <Barkley>, Edwards, N'Koudou, Sissoko,
CF: Kane, Llorente, Jannsen

My thoughts on that missing pacey wide forward

• If Poch really wanted one we'd have one. Or N'Koudou would see more minutes.
• Barkley was probably the missing piece of Poch's jigsaw - shame he had such a bad injury.
• Lamela will be like a new signing if he finally recovers from injury.
• We will have massive competition for places in the AM roles this season.

Completely agree with your post apart from nit-picking on the bold bit - pre-injury J-Rod was fucking rapid (as he showed when scoring twice against us at the Lane to put them 2-0 up a few seasons back. But then, N'Koudou, Sissoko and Son are all quick too, and Eriksen's no slouch either.

 

[Francis Gibbs]

Hope he gets some minutes Sat ... poss with Kane as a 10 and him as the 9. Be useful for CL without Alli

 

[ComfortablyNumb]

I wouldn't mind betting that his first goal for us comes from a Kane assist.

 

[Shadydan]

does llorente genuinely think the atmosphere was so good when he played in a friendly for bilbao at the lane in 2011? I was there.. It was complete silence

Do players hear different to us or is he just lying?

Uuugh this is such an 'international break' post.