Player Watch Player watch: Josh Onomah

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He's rubbish ...trust me

I figure out a long time before any of you did the two N somethings are shit

This one is no different
"This one is no different"? Seriously, why would anyone trust you.
I take it you that the two Ns you're on about are wingers and World Cup & European cup winner, Omomah is a centre mid.
 

JUSTINSIGNAL

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I feel as though he could have at least done as much as our other CMs today. In fact he always looks to pass forward which we sorely lack in midfield at the moment
He is awful at pressing and tackling. And this side of his game hasn’t seemed to improve on loan at Villa. Probably why Bruce plays him in attacking positions

I really rate his ability but until he develops his off the ball work he will never play in central midfield for spurs
 
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IGSpur

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took an elbow to the head, tried to carry on for a while but had to go off.
I wonder if it was blood related or impact. I assume former as stitches could come out causing more bleeding. If impact bit worrying you'd let a player carry on only for him to still have to go off. Should be getting checks for that before carrying on again
 
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I wonder if it was blood related or impact. I assume former as stitches could come out causing more bleeding. If impact bit worrying you'd let a player carry on only for him to still have to go off. Should be getting checks for that before carrying on again
Let's hope we've moved on from the days of players playing with concussions. I'll never forget AVB leaving Lloris on at Everton.
 

SpursD22

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I don’t know if I should post this or not since I’m not a ITK and people won’t believe me but I’m going to do it anyways.

I have a cousin who used to live in Enfield and he knows someone that knows someone that is close to Josh. And Josh said that he felt like he get unfairly threatened at times and should’ve got more game time because he felt he 90% of the time he always performed well in training. He used to sometimes after training stay with Mousa Dembele to learn a few things from him, he looked up (still looks up) to him. And Mousa said to him that he’s the closest he’s seen anyone like him in terms of football qualities.
Poch speaks to the academy players from when they’re very young and he has a good relationship with Poch and Josh has multiple times said that he wants to play in the Dembele role but Poch always said that he wasn’t ready and that position is the most risk position. Poch is stubborn and won’t change his opinion quickly, so Onomah suggested for over a year that he should go out on loan but Poch disagreed and Josh got a bit frustrated since he didn’t even get the chance here. But he kept moving on. After the World Cup Josh came back earlier than expected to pre season just to impress on the staff, he went to the gym much more but instead Poch felt like Josh gave the wrong impression and came out a bit over confident and cocky. Josh spoke to Poch multiple times in the summer, almost demanding getting a real chance in midfield and Poch got a bit frustrated since he told Josh to be patient, so Josh pushed for a loan move and eventually Poch gave the thumbs up, Josh missed out on 2 Premier League clubs and got a bit mad at that but he accepted a Aston Villa loan move. Bruce and Poch had talked for some times and Bruce is a big Onomah fan. Josh says that he likes it in Birmingham, feels like he’s getting along well with the team mates but is still a bit frustrated because he doesn’t play in his preferred position, when played there at the beginning of the season he felt he did good and was progressing but Bruce prefers him higher up in the pitch because he can hold up the ball well and link up play. Josh said that he will 99% stay at Villa for the rest of the season and has been offered a permanent deal from Villa but he won’t agree to that, Villa has also been talking to Spurs about a permanent deal but we don’t want to sell and we would demand a lot of money. Josh wants to come back in the summer and fight for his place. Poch still sees a future with Josh but they don’t agree on certain things for example his preferred position. Poch doesn’t think he’s ready to play there but Josh disagrees. And Josh feels like he’s earned the chance here and wants to see a clear path for him here. He’s happy for Winks since they’re good mates but sees him as a competitor and he said that Winks was also a bit frustrated at the beginning. All in all Josh will stay at Villa for the rest of the season, sees a future here but is a bit frustrated and wants to get a real chance.

If you don’t believe what I’ve said just ignore me
 

Hercules

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I don’t know if I should post this or not since I’m not a ITK and people won’t believe me but I’m going to do it anyways.

I have a cousin who used to live in Enfield and he knows someone that knows someone that is close to Josh. And Josh said that he felt like he get unfairly threatened at times and should’ve got more game time because he felt he 90% of the time he always performed well in training. He used to sometimes after training stay with Mousa Dembele to learn a few things from him, he looked up (still looks up) to him. And Mousa said to him that he’s the closest he’s seen anyone like him in terms of football qualities.
Poch speaks to the academy players from when they’re very young and he has a good relationship with Poch and Josh has multiple times said that he wants to play in the Dembele role but Poch always said that he wasn’t ready and that position is the most risk position. Poch is stubborn and won’t change his opinion quickly, so Onomah suggested for over a year that he should go out on loan but Poch disagreed and Josh got a bit frustrated since he didn’t even get the chance here. But he kept moving on. After the World Cup Josh came back earlier than expected to pre season just to impress on the staff, he went to the gym much more but instead Poch felt like Josh gave the wrong impression and came out a bit over confident and cocky. Josh spoke to Poch multiple times in the summer, almost demanding getting a real chance in midfield and Poch got a bit frustrated since he told Josh to be patient, so Josh pushed for a loan move and eventually Poch gave the thumbs up, Josh missed out on 2 Premier League clubs and got a bit mad at that but he accepted a Aston Villa loan move. Bruce and Poch had talked for some times and Bruce is a big Onomah fan. Josh says that he likes it in Birmingham, feels like he’s getting along well with the team mates but is still a bit frustrated because he doesn’t play in his preferred position, when played there at the beginning of the season he felt he did good and was progressing but Bruce prefers him higher up in the pitch because he can hold up the ball well and link up play. Josh said that he will 99% stay at Villa for the rest of the season and has been offered a permanent deal from Villa but he won’t agree to that, Villa has also been talking to Spurs about a permanent deal but we don’t want to sell and we would demand a lot of money. Josh wants to come back in the summer and fight for his place. Poch still sees a future with Josh but they don’t agree on certain things for example his preferred position. Poch doesn’t think he’s ready to play there but Josh disagrees. And Josh feels like he’s earned the chance here and wants to see a clear path for him here. He’s happy for Winks since they’re good mates but sees him as a competitor and he said that Winks was also a bit frustrated at the beginning. All in all Josh will stay at Villa for the rest of the season, sees a future here but is a bit frustrated and wants to get a real chance.

If you don’t believe what I’ve said just ignore me
Sounds about right from what I know. He still hangs with his Kingsmead School buddies. Loads of interest in him from top EPL clubs, and German. I know who they are, but won’t name. McDermott is a massive fan of his, and miles ahead of Winks. They are buddies. Best I say no more.
 
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Sounds about right from what I know. He still hangs with his Kingsmead School buddies. Loads of interest in him from too EPL clubs, and German. I know who they are, but won’t name. McDermott is a massive fan of his, and miles ahead of Winks. They are buddies. Best I say no more.
I was scared that you would disagree and people would hate on me, pheew. I’ve wanted to say some stuff I’ve heard from Josh a long time but haven’t and I still know some things but I won’t say them
 

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I don’t know if I should post this or not since I’m not a ITK and people won’t believe me but I’m going to do it anyways.

I have a cousin who used to live in Enfield and he knows someone that knows someone that is close to Josh. And Josh said that he felt like he get unfairly threatened at times and should’ve got more game time because he felt he 90% of the time he always performed well in training. He used to sometimes after training stay with Mousa Dembele to learn a few things from him, he looked up (still looks up) to him. And Mousa said to him that he’s the closest he’s seen anyone like him in terms of football qualities.
Poch speaks to the academy players from when they’re very young and he has a good relationship with Poch and Josh has multiple times said that he wants to play in the Dembele role but Poch always said that he wasn’t ready and that position is the most risk position. Poch is stubborn and won’t change his opinion quickly, so Onomah suggested for over a year that he should go out on loan but Poch disagreed and Josh got a bit frustrated since he didn’t even get the chance here. But he kept moving on. After the World Cup Josh came back earlier than expected to pre season just to impress on the staff, he went to the gym much more but instead Poch felt like Josh gave the wrong impression and came out a bit over confident and cocky. Josh spoke to Poch multiple times in the summer, almost demanding getting a real chance in midfield and Poch got a bit frustrated since he told Josh to be patient, so Josh pushed for a loan move and eventually Poch gave the thumbs up, Josh missed out on 2 Premier League clubs and got a bit mad at that but he accepted a Aston Villa loan move. Bruce and Poch had talked for some times and Bruce is a big Onomah fan. Josh says that he likes it in Birmingham, feels like he’s getting along well with the team mates but is still a bit frustrated because he doesn’t play in his preferred position, when played there at the beginning of the season he felt he did good and was progressing but Bruce prefers him higher up in the pitch because he can hold up the ball well and link up play. Josh said that he will 99% stay at Villa for the rest of the season and has been offered a permanent deal from Villa but he won’t agree to that, Villa has also been talking to Spurs about a permanent deal but we don’t want to sell and we would demand a lot of money. Josh wants to come back in the summer and fight for his place. Poch still sees a future with Josh but they don’t agree on certain things for example his preferred position. Poch doesn’t think he’s ready to play there but Josh disagrees. And Josh feels like he’s earned the chance here and wants to see a clear path for him here. He’s happy for Winks since they’re good mates but sees him as a competitor and he said that Winks was also a bit frustrated at the beginning. All in all Josh will stay at Villa for the rest of the season, sees a future here but is a bit frustrated and wants to get a real chance.

If you don’t believe what I’ve said just ignore me
Sounds about right from what I know. He still hangs with his Kingsmead School buddies. Loads of interest in him from too EPL clubs, and German. I know who they are, but won’t name. McDermott is a massive fan of his, and miles ahead of Winks. They are buddies. Best I say no more.
These seem very grounded in reality as they follow a logical progression which has led Josh to Villa. With more and more reports coming out, it sure seems Poch is reluctant to give his youth a chance to prove themselves. Josh is the most physically ready mid we have that qualifies as youth and should really be getting some game time, but if Poch continues to hold them back, I can see some wanting to leave.

Josh for me has it all, except for the mental side. He far too often looks disinterested and that is what I think separates him from Winks. Winks is always turned on and is looking to get involved. I have watched a handful of Villa games and if Josh is not in his natural position, he is is sometimes a bystander. He has played some brilliant games for Villa in the Dembele role, but a professional should give there all no matter where they play and that for me has to be the reason Poch isn't fully buying into Josh's place in the squad.

I really hope to see him fight and prove to the manager that he is the one to replace the aging Moose as there is no closer match this close to home.
 

SpartanSpur

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Onomah deserves a chance IMO, very talented and suited to the Dembele role or a 3 man midfield. A year of physicality in the Championship will help. Massive talent, glad he isn't ready to give up on a Spurs career yet.

Would much rather he get CM minutes than Sissoko.
 
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