Ex-Player Watch Player Watch: Mousa Dembele

[rossdapep]

He needs to move on, it genuinely hurts my soul to say that but he can't be relied upon for anymore than 15-20 games a season due to his injuries.

I will say this though, on his day, which there were plenty of, he was the best box to box in the entirety of world football. I don't think that's an overstatement either. If he didn't suffer so many injuries he'd still be one of the first name's on the team sheet for me.

I know what youre saying but I think to be defined the best he needed to be more of a threat in attack. He was probably the best cm in world football on the ball, almost impossible to tackle.

 

[kmk]

He needs to move on, it genuinely hurts my soul to say that but he can't be relied upon for anymore than 15-20 games a season due to his injuries.

I will say this though, on his day, which there were plenty of, he was the best box to box in the entirety of world football. I don't think that's an overstatement either. If he didn't suffer so many injuries he'd still be one of the first name's on the team sheet for me.

I know what youre saying but I think to be defined the best he needed to be more of a threat in attack. He was probably the best cm in world football on the ball, almost impossible to tackle.

Yaya Toure was probably better because he had a better end product.

 

[WiganSpur]

He will go on a free, we would be a bit crazy to give him a new deal at this stage. Wanyama looks to be having similar problems too so I think we will try to shift him in the summer as well.

If Skipp continues to perform then i'd imagine he'll be given a squad spot along with a new signing in midfield to replace them. I'm also wondering if Dier might be dropped back to CB to cover for Toby if he leaves.

 

[JCRD]

My fave player EVER - just sexy as hell with the ball - rarely lost it.

 

[Khilari]

He needs to move on, it genuinely hurts my soul to say that but he can't be relied upon for anymore than 15-20 games a season due to his injuries.

I will say this though, on his day, which there were plenty of, he was the best box to box in the entirety of world football. I don't think that's an overstatement either. If he didn't suffer so many injuries he'd still be one of the first name's on the team sheet for me.

Why? Can't we just keep him even if it is for 15-20 games? Aren't we still more potent and dynamic when he's on the pitch? He may be a great influence on our younger players like Ollie Skipp.

I remember when Liverpool let Gerrard leave and when Chelsea let Lampard leave and thought it was crazy - sure if they want to leave we can do little to stop them, but these phenomenal players have so much to pass on to those around them.

I'll be sad when he leaves but I still think he can do a good job on the pitch for us. His wages don't concern me.

 

[LexingtonSpurs]

Why? Can't we just keep him even if it is for 15-20 games? Aren't we still more potent and dynamic when he's on the pitch? He may be a great influence on our younger players like Ollie Skipp.

I remember when Liverpool let Gerrard leave and when Chelsea let Lampard leave and thought it was crazy - sure if they want to leave we can do little to stop them, but these phenomenal players have so much to pass on to those around them.

I'll be sad when he leaves but I still think he can do a good job on the pitch for us. His wages don't concern me.

Part of the reason is pragmatic - he takes up a non-HG spot that can be used by another player.

 

[Paolo10]

It's Daniel his wages will concern...If he's not getting value for money, Moussa's time is numbered...that is if Levy doesn't ask for stupid money for him.

What's he worth at this stage in this market? £15m?

 

[Khilari]

Part of the reason is pragmatic - he takes up a non-HG spot that can be used by another player.

Oh I see - for a new signing for instance?
Is he keeping someone out at the moment? I can't remember. Presumably the likes of Skipp et al. sneak in anyway as HG?

 

[Khilari]

It's Daniel his wages will concern...If he's not getting value for money, Moussa's time is numbered...that is if Levy doesn't ask for stupid money for him.

What's he worth at this stage in this market? £15m?

I guess the stadium costs will be telling and Levy will be ruthless, as he was in the transfer window over the summer.

 

[dtxspurs]

Oh I see - for a new signing for instance?
Is he keeping someone out at the moment? I can't remember. Presumably the likes of Skipp et al. sneak in anyway as HG?

Foyth is the only player of value to the squad that is left out of the CL roster. However, for next season we would be able to bring in a new non-HG CM if we move him out. Which is what most of us would like to do.

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

I know what youre saying but I think to be defined the best he needed to be more of a threat in attack

You're right. He was literally no threat at all in attack. In over 180 appearances he's managed 7 goals and about the same number of assists. That's a poor return for someone of his undoubted ability. In fact it's just not good enough. Maybe injuries had more of an effect on him than we realise.

 

[LexingtonSpurs]

It's Daniel his wages will concern...If he's not getting value for money, Moussa's time is numbered...that is if Levy doesn't ask for stupid money for him.

What's he worth at this stage in this market? £15m?

not even close...he is out of contract in the summer.

 

[ilya]

His wages are not so big anyway in todays market, so couldn't he be a rotation player? Of course if there's someone else coming, then somebody has to make room, and those who has to be shipped out are Mousa and Vic. But I would happily keep him if he's healthy enough. Imagine bringing him to shield a victory for a last 30 minutes in the games.

 

[dtxspurs]

His wages are not so big anyway in todays market, so couldn't he be a rotation player? Of course if there's someone else coming, then somebody has to make room, and those who has to be shipped out are Mousa and Vic. But I would happily keep him if he's healthy enough. Imagine bringing him to shield a victory for a last 30 minutes in the games.

He's been our worst midfielder IMO out of he, Winks and Sissoko of those who can play the box to box role. Other than for nostalgia there's just no reason to keep him around.

edit: this season.

 

[yido-1989]

He's been our worst midfielder IMO out of he, Winks and Sissoko of those who can play the box to box role. Other than for nostalgia there's just no reason to keep him around.

I’d prefer to keep him around, he can still offer the team something and he’s big part of our team off the pitch, also shows loyalty to long serving players from the club.

 

[@Bobby__Lucky]

He's been our worst midfielder IMO out of he, Winks and Sissoko of those who can play the box to box role. Other than for nostalgia there's just no reason to keep him around.

Ooooh that's harsh, but your opinion is yours.

I think the emergence of winks and Sissoko has shown that dembele whilst previously able to hold the ball for us and bully, the former move the ball quicker and transition quicker, which suits our famous 4 in attack.

Last season dembele was losing the aura of holding down the midfield and was loosing the ball more often and in dangerous areas. Especially the semi last year v utd. Even the best Kings have to die, and for me I think it's best we move on for the sake of moving on with our evolution.

Respect him highly and for loves sake why not give him a free if he desires. He's been a good player we just need more of this quickness through the midfield. Not pace but quick thought, quick feet and quick forward passes. I think we need to change direction slightly to improve that extra inch or two. Individually dembele is one of our most skillful footballer, but in terms of the team play I think he will hold us back.

 

[spids]

He's been our worst midfielder IMO out of he, Winks and Sissoko of those who can play the box to box role. Other than for nostalgia there's just no reason to keep him around.

Massively disagree. And I guess all of the Spurs players do too as pretty much to a man they've all said he's the best player at the club in interviews. Over the last 18 months he's been by far our best CM. His performance away at Juve was one of the best ever CM performances in CL history for me. Yes, he could score and assist more. As could Winks and Sissoko (and Dier and Wanyama). We have Eriksen, Dele, Son, Moura, Lamela and Kane to create and score goals. Dembele controls the middle of the pitch. Injuries and time have caught up with him and sadly it is time to have a succession plan.

 

[t79boy]

You're right. He was literally no threat at all in attack. In over 180 appearances he's managed 7 goals and about the same number of assists. That's a poor return for someone of his undoubted ability. In fact it's just not good enough. Maybe injuries had more of an effect on him than we realise.

Slightly narrow way to view things ... just by looking at those two stats ... if you look at modric’s stats for Madrid he doesn’t score much either ... (not looked up his assists )... should we call him poor too ??
There is a lot more to a football than looking at stats ...

 

[dagraham]

Slightly narrow way to view things ... just by looking at those two stats ... if you look at modric’s stats for Madrid he doesn’t score much either ... (not looked up his assists )... should we call him poor too ??
There is a lot more to a football than looking at stats ...

That is true, but Modric’s passing and creativity is on a different level to Dembele. Modric also scored more goals ( although still not many).

 

[t79boy]

That is true, but Modric’s passing and creativity is on a different level to Dembele. Modric also scored more goals ( although still not many).

I agree but looking at those two stats you will not know that ... secondly have a look at his stats for Madrid and not us ... he scores 1 or 2 goals a season