Player Watch Player Watch: Pedro Porro

[spurmin]

What have you seen, that I haven’t?

Whats been great?

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[spurmin]

Maybe some bright spark can make a song up about him, because according to some on here he can’t defend he can’t attack.
OH wait that was done with Emerson Royal. Look how that turned out.
You fucking melts.

 

[Silky Skills]

He has as many goals as a pair of our strikers each have ...

 

[djhotspur]

Don’t get why people blame porro for the first. Romero points to eriksen overlapping run at Porro so porro steps across to that… Romero then doesn’t stop sancho inside which he should. He was a yard or two too far across, it’s Romero’s fault

 

[djhotspur]

Don’t get why people blame porro for the first. Romero points to eriksen overlapping run at Porro so porro steps across to that… Romero then doesn’t stop sancho inside which he should. He was a yard or two too far across, it’s Romero’s fault

Getting a disagree but I suggest rewatch as I literally just did and tell me your thoughts.

 

[jpascavitz]

Getting a disagree but I suggest rewatch as I literally just did and tell me your thoughts.

I would just blame the collective in the whole sequence. Hojbjerg misses a tackle (iirc), then Skipp gets a piece, and a piece of it again sliding. During that whole process there's no "second defender" helping to hunt down the ball - everyone just watching as Rashford skips away.

They get the ball wide and as you say Eriksen overlaps and just takes Porro away a step and Romero should be there as the second defender but doesn't get tight enough. Sancho with a good finish as well.

But if we're looking at that whole sequence I'm not sitting here and saying wow Porro that is your fault, there was about 5 or 6 things the whole team could have done better in that sequence.

 

[djhotspur]

I would just blame the collective in the whole sequence. Hojbjerg misses a tackle (iirc), then Skipp gets a piece, and a piece of it again sliding. During that whole process there's no "second defender" helping to hunt down the ball - everyone just watching as Rashford skips away.

They get the ball wide and as you say Eriksen overlaps and just takes Porro away a step and Romero should be there as the second defender but doesn't get tight enough. Sancho with a good finish as well.

But if we're looking at that whole sequence I'm not sitting here and saying wow Porro that is your fault, there was about 5 or 6 things the whole team could have done better in that sequence.

Agreed it was the match thread everyone going in so hard on porro who didn’t do anything wrong.
It’s very unlucky before that, skipp slides gets the ball but it somehow bobbles and falls back to rashford.

 

[DJS]

it really depends on the set-up, and not every manager plays a back 3 with the same tactics.

But, under Conte it would not have worked, since he wanted the RCB and LCB to be more aggressive and defend and attack higher up, while the CCB sat a little deeper and was less aggressive.

Another manager could flip those roles - where the CCB played a little further up, and was more aggressive, while the outside CBs played a bit deeper and more conservatively.

Yeah that was my thinking.

Our current set-up is the wide centre backs push up, but I think at Atlanta Romero tended to be central and the other two sat back.

 

[ralphs bald spot]

Getting a disagree but I suggest rewatch as I literally just did and tell me your thoughts.

its dreadful defending by both of them - they have zero understanding of what either of them are doing and in the end they both do nothing - Porro has to push Sancho wide he doesn't he lets him drift inside and neither does Romero who could have engaged the ball or at least one of them should have - Sancho hasn't got a left foot to speak of and we have invited him inside and still didn't close him down - i did wonder if there is a language barrier - total lack of decision making by both of them the defence has no confidence at all and they defend by just being there which ain't enough they are just not tight enough

Porro defensively is all over the place but in his defence its little wonder because the whole defensive unit is shambolic none of them have been taking any responsibility and it gives the opposition time on the ball at least in the second half there was some aggression in the defending which low and behold improved things a bit - Porro might improve with a clearer definition of what his role is in the team and with a defence who are pressurising the opposition a bit his alright going forward but even then his decision making is wayward but again with the side as its there is little cohesion and because there aren't enough options in the midfield in terms of creativity its easier to close down the wide players

verdict - has to be wait and see

 

[Tyler24durden]

Porro looked much better at sporting so I think once he is in a settled unit, with better defenders am around him, he will develop well.

 

[djhotspur]

its dreadful defending by both of them - they have zero understanding of what either of them are doing and in the end they both do nothing - Porro has to push Sancho wide he doesn't he lets him drift inside and neither does Romero who could have engaged the ball or at least one of them should have - Sancho hasn't got a left foot to speak of and we have invited him inside and still didn't close him down - i did wonder if there is a language barrier - total lack of decision making by both of them the defence has no confidence at all and they defend by just being there which ain't enough they are just not tight enough

Porro defensively is all over the place but in his defence its little wonder because the whole defensive unit is shambolic none of them have been taking any responsibility and it gives the opposition time on the ball at least in the second half there was some aggression in the defending which low and behold improved things a bit - Porro might improve with a clearer definition of what his role is in the team and with a defence who are pressurising the opposition a bit his alright going forward but even then his decision making is wayward but again with the side as its there is little cohesion and because there aren't enough options in the midfield in terms of creativity its easier to close down the wide players

verdict - has to be wait and see

Disagree, so you’re saying just ignore the run of eriksen completely? It’s not dreadful defending at all that is so over thf top.
If someone points and tells you to watch the run… you watch the run anyone would. It’s all on ronero who then doesn’t stop him coming inside.
Go back and watch and see if you still have that opinion

 

[Japhet]

Disagree, so you’re saying just ignore the run of eriksen completely? It’s not dreadful defending at all that is so over thf top.
If someone points and tells you to watch the run… you watch the run anyone would. It’s all on ronero who then doesn’t stop him coming inside.
Go back and watch and see if you still have that opinion

Porro and Romero aren't on the same page yet, which is hardly surprising under the circumstances. They're both making mistakes which are compounded by a lack of confidence in each other, but it's very early days yet.

 

[djhotspur]

Porro and Romero aren't on the same page yet, which is hardly surprising under the circumstances. They're both making mistakes which are compounded by a lack of confidence in each other, but it's very early days yet.

I agree with that. It wasn’t the part of was disagreeing with. It takes time to build understanding and rapport, I’m sure it’ll come

 

[eViL]

i did wonder if there is a language barrier

They both speak Spanish.

 

[ralphs bald spot]

Disagree, so you’re saying just ignore the run of eriksen completely? It’s not dreadful defending at all that is so over thf top.
If someone points and tells you to watch the run… you watch the run anyone would. It’s all on ronero who then doesn’t stop him coming inside.
Go back and watch and see if you still have that opinion

the danger was on the ball you have to deal with man on the ball the overlap is almost irrelevant as by then Sancho was already moving inside Porro had done nothing defensively at all - Romero then could have got tighter but its awful by both of them

 

[InOffMeLeftShin]

Don’t get why people blame porro for the first. Romero points to eriksen overlapping run at Porro so porro steps across to that… Romero then doesn’t stop sancho inside which he should. He was a yard or two too far across, it’s Romero’s fault

Yes it’s this. When Romero gets on his heels he does the hands behind the back thing and then really struggles to change direction and cover the space. It happens far too often for a guy with his ability. Flip side he was excellent later in the game when stepping out. Like most of our players we are much better playing on the front foot.

 

[Japhet]

the danger was on the ball you have to deal with man on the ball the overlap is almost irrelevant as by then Sancho was already moving inside Porro had done nothing defensively at all - Romero then could have got tighter but its awful by both of them

They got in a mess, but Porro can't let the wide man just go and Romero shouldn't have let Sancho get across him and onto his good foot. He had to try to keep him on the outside but got caught flat footed. It's a lack of confidence between the 2 of them.

 

[cliff jones]

Took the goal very well and I'll reserve judgement for a little while but...

The guy is clearly an attacking RWB and there were at least 3 or 4 crosses flashed across the face of goal last night that I would've expected an attacking RWB to be on the end of, or at least bust a gut to get to, and he did not.

I know confidence is low and he's probably being cautious due to being fairly shaky defensively since arriving but... if you can't bloody defend, at least effing attack!

Think there's a decent player in there and, if we actually had 3 solid CB's, I'm sure we'd be seeing a lot more from both flanks.

Wishful thinking but next season I'd like us to have a traditional fullback on each side - Royal and a new signing - along with the 2 two attacking wingbacks in Porro & Udogie, which would give us the flexibility of switching between 4 and 5 at the back.

Anyways, I hope the goal gives him a confidence boost and he continue to see more from him.

He’s had some shit games so far but not last night- walob

He scored an excellent goal, and provided a great set up for Son in the first half, but he squandered a straightforward assist.

Perisic also blazed a cross past everyone including PP when he was in a good position.

Son’s positioning for those crosses from the left was poor, overshooting the near post at least twice

 

[ralphs bald spot]

They got in a mess, but Porro can't let the wide man just go and Romero shouldn't have let Sancho get across him and onto his good foot. He had to try to keep him on the outside but got caught flat footed. It's a lack of confidence between the 2 of them.

but he lets him go anyway he doesn't go with overlap and he isn't in a position to defend it anyway but thats not the problem Sancho can't play the ball there anyway given his body shape so the only danger is coming inside and neither get near him

all about opinions though at the end of the day and I do agree they got into a mess

 

[miles_64]

They both speak Spanish.

Yeah, this comment made me chuckle.