Poch's legacy?

[Paq]

Our business model is based on player development. Our training centre is among the best in the world and we have an excellent academy. We also have a modern, knowledgable department for identifying players with the correct profile for the club. Clearly, we are focused on long-term, sustainable success.

With this in mind, should we be doing more to develop our own coaches? Should we be aiming for a model which sees the first team coach promoted from within? Thanks to Poch, we're developing a real identity and his ideas are being embedded throughout the club. Having some up and coming coaches learning from him would be no bad thing.

Clearly, we simply want the best staff at the club but I'm definitely attracted to a continuity of Poch's philosophies once he inevitibly departs. Could cultivating his ideas amongst our coaches be his real legacy?

 

[Lilbaz]

Our business model is based on player development. Our training centre is among the best in the world and we have an excellent academy. We also have a modern, knowledgable department for identifying players with the correct profile for the club. Clearly, we are focused on long-term, sustainable success.

With this in mind, should we be doing more to develop our own coaches? Should we be aiming for a model which sees the first team coach promoted from within? Thanks to Poch, we're developing a real identity and his ideas are being embedded throughout the club. Having some up and coming coaches learning from him would be no bad thing.

Clearly, we simply want the best staff at the club but I'm definitely attracted to a continuity of Poch's philosophies once he inevitibly departs. Could cultivating his ideas amongst our coaches be his real legacy?

Sounds good. I wouldn't mind our youth team coaches getting promoted to poch's backroom staff and finally taking over the role. But would the fans respect them? Would the players?

They'd have to start winning very quickly as our fans will be quick to turn on them.

 

[Mullers]

It's to early for all that, this is a guy still learning his trade. He has to show that he can create side capable of concentrating on more than one competition and not collapse at the end of the season ,twice that has happened. Let's see how we compete if United, City and Chelsea perform better this season.

 

[Paq]

It's to early for all that, this is a guy still learning his trade. He has to show that he can create side capable of concentrating on more than one competition and not collapse at the end of the season ,twice that has happened. Let's see how we compete if United, City and Chelsea perform better this season.

Tbf, it isn't too early for anything - no ones suggesting we erect a statue of him.

We fell away last season but I think we're probably ahead of schedule as regards Poch's project and we can see the impact of his philosophies of hard work, intensity, fitness, strong mentality and constant improvement. These things will never go out of fashion in my view. We should ensure they stick around the club for as long as possible.

 

[Mullers]

Tbf, it isn't too early for anything - no ones suggesting we erect a statue of him.

We fell away last season but I think we're probably ahead of schedule as regards Poch's project and we can see the impact of his philosophies of hard work, intensity, fitness, strong mentality and constant improvement. These things will never go out of fashion in my view. We would ensure they stick around the club for as long as possible.

If Poch is not successful, we will employ someone else and that person will have his own ideas, it's highly unlikely that the board will take a chance on an unproven first team coach.

 

[Tucker]

Far too early to be talking about his legacy. We won't know what his legacy is until he's either been here for a decade, or he's been gone for a year or two.

 

[Hoops]

Id rather he stayed for 10 or 20 years

 

[not_tenth-again]

Legacy.. isn't that what you have on reflection....?

I'll let him leave Spurs or retire before I start contemplating his legacy

 

[Lilbaz]

A trophy or two would be nice.

 

[Paq]

We can wait and see what Poch's legacy is, of course, but we can equally help shape that. It's short sighted to say 'let's wait and see'. We have a young, talented manager who is promoting all the qualities we want at the club. We're seeing early success. We should be embedding those ideas into our DNA and ensuring that they become the Tottenham way.

Right now we're not just seeing success on the pitch. We're witnessing a harmony throughout the club that comes from a shared vision and a belief in what we're doing. Levy, Poch, McDermott - the playing and coaching staff. We can try and recreate that everytime we need to hire a manager or we can cultivate it and attempt to create what we need. It's the ultimate model of sustainability, which is what we're striving for alongside on field success.

 

[guiltyparty]

I like him - got the avatar to prove it - but this is silly early. People don't half wet their trousers early these days. Sad how used to short relationships we've become. We're like that desperate clingy girl who is so keen for it to all be ok.

I'd love to come back and see the same people's comments at the end of the season

 

[StartingPrice]

I like him - got the avatar to prove it - but this is silly early. People don't half wet their trousers early these days. Sad how used to short relationships we've become. We're like that desperate clingy girl who is so keen for it to all be ok.

I'd love to come back and see the same people's comments at the end of the season

True. But you can't blame folk. We live in a culture where anyone whose managed to hitch on to the Gravy Train in any way, even if they are just surfing off the drips on the end, brings out an autobiography after their first 3 seconds of success, and then publishes a new one every three weeks until they kick the bucket.

 

[adamsky]

Legacies in the terms you are talking about are very rare in the modern game, I can barely think of one. Look at Utd when Fergie left, if he couldn't create one what chance anyone else?

 

[Paq]

@JonnySpurs has just posted a great article which illustrates my thinking on this.

We have finally found a manager who is 'the real deal' (in my view). He's tactically astute but more importantly promotes hard work, intensity, fitness, strong mentality and constant improvement. How can anyone argue against embedding these qualities throughout the club and bringing up our players and coaches to believe in these philosophies?

The use of the word 'legacy' seems to have scared some people. Hopefully, those at the club have a little more recognition of the fact that we're on the cusp of something special at Spurs. Hopefully, they'll be more proactive in ensuring that successful ideas stick around for longer than Poch does.

 

[carlito]

Didn't we try this already with Sherwood , he was brought in by Redknapp and was groomed for the top job , he didn't really work out .

I know AVB came in between but when that failed they tried replicating the redknapp mould with Tim .

 

[Spurs1960]

Our business model is based on player development. Our training centre is among the best in the world and we have an excellent academy. We also have a modern, knowledgable department for identifying players with the correct profile for the club. Clearly, we are focused on long-term, sustainable success.

With this in mind, should we be doing more to develop our own coaches? Should we be aiming for a model which sees the first team coach promoted from within? Thanks to Poch, we're developing a real identity and his ideas are being embedded throughout the club. Having some up and coming coaches learning from him would be no bad thing.

Clearly, we simply want the best staff at the club but I'm definitely attracted to a continuity of Poch's philosophies once he inevitibly departs. Could cultivating his ideas amongst our coaches be his real legacy?

What gives you the idea our coaches aren't being developed? Pochettino and his staff recently went to a sports science centre in Doha.

 

[Spurs1960]

@JonnySpurs has just posted a great article which illustrates my thinking on this.

We have finally found a manager who is 'the real deal' (in my view). He's tactically astute but more importantly promotes hard work, intensity, fitness, strong mentality and constant improvement. How can anyone argue against embedding these qualities throughout the club and bringing up our players and coaches to believe in these philosophies?

The use of the word 'legacy' seems to have scared some people. Hopefully, those at the club have a little more recognition of the fact that we're on the cusp of something special at Spurs. Hopefully, they'll be more proactive in ensuring that successful ideas stick around for longer than Poch does.

You seem to have missed the point that Danie Levy has been searching for a coach who could actually improve players and make a difference in the first place, Now he has found him. This is what the club have been searching for, Pochettino isn't here by accident and we have accidentally changed the club mentality. It has been initiated higher than Pochettino, but there is plenty that can be done with coach development, especially with former players.

 

[Paq]

You seem to have missed the point that Danie Levy has been searching for a coach who could actually improve players and make a difference in the first place, Now he has found him. This is what the club have been searching for, Pochettino isn't here by accident and we have accidentally changed the club mentality. It has been initiated higher than Pochettino, but there is plenty that can be done with coach development, especially with former players.

I'm sure it isn't an accident - Levy has been searching for his man for some time and has now found him, that's kind of my point. Now we have the main piece in place we should be building on that. There is work that can be done re coach development and that's what I was asking about - what is happening in this area? Are we working to create our own coaches, possibly even future first team coaches?

It's great to hear that Poch and his coaches were recently at the conference in Doha. Anyone know more about this? I'm interested to know what our approach to coach development is, especially given our focus on player development.