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Mornstar

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Why?

I don't think they really go to improve those countries, they can just exploit them for a bigger slice of the pie. England deserves to host another World Cup and we've contributed more to the game. I don't see why it needs to be so political?

Qatar should never have been an option, the whole thing is a disgrace.

Why? The entire middle east is football crazy and with their vast resources are actually better positioned to host the event than your Brazils or South Africas.
 

JerryGarcia

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Why? The entire middle east is football crazy and with their vast resources are actually better positioned to host the event than your Brazils or South Africas.

It's also too bloody hot and they use disposable slave labour to build the venues. Sorry but the cost of human lives just isn't worth it for anything, let alone a game.

Did the World Cup in South Africa do anything for the country in the long term or did the sponsors make their money and move on? I don't actually know the answer but If anything good did come out of it I must have missed it.

After a quick google...

http://money.cnn.com/2014/06/09/investing/world-cup-south-africa-brazil/
As the soccer world descends on Brazil for the 2014 World Cup this week, disillusionment over the last tournament still lingers in South Africa.
The 2010 World Cup boosted tourism and national pride, but it's clear the economic benefits failed to live up to the hype and came at a very high price. Many now see Africa's first ever World Cup as a squandered opportunity.


"There's certainly been a benefit -- but at what cost?" said Johan Fourie, an economics professor at Stellenbosch University in South Africa.

Sounds like they got a few building projects such as railways built faster than they would have but otherwise but that article doesn't paint a great picture.
 

Gassin's finest

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Sorry mustard but I think you're being unfair by ignoring the very next sentence. I fully agree with him...it is all about taking the game to countries which haven't had the chance to stage something so big before. I have an issue with Blatter and co taking bungs but as far as awarding the world cup to countries such as south Africa, Russia and Qatar is concerned, I have absolutely no problems.
Don't be soft, what footballing history do Qatar have, and what legacy is actually going to be left there? Not to mention the appalling human rights issues involved in the hosting and preparation for this world cup.
 
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Mornstar

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Don't be soft, what footballing history do Qatar have, and what legacy is actually going to be left there? Not to mention tue appalling human rights issues involved in the hosting and preparation for this world cup.
What footballing history did USA have back in 94? Time will tell what legacy a world cup leaves for Qatar and the middle east....just because the Brazilian authorities were corrupt and failed to maximise the benefits doesn't mean Qatar will take the same route. If anything, their investment in PSG and barca shows they are serious about promoting the game. There some 200 plus countries in the world, I challenge you to list more than 10 (that haven't already staged a world cup) that do not have human right abuse issues hanging over them. Going by your criteria, the world.cup should always be hosted by europe or north america?!
 

nailsy

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Did FIFA say from the outset that they were only going to consider nations that hadn't already hosted a world cup? I guess the FA missed that memo. I bet Platini still has a copy though.
 

alfie103

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What footballing history did USA have back in 94? Time will tell what legacy a world cup leaves for Qatar and the middle east....just because the Brazilian authorities were corrupt and failed to maximise the benefits doesn't mean Qatar will take the same route. If anything, their investment in PSG and barca shows they are serious about promoting the game. There some 200 plus countries in the world, I challenge you to list more than 10 (that haven't already staged a world cup) that do not have human right abuse issues hanging over them. Going by your criteria, the world.cup should always be hosted by europe or north america?!

The main thing which irritates me is the corrupt way their bid won and then the subsequent change to winter. It was just obviously corrupt and they were so determined not to admit they were wrong, they then change when the tournament would be staged.
 

Mustard

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Why? The entire middle east is football crazy and with their vast resources are actually better positioned to host the event than your Brazils or South Africas.


Have you been to the Middle East?

What makes you say they are football crazy? I've been. They certainly didnt strike me as football crazy.

Your 'Brazil's' and 'South Africa's' were fundamentally ripped off by FIFA to the tune of billions.

Wake up.
 
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BehindEnemyLines

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Don't be soft, what footballing history do Qatar have, and what legacy is actually going to be left there? Not to mention tue appalling human rights issues involved in the hosting and preparation for this world cup.
It'll be like Escape to Victory in all those slave labour camps!
 

Mornstar

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Have you been to the Middle East?

What makes you say they are football crazy? I've been. They certainly didnt strike me as football crazy.

I lived there as an expat for nearly 5 years!

Oh and im wide awake and can put personal prejudice aside when trying to form an opinion.
 

Mornstar

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Have you been to the Middle East?

What makes you say they are football crazy? I've been. They certainly didnt strike me as football crazy.

I lived there as an expat for nearly 5 years!

Oh and im wide awake and can put personal prejudice aside when trying to form an opinion.
 

TheHoddleWaddle

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I lived there as an expat for nearly 5 years!

Oh and im wide awake and can put personal prejudice aside when trying to form an opinion.

Alright. Heard you the first time! ;)

This WC doesn't sit right with me. For all the reasons above. I also fail to see how it will generate a footballing 'legacy'. Will it generate loads of new slave built stadiums for oil rich billionaires to set up world class football teams? I'm sure that will really help the middle east and the local people.

Bet it will be a hoot in Saudi, they could have half time beheadings.
 

Mustard

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I lived there as an expat for nearly 5 years!

Oh and im wide awake and can put personal prejudice aside when trying to form an opinion.

So many games if football did you see being played by the chubby local kids? How many football pitches did you see?

There is no culture of football there and never will be. You might as well say handball or basketball should have their respective finals there too. They get the same amount of coverage.
 

Mustard

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I lived there as an expat for nearly 5 years!

Oh and im wide awake and can put personal prejudice aside when trying to form an opinion.
So how many games did you see being played by the chubby local kids? How many pitches did you see?

Any female participants? How big were the crowds at this, according to you, Mecca of football?

You might as well hold the basketball and handball world finals there too. They get as much coverage as football.

There is no football culture there and never will be.
 

Gassin's finest

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What footballing history did USA have back in 94? Time will tell what legacy a world cup leaves for Qatar and the middle east....just because the Brazilian authorities were corrupt and failed to maximise the benefits doesn't mean Qatar will take the same route. If anything, their investment in PSG and barca shows they are serious about promoting the game. There some 200 plus countries in the world, I challenge you to list more than 10 (that haven't already staged a world cup) that do not have human right abuse issues hanging over them. Going by your criteria, the world.cup should always be hosted by europe or north america?!

Get a grip.
 

TheHoddleWaddle

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What footballing history did USA have back in 94? Time will tell what legacy a world cup leaves for Qatar and the middle east....just because the Brazilian authorities were corrupt and failed to maximise the benefits doesn't mean Qatar will take the same route. If anything, their investment in PSG and barca shows they are serious about promoting the game. There some 200 plus countries in the world, I challenge you to list more than 10 (that haven't already staged a world cup) that do not have human right abuse issues hanging over them. Going by your criteria, the world.cup should always be hosted by europe or north america?!

196 actually. 195 if you discount Taiwan (which does operate independently)
 
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