Match Ratings Ratings vs Fulham

[mr ashley]

I haven’t avoided answering the question. I said it’s both - he didn’t get sufficient protection, but even allowing for that he was still crap, and I gave a good example of his crapness that couldn’t be blamed on the RW

Whatever, we’re going at cross purposes here I feel and I’ve certainly no interest in continuing this, because I don’t want to pigeonholed as a Doherty fanboy.

I just felt ,for once, some of the criticism on here over his performance was unwarranted and showed lack of understanding of team play.

I pointed something similar out after the first goal we conceded against Liverpool when people blamed aurier for letting mane run when he was actually marking Robertson.

But if we’re just looking for a Doherty pile-on I’ll leave everyone to it

 

[anydange]

Good result albeit totally undeserved. Fulham bossed us in the 2nd half and that VAR decision was atrocious.

Better finishing (again) and it might have been more comfortable.

Really like Andersen, seems like a quality ball player. Wouldn't mind someone like him in the squad over Dier.

 

[Thenewcat]

Whatever, we’re going at cross purposes here I feel and I’ve certainly no interest in continuing this, because I don’t want to pigeonholed as a Doherty fanboy.

I just felt ,for once, some of the criticism on here over his performance was unwarranted and showed lack of understanding of team play.

I pointed something similar out after the first goal we conceded against Liverpool when people blamed aurier for letting mane run when he was actually marking Robertson.

But if we’re just looking for a Doherty pile-on I’ll leave everyone to it

I’m not interested in a Doherty pile on- I want him to do well. To be honest, I’m baffled by how poor he’s been - as I said elsewhere you can’t explain it away as ‘he’s a wing back not a full back’ because to me all parts of his game are substandard at the moment. I honestly thought he was crap again last night, and can only attribute it to a massive loss in confidence. I wouldn’t play him ahead of Aurier or Tangana at the moment but I’d be delighted to see him turn things around

 

[ralvy]

Lamelas performance actually typifies what he brings to the team.
I think that was his best performance in terms of passin, and his workrate is always impressive.
Lost me a bet to my son by not getting booked but nevermind

But I think he is becoming our ‘closer’. The player who comes on to replace tired legs and move us up the pitch.
he’s good, but not a starter

He definitely could be our Mariano Rivera (baseball reference for you Europeans), but he's not a bad option to start games every now and then, and specially against our fiercest rivals. I say this based on the fact that he's had MOtMish performances against the likes of Barcelona, City, Chelsea and Juve as a starter (well, can't remember anymore if he actually started that match at Turin, but I remember it being a sublime performance of his).

 

[Thenewcat]

Good result albeit totally undeserved. Fulham bossed us in the 2nd half and that VAR decision was atrocious.

Better finishing (again) and it might have been more comfortable.

Really like Andersen, seems like a quality ball player. Wouldn't mind someone like him in the squad over Dier.

It wasn’t totally undeserved. We created the better chances but conceded the initiative in the second half. VARs decision wasn’t atrocious- they correctly applied an atrocious law - but they should have given us a pen in the first half. My issue with Andersen is whether he’s a good enough defender. Having someone who can step out from the back would be a great compliement to Hojbjerg and Ndombele but genuinely not sure if he’s secure enough

 

[mr_spurs961]

Majority of the scores so far are way to high.

This!
We looked pathetic for too much of the game vs one of worst teams in the League!
Lamella was a breath of fresh air, but otherwise we were playing to be beaten. With the lead, we should’ve been running Fulham ragged. How many years of experience was on that pitch for us?

 

[archiewasking]

Thought the CBs were great. Sanchez just pips Toby. 2 in a row for the lad from me.

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

This!
We looked pathetic for too much of the game vs one of worst teams in the League!
Lamella was a breath of fresh air, but otherwise we were playing to be beaten. With the lead, we should’ve been running Fulham ragged. How many years of experience was on that pitch for us?

That just isn't true.

 

[sammyj]

Very impressed with scotty Parker

 

[SpursSince1980]

That just isn't true.

Agreed. Some perspective is needed here, for full context:

Fulham have played 27 games. They have won 4, lost 12, and have drawn 11.
They have scored 21 goals and conceded 33.

Draws:
They are tied with the most draws (11), with Brighton.
Goals Conceded:
Goals conceded in the 12th best in the league. (Everton have conceded 33, Liverpool 35, UTD 32, Foxes 31, West Ham 31). All of the aforementioned are in the top 7.

They're actually had a fairly similar season to Brighton (statistically speaking).

I can't recall too many games where they've been taken apart.

I can recall many games where they have held their own, and gone toe-to-toe against just about every team in the league.

Are they an unlucky team? Maybe. Or just a team that lacks a bit more quality in attack, that could help them be more clinical in terms of chances created and chances taken.

It's a disservice to say they're crap. They're not.

Based on some of the games we've played this season, I rate them higher than a few of the teams above them. Including, Newcastle, Burnley, Palace and even Leeds. (Yes, the former has done well(ish) this season, but they're gonna experience a Sheff Utd next season, when everyone in the league has them properly figured out, unless they make some changes).

I can't quite buy into this notion that we should have destroyed them at Craven Cottage. And the fact that we didn't is yet more proof of how poorly coached the players are, or how poor the players are.

It was a tough game. Period.

We won. Get over it.

 

[mr ashley]

It wasn’t totally undeserved. We created the better chances but conceded the initiative in the second half. VARs decision wasn’t atrocious- they correctly applied an atrocious law - but they should have given us a pen in the first half. My issue with Andersen is whether he’s a good enough defender. Having someone who can step out from the back would be a great compliement to Hojbjerg and Ndombele but genuinely not sure if he’s secure enough

I think the issue with Andersen is his lack of pace. His distribution is top notch

 

[SpursSince1980]

I think the issue with Andersen is his lack of pace. His distribution is top notch

Wonder why he was loaned to Fulham?

 

[double0]

I think the issue with Andersen is his lack of pace. His distribution is top notch

We did not see his defensive side because we conceded possession, his pace is questionable from what I saw. He basically stood out because he made about 5 diagonal passes

 

[Ashley1974]

I think the issue with Andersen is his lack of pace. His distribution is top notch

Wonder why he was loaned to Fulham?

We did not see his defensive side because we conceded possession, his pace is questionable from what I saw. He basically stood out because he made about 5 diagonal passes

All great points. His cross field diagonal passes were Toby like ( and we have utilised that tactics under our last 2 managers) so we could do with replacing that skill set. However, more importantly they would need to be a bloody good defender!

I saw we were linked with him the day after. Not sure the reliability of the source though, so not worth linking.

I will watch him with more interest for the rest of the season.

How old is he? If he’s young enough then he can develop more

 

[mr ashley]

All great points. His cross field diagonal passes were Toby like ( and we have utilised that tactics under our last 2 managers) so we could do with replacing that skill set. However, more importantly they would need to be a bloody good defender!

I saw we were linked with him the day after. Not sure the reliability of the source though, so not worth linking.

I will watch him with more interest for the rest of the season.

How old is he? If he’s young enough then he can develop more

We were linked to him when he was at sampdoria.
So I’m sure he was offered to us when Lyon loaned him out to Fulham and we passed.

But although inconvenient to the story that Fulham battered us, if we allow ourselves to remember the first half, we created numerous scoring chances that he was unable to prevent.
Personally I don’t think he’s the defender we need, his lack of recovery pace would prevent us from playing on the front foot too often

 

[Ashley1974]

We were linked to him when he was at sampdoria.
So I’m sure he was offered to us when Lyon loaned him out to Fulham and we passed.

But although inconvenient to the story that Fulham battered us, if we allow ourselves to remember the first half, we created numerous scoring chances that he was unable to prevent.
Personally I don’t think he’s the defender we need, his lack of recovery pace would prevent us from playing on the front foot too often

yeah actually you’re right. We have enough young potential CBs, what we need is that 1 top drawer Toby replacement a la Skriniar

 

[mr ashley]

yeah actually you’re right. We have enough young potential CBs, what we need is that 1 top drawer Toby replacement a la Skriniar

Tbh I’m more interested in our ITK about denayer.

no doubt the varane links will hot up based on mourinhos history with him, which wouldn’t be terrible.
I’m sure there will be others who become available too- skriniar possibly if inters backers are in financial trouble.

The summer market will be an interesting one for sure