Match Ratings Ratings vs Palace

[Strikeb4ck]

Don't think anyone played poorly tbh. Bad setup from Mourinho and the "defend like your life depends on it as soon as you have a one goal lead" approach is laughable against these lesser teams. We played very well at 0-0 and 1-1. The players were asked to drop very deep and offer nothing at 1-0. I'm not going to judge them on that period because defending the likes of Benteke and Zaha is not easy if you're going to offer the other team all of the ball. Jose cost us today, not the players.

 

[Gareth88]

Knew it would be a banana skin of a game and we stepped right on it

 

[chas vs dave]

Did we drop back, or were we pushed back by palace? Tough game, we would have had more, had it not been for this guy

 

[neilp]

Did we drop back, or were we pushed back by palace? Tough game, we would have had more, had it not been for this guy

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That looks like an Inspector Gadget arm.

 

[chas vs dave]

That looks like an Inspector Gadget arm.

Do you think opening his jaw released an extra 2 inches of arm? ?

 

[chrissivad]

Hugo needs a pair of his gloves.
The ball wasn't sticking to his gloves today.

 

[JimmyG2]

Took our foot of their throat.
They got up and bit us in the bum.
Too much skill in Zaha and Eze
and the strength of Benteke
to give them the freedom of the park.

Mind you in the recent past
we would have lost that.

Come on Fulham. Save José´s blushes.

 

[Athenspur]

There has barely been one game where we were on the front foot and outplayed the opponent in the EPL. No matter who it was we faced. This kind of tactics is fine against bigger opponents, but we`ll keep dropping points to lesser teams, even when we get the lead. That's three times now: Newcastle, West Ham, Crystal Palace.
The 4-3-3 with two wingers and an undermanned midfield looks ridiculous in situations like today. Mourinho blames his players for not having more control of the game but it was more his fault than anyone's. Again.

 

[TEESSIDE1]

I just cant blame the players for this - I thought Sissoko and PHE played well as did Aurier and Toby - Jose needs to reconsider how he does things

Despite having an abundance of depth in our squad the options just weren’t there today. No Bale, Vinicius or Lamela.

Alli has been left out most of the season and did next to nothing when he came on.

Moura for all his hard work offers very little offensive threat.

Lo Celso’s a quality player but he’s not going to lift the whole team when they’re misfiring.

Had any of the 3 missing players been on the bench then I think we would have seen earlier changes.

Despite the depth of our squad we’re still missing another quality central midfielder and a clinical wide forward.

 

[whitesocks]

Sissoko motm

Did well considering he was on a yellow for much of the game.

 

[chas vs dave]

Despite having an abundance of depth in our squad the options just weren’t there today. No Bale, Vinicius or Lamela.

Alli has been left out most of the season and did next to nothing when he came on.

He was on for 6 minutes. He won a crucial tackle when palace were breaking. He also won the foul for diers free kick.

Bit harsh, imo

 

[InOffMeLeftShin]

Unfortunately this is as much of a learning lesson as the West Ham game. Following the west ham game we learnt to be a lot tighter defensively, hopefully following this one we will learn not to back off after going a goal up. We need more.

It’s a game I would have loved to have seen Tanguy takeover and dictate the play but he was pretty careless and just didn’t impose himself. He was our poorest midfielder (outside of that instinctive rabona pass before he came off) and when that happens we just look flat. It’s not all on him of course but it’s just the kind of game he needs to step up.

Kane was probably motm, couple of nice flicks that didn’t result in anything.

Shame

 

[Bulletspur]

Despite what others accepting this result say, we should not have lost that game that is why I am pissed. I have seen us lose games where I still applause because we did every thing correct but score more than the other team.

This performance and tactics was not the one to be played against Palace.

Under Poch's tactics we win this game easily, but, I will concede and say that applied across the teams we have played so far we would not be on top of the table.

So it goes to say I believe that as pragmatic as Jose's tactics are where we are top, there still comes a time to be expansive. This game against Palace was one of them

I posted this in the Match Thread

 

[SpursSince1980]

Most of the boys played at a 7 in the first half and a 5 in the second.

I know many want to blame the tactics, but I see that as a simplification, potentially agenda driven?

Palace are not a shit team. They played well in the 2nd half. And their goalkeeper made three insane saves. The goal they did score came from a mistake. Yes, we got pinned too far back, but you also need to pin some of this on the players. They were very static in the second half. There was hardly any movement, when someone would get the ball. And the Palace defense and midfield just wanted it more.

And we got complacent and fearful. Perfect example, is a moment when Reggie gets the ball at the halfway line and attempts a 10 foot pass to an open Son, but instead kicks it out of play. In front of a rather irate Jose. That was sloppy. Not tactics. The free kick that led to their goal was sloppy, not tactics.

The player were perfectly capable of stepping it up...

The evidence of this can be seen in the last 8 mins. Suddenly everyone was moving and attacking with purpose. We could have scored twice in those eight mins. It’s not like the coach suddenly said, ‘oi, everyone start going forward’. They just woke up.

Yes, Jose was late reacting to what was unwinding in the 2nd half. And the team have just played three PL games that required immense defensive discipline. So, Jose is to blame, in the sense that he wasn’t able to get his boys to keep their foot on the pedal after they went up. It was like they couldn’t help themselves, but sit back.

So, I just don’t go for this blame the manager or the players or the chairman for an away draw to Palace on shitty rainy day. Everyone could have done better and step it up. But, just wasn’t their day.

Oh well. Guess we’ll just have to make do with still being atop the league for the second week running.

 

[Spurs 1961]

Similar game to all the others. Huge luck with the Kane goal but not the usual genius goals form him and Son. Meanwhile we ran into a goalkeeper who ... OK one huge mistake ... did his job brilliantly. Our luck ran out, you can’t keep blocking eventually you will at least get a deflection or two. We have had a good run winning with no shots and no possession so I guess it’s the law
of averages. Shame really as there is likely to be just five points between the top ten ... two defeats and a team tumbles down the table. Let’s hope that Liverpool and others continue to have injury problems etc.

meanwhile motm is a hard one. Maybe PEM. I notice though how much better Southampton seem to be this season, how much more expansive and dangerous they are.

 

[jonnyp]

Did we drop back, or were we pushed back by palace? Tough game, we would have had more, had it not been for this guy

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What a save, earned his wages this week.

 

[ralphs bald spot]

Best player on the pitch for us was Sissokko - you have to give Palace some credit they made it really hard as you would expect they never gave us time on the ball they never gave us a way out. We couldn't get Kane or Son on the ball and the full backs couldn't get up the pitch they forced that, it was not a tactical decision imo. I

As soon as they scored a point was a good result for them and suddenly they were sitting and we could have nicked it and apart from 2 great saves would have done. Of course its frustrating but there two teams in a game

I thought that Eze who we looked at looked a good player -

 

[ralphs bald spot]

Despite having an abundance of depth in our squad the options just weren’t there today. No Bale, Vinicius or Lamela.

Alli has been left out most of the season and did next to nothing when he came on.

Moura for all his hard work offers very little offensive threat.

Lo Celso’s a quality player but he’s not going to lift the whole team when they’re misfiring.

Had any of the 3 missing players been on the bench then I think we would have seen earlier changes.

Despite the depth of our squad we’re still missing another quality central midfielder and a clinical wide forward.

Don't agree with that I thought that Lo Celso did ok its difficult to come on when the tide is against us. Not sure what Dele is really supposed to do in 10 minutes I thought he did ok, infact when he went back half the length of the pitch and made potentially a match saving tackle I thought Mourinho might have been quite impressed by that. Moura has never let Spurs down and works his socks off when he gets out there

If anything today we probably needed to avoid the press which they did really well stopping the Spurs out ball to the full backs and try to push them a bit deeper by playing long which isn't really in our make up

 

[cozzo]

But for their keeper we would have scored at least three goals

 

[carpediem991]

I keep reading Holjbjerg and I still dont know where people get the l from....

No one was really above 6 or maybe 7. I vote for Alderweireld, thought he was good.