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Spursbabe63

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I for one have always liked Harry and still do...I still want him as our manager...Tonight's interview I thought he did really well . Gary Lineker is more intelligent conversation wise than the whole of SSN reporter's full stop!!

Yes he admitted that he would've gone, but he also said he likes the daily routine of the running of the club, interacting with the lads on a daily basis, which he would miss if he took the England job.

But it doesn't matter what the bloke says ' good or bad' he is getting slated for it....Give the guy a break!
 

Mr Pink

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Harry handled that pretty well and came across a lot better IMO. But that was definitely prepared, he wanted to come across like that - probably under advisement.
 

rich75

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Not that you don't have a point, but if that's the case then how come whenever he gives an interview we get 16 threads teling us what a **** he is?

I'm not sure how you're approaching this because I don't know if you're one of those who regularly beat him up about any comments he's made, so i'm not aiming this specifically at you RJ, but if you are right and actions speak louder than words and its not what Harry says, then the threads complaining every time he so much as snores in his sleep should stop, or are the comments only applicable THIS TIME because there's not much wrong in the content of his interview to complain about?

It can't be both ways can it?

Truth be told there's never an awful lot wrong with the content of his interviews. If you look at what he says in a totally detached way then often as not he's either right or got a decent point. Case in point, the Sky interview recently that spawned an enormous thread slating him :

CL football isn't as important as a good contract, a decent wage and the club showing ambition - pretty much all of that is borne out by players signing for Chelsea or City a couple of years back or even that bizarre lot in Russia , Anzhak or whatever they're called.

Clubs don't let decent players enter the last year of their contact without offering a new one so why would they let a decent manager do the same - well it's a pretty bald statement but it's not wrong.

It's not great for the players if they know the manager only has a year left and hasn't been offered a contract - pretty much true, new players who are thinking of signing may be concerned that the guy who wanted to sign them will be gone in a year and they may not be liked by the new manager. Players who like the current manager will maybe wonder what direction the club is going in if the manager they like is apparently not rated by the club. Where's the difference between his statement during the England manager job situation that the players didn't care whether he was going to be there next year or not and this apparent shift of position that they do find it important? Well, at the time there were no new signings coming in as it was outside of the transfer window so that bit can be discounted. The second part, the club wasn't trying to get rid of him or showing a lack of faith in him by not offering a new contract. The context is different, players wouldn't worry so much about the direction the club was going in as it wasn't a matter instigated by the club. Not to mention that at the time the club were clear in 3rd and still in with a ( very ) speculative shout of 2nd. If the manager were to leave for the national job they would have thought that the club would be in a highly attractive position to attract a good new manager who would by and large continue what Redknapp had started. The club wouldn't be seeking a change of direction because they didn't actually want one, therefore the players job security would have been a little bit higher regardless of the new manager.

Point is, Redknapp may not think of all the implications of what he's saying in terms of fans or the club hierarchy but there's often not a lot factually wrong about what he says. That's not to say he couldn't do with a bit of empathy training or learning when the truth isn't actually the most helpful thing to say.
 

guiltyparty

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Incredible probing from Lineker. He wouldn't have done that for the manager of any other club, bit of vested interest. Can't imagine him being so bold with Fergie or Mancini
 

RJ1882

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Not that you don't have a point, but if that's the case then how come whenever he gives an interview we get 16 threads teling us what a **** he is?

I'm not sure how you're approaching this because I don't know if you're one of those who regularly beat him up about any comments he's made, so i'm not aiming this specifically at you RJ, but if you are right and actions speak louder than words and its not what Harry says, then the threads complaining every time he so much as snores in his sleep should stop, or are the comments only applicable THIS TIME because there's not much wrong in the content of his interview to complain about?

It can't be both ways can it?

I'm not a Harry hater, I've thoroughly enjoyed his tenure as our manager. I did however want him
gone this summer ale Rodgers brought in. I thought after last seasons collapse Harry deserved one more year to put it right. He did to a degree, but it was a glorious failure.
Now Rodgers has gone I'm not overly fussed about any other manager we could possibly attract. Next season all of pep, Jose and Carlo could be available. While its unlikely we'd attract the first two, Ancelloti is a possibility.

I do think Harry gets some ridiculous abuse. It's because there are a lot of sharp eyed people picking up on him constantly contradicting himself in the pres. IIts obvious there are divisions both at board and player level with Harry, and that isn't going to go away over night. So for the good of the club I'd suggest redknapp going is the best option for the club, but I can't whole heartedly say you I'd like to replace him.
 

talkshowhost86

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So I didn't see this live but it sounds like Harry has backtracked on his previous position of being glad that Levy's mother had died because it strengthened his bargaining position. Is this correct or should I not have taken my initial interpretation of Harry's position from Adiepf and Dan Ashcroft?
 

Gilzeanking

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Like others , I'm unsure whats for the best re Harry . One small overlooked point is that we are only thinking of Harry at all because of two , just two , late victories , one against a weird and spooked Blackburn team who simply didn't turn up . The other a home match vs Fulham . Take these 2 away and the slump has lasted since jan-feb..we've come 5th and are in the Europa ,Harry has already left the club ....and Rodgers has decided our squad is better than Pool's and is in place .

Thats not happened , but the general view that the slump in form is banished because of the 2 late wins may not be entirely true . If one takes the timeframe of this year (2012) only , it may be we are closer to relegation form . If you take the whole season of course then he has got us 4 th and well done for that .

Just one season running down his contract seems the worst of all worlds to me .Levy must act on behalf of Spurs . Its a back or sack situation . I'm looking for leadership now ,where is it ?
 

SpurSince57

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Like others , I'm unsure whats for the best re Harry . One small overlooked point is that we are only thinking of Harry at all because of two , just two , late victories , one against a weird and spooked Blackburn team who simply didn't turn up . The other a home match vs Fulham . Take these 2 away and the slump has lasted since jan-feb..we've come 5th and are in the Europa ,Harry has already left the club ....and Rodgers has decided our squad is better than Pool's and is in place .

Thats not happened , but the general view that the slump in form is banished because of the 2 late wins may not be entirely true . If one takes the timeframe of this year (2012) only , it may be we are closer to relegation form . If you take the whole season of course then he has got us 4 th and well done for that .

Just one season running down his contract seems the worst of all worlds to me .Levy must act on behalf of Spurs . Its a back or sack situation . I'm looking for leadership now ,where is it ?

There were three late wins. Perhaps we should take them all away. Looking at what might have happened instead of what actually happened is such a useful thing to do.
 

ajspurs

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I'm not sure what I want from this also but either way, I just hope it's resolved quickly.

Personally I wouldn't be displeased if Harry stayed but I also wouldn't greatly mind if he left and we got someone else in. I just want the decision to be made quickly so we can further establish transfer targets with the new manager or push forward with some of Harry's preferences etc.
 

Lo Amo Speroni

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I have -12 all from one post some weeks ago when I was gutted that Woy got the England job because at the time I wanted Harry gone. I don't like some of the things he says, especially his comments regarding it affecting the players if he didn't have a contract which was in contradiction to his comments in March.

But enough is enough, there isn't really anybody out there available who would be any better than Harry at the moment so we need to get on with it. I think Levy knows this and some compromise will be reached shortly i'm sure.

We need to strengthen our squad to ensure improvements can be made next season, we are on the cusp and Levy will want us to cross the threshold. So let's stop the Harry bashing and get on with it.

COYS
 

Gilzeanking

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There were three late wins. Perhaps we should take them all away. Looking at what might have happened instead of what actually happened is such a useful thing to do.

Oh, did I forget one....? . I think the general point that the assumption that the slump is gone for good is one worth looking at though , no ?
 

NEVILLEB

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Why are we messing about with this?

Totally disruptive to building for next season

I'm not surprised though. Classic.
 

NEVILLEB

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Should have been sorted out decisively at the end of the season

Typical Levy. Going to unsettle our best players.
 

SpurSince57

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Oh, did I forget one....? . I think the general point that the assumption that the slump is gone for good is one worth looking at though , no ?

Ah, I catch your drift! You're suggesting it's going to continue into next season! Like our slump at the end of the previous season continued, you mean? Yes, I guess it's worth a look—it needs to be taken every bit as seriously as your suggestion that Defoe and Crouch's goal drought the season before last was caused by our failure to extend Gudjohnson's contract, every bit indeed.
 

jimtheyid

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A rolling one year contract is a pretty decent deal all round IMO. Every day that Harry wakes up, he will have a year left on his contract. Worked for Pep, why not H?

He does mental things tactically that irritate me, but with the distraction of the England job gone, I think I am decided that I would prefer Harry to stay. We haven't had a team this good since 1987. And I personally am enjoying the ride.
 

Gilzeanking

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Ah, I catch your drift! You're suggesting it's going to continue into next season! Like our slump at the end of the previous season continued, you mean? Yes, I guess it's worth a look—it needs to be taken every bit as seriously as your suggestion that Defoe and Crouch's goal drought the season before last was caused by our failure to extend Gudjohnson's contract, every bit indeed.

I sense a certain amount of unpleasantness here Mr 57 . I mentioned Gudjohnson's departure as a possible part of our striking failures the following season and I don't see this as necessarily incorrect . Many posters at the time seemed to have forgotten that our forward line was depleted from the successful CL qualifying one by Gudjohnson's departure .

See , it is possible to make posts without sarcasm or malice.
 
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