Robbie Keane Interview 29th May

[AngerManagement]

And im still of the impression that Liverpool have no real intention of buying Keane (atleast not for the prices quoted)

I think it is an excerise in divide and conqour, unsettling us as a squad close enough to threaten their CL cartel.

Seems like this was the case with Defoe and CIsse previously so why not again now? I will believe it when I see it in terms of them making such a large bid for him.

 

[Legend10]

when have you ever known a striker to put his foot in? you could probably count them all on 1 hand :shrug:

Could i ask you to do this the other way round as it would be a lot quicker.

Please name me 1 current professional footballer who shows the same lack of bottle that Robbie Keane does and runs away from the first hint of any physical contact. Deliberately jumps 3 feet under airial balls so that he odesn't get touched, will let the opposition have the ball in dangerous areas rather than be touched and bottles challenges that are 90% in his favour? Just 1 other player.

And as for somebody elses comment about him getting stuck in got him sent off last season, that is simply ridiculous. It was a poor refereeing decision no doubt but lunging at an opponent who was on the floor and unable to do anything isn't really getting stuck in for gods sake.

Anyway can anyone name another player who runs away in the same manner?

 

[joey55]

Could i ask you to do this the other way round as it would be a lot quicker.

Please name me 1 current professional footballer who shows the same lack of bottle that Robbie Keane does and runs away from the first hint of any physical contact. Deliberately jumps 3 feet under airial balls so that he odesn't get touched, will let the opposition have the ball in dangerous areas rather than be touched and bottles challenges that are 90% in his favour? Just 1 other player.

And as for somebody elses comment about him getting stuck in got him sent off last season, that is simply ridiculous. It was a poor refereeing decision no doubt but lunging at an opponent who was on the floor and unable to do anything isn't really getting stuck in for gods sake.

Anyway can anyone name another player who runs away in the same manner?

But I always remember you being supportive of Defoe. Defoe rarely put in any tackles or blocks and his off the ball running was always poor. Keane was a comparitive work horse compared to Defoe. I liked them both and don't have a problem with Defoe doing very little other than his main job, which was to score goals. I think it's an odd thing to be critical of Keane for, as it's hardly the bedrock of any good strikers game. There are loads of strikers who don't like to get stuck in, but few that make up for it with the chances Keane makes or the goals he scores. You got on his back right from the start of the season, but he then went on to score 23 goals for us.

 

[Legend10]

But I always remember you being supportive of Defoe. Defoe rarely put in any tackles or blocks and his off the ball running was always poor. Keane was a comparitive work horse compared to Defoe. I liked them both and don't have a problem with Defoe doing very little other than his main job, which was to score goals. I think it's an odd thing to be critical of Keane for, as it's hardly the bedrock of any good strikers game. There are loads of strikers who don't like to get stuck in, but few that make up for it with the chances Keane makes or the goals he scores. You got on his back right from the start of the season, but he then went on to score 23 goals for us.

I agree that Defoe wasn't and isn't a striker that puts himself about physically, but keane makes Defoe look like gladiator!

And I disagree withyour other points, a team who conceded as many goals as we did last season needs to defend from the front. By that i'm not talking about putting in tackles all over the place but I do expect good strikers to hold the ball up, battle for it and not concede easy possesion because they are scared.

Please name me 1 player that you know of who shows the same lack of bottle that Keane does?

i would sit in my seat and cringe with embarassment at how much of a wimp he is.

 

[joey55]

I agree that Defoe wasn't and isn't a striker that puts himself about physically, but keane makes Defoe look like gladiator!

And I disagree withyour other points, a team who conceded as many goals as we did last season needs to defend from the front. By that i'm not talking about putting in tackles all over the place but I do expect good strikers to hold the ball up, battle for it and not concede easy possesion because they are scared.

Please name me 1 player that you know of who shows the same lack of bottle that Keane does?

i would sit in my seat and cringe with embarassment at how much of a wimp he is.

But that is a Ramos debate that is perhaps not for now. Prior to Ramos, we gave away only the 5th highest amount of chances in the Prem, both at the start of the season and for the whole of the previous season. The trouble was when we did give away chances it tended to result in goals. But the point your making about defending from the front, suggests as a team we weren't stopping the opposition from creating chances, which comparitively with the rest of the Prem, we were very well. We just lacked the experience at the back. Most of our goals were conceded from set pieces or long shots. Since Woodgate and Hutton have come in, i think we've only let in a couple like that.

As for the "bottle" question, how often do any of us really watch opposition strikers to see how brave they are? There are the obvious one's like Kevin Davies, Dickov and Kuyt etc. But would you have a clue how brave the likes of Johnson, Agbonlahor or RVP and so on are? It's just not something fans look at in opposition strikers, so no one is going to be able to answer your question and if they randomly threw a name at you, I'm sure they'd be suspicious of your ability to judge that players "bottle." I don't mean to suggest that you are a bad judge, but in less it really stands out in their game, as with those I've mentioned, it's unlikely you'd have noticed how brave the opposition strikers, in the way you would how quick, stong or technically gifted (ie attributes that can hurt us when they are attacking) etc they are .

 

[SpurSince57]

I agree that Defoe wasn't and isn't a striker that puts himself about physically, but keane makes Defoe look like gladiator!

And I disagree withyour other points, a team who conceded as many goals as we did last season needs to defend from the front. By that i'm not talking about putting in tackles all over the place but I do expect good strikers to hold the ball up, battle for it and not concede easy possesion because they are scared.

Please name me 1 player that you know of who shows the same lack of bottle that Keane does?

i would sit in my seat and cringe with embarassment at how much of a wimp he is.

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

 

[Disconosebleed]

SS57, any chance you can cut down on those sort of posts? The number of posts with either that smiley or the I'm With Stupid one recently is ridiculous, and doesn't exactly speak well of someone who, as a moderator, should be an ambassador of the forums. Show a bit of respect, even if you don't think it's warranted.

 

[SpurSince57]

Sorry, but how else can you respond to something to something so demonstrably ludicrous? I could go rational, and point out that Defoe put in just 10 tackles last season, with a success rate of 40%, and that Keane managed 23, with a success rate of 73.9%, but then I'd be told that 'stats don't mean anything'.

So forgive me if I decide, from time to time, that a picture is worth a thousand words.

 

[Disconosebleed]

As a mod you have an obligation to behave correctly, moreso than normal posters. Considering how nuts the team here are about showing respect to ITKs, perhaps everyone else should get the same courtesy.

 

[Houdini]

SS57, a MOD?

 

[SpurSince57]

As a mod you have an obligation to behave correctly, moreso than normal posters. Considering how nuts the team here are about showing respect to ITKs, perhaps everyone else should get the same courtesy.

But I'm not a mod. I'm a Room Arranger.

And the rule is, no abuse. Finding something screamingly funny is not, as far as I'm aware, abusive.

Perhaps our players should get the same courtesy and protection from abuse.

 

[Houdini]

Thats cleared that up!

 

[Barmy_in_Palmy]

You probably could, except he said this two months ago. Surely he cant be unhappy?

Why not?

 

[Defsta]

He was a Liverpool fan as a boy, was he not? For that reason alone, I have no problem with him wanting to go there at all.

I have to agree with Jack and that's even annoying :shrug:






It's like when Tainio signed with us as a Bosman, he got much better offers from Manu etc. but he choose us over them because he had been a Spurs fan since a little boy, he just wanted to play for club who he has been supported for many years like Keano now.




Unlike that fucking Judas Campbell who went to Scum just for money and trophies and you can ever compare Keano to that one fucking little piece of shit traitor.

 

[pagevee]

I have to agree with Jack and that's even annoying :shrug:






It's like when Tainio signed with us as a Bosman, he got much better offers from Manu etc. but he choose us over them because he had been a Spurs fan since a little boy, he just wanted to play for club who he has been supported for many years like Keano now.




Unlike that fucking Judas Campbell who went to Scum just for money and trophies and you can ever compare Keano to that one fucking little piece of shit traitor.

I don't care if others wouldn't mind him leaving. I don't want Teemu to go. The only player I would keep over him is King. Call me sentimental all you want. The guy is Lilywhite at heart.

As for Keane, he does more defensively than Defoe did. Not that it is a hard standard to surpass.

 

[thfcsteff]

quote 2. read it again. I could make an argumet out of that alone to say Keanes not a liar

Ha ha, are you serious? 'As long as I'm happy'? And how, pray tell, do we gauge little Robbie's 'happiness' then? Better question, how does he? If I were Robbie's missus I'd watch out 'cos he obviously loves her only as long as 'he's happy...'

The guys's a fucking troll. FACT!

 

[thfcsteff]

Well said, good sir. He's human after all.

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It's interesting to see how different people handle emotions differently. Some seem to want to ruin their memory of him, by focussing on the negative to make themselves feel better. Others will convince themselves they never really liked him anyway. Some will empathise and see where he's coming from, and some will just be sad.

It's fascinating charting people's emotional maturity. People are awesome.

I'm sorry Stoof...is that you with the sanctimonious stuff about 'people's emotional maturity'?

You're coming across like a Professor looking over a bunch of lab rats. Frankly mate, if that is how you're viewing all this, then I'd suggest you have some 'emotional' issues yourself, such as perhaps not feeling comfortable when people express theirs.

I have no issue whatsoever if people wish to give Robbie Keane the benefit of the doubt. Wonderful stuff.

But I do have a problem when people (not you per se as this doesn't directly apply) start wading in with all this clap-trap about how stupid people are to feel negative about him, etc, etc.

The fact remains that he absolutely tethered himself, both verbally and physically via contract, to the club in the last 12 months. he went above and beyond the call of duty to become a central figure at the club. He had friends in high and low places within the organization. And even when he was tapped up, he had said he would happily honor his contract if we did not wish to sell.
'A change of heart' is it?
Or a weakness of character?
If you wish to ponder the variables and stay on the fence, that's wonderful, but please don't question the 'emotional maturity' of myself or anyone else who thinks that Robbie Keane is actually a man of shallow character and fibre...a nice way of saying he is an untrustworthy traitor. One man's change of heart is another man's traitor I suppose, and that one's always going to be a matter of opinion.
One thing's for sure; neither of us is definitively right with our opinions on the matter, and any attempt to say so are surely foolish...

 

[Defsta]

I don't care if others wouldn't mind him leaving. I don't want Teemu to go. The only player I would keep over him is King. Call me sentimental all you want. The guy is Lilywhite at heart.

As for Keane, he does more defensively than Defoe did. Not that it is a hard standard to surpass.

Well had chat with Teemu month ago and he said that he doesn't want to leave bu Rams hasn't give him as much credit like BMJ did so even he prefer to stay with Spurs more important thing is regular playing time like any other player.


And I think I'm the most annoyed fan to see Teemu to leave as you can see from my sig, but he need/want to play regular first team which is impossible for him under Ramos. And I fully agree that.

 

[recklessyido]

I can't get over how many of you are pissed off with him. The guys done his bit for Spurs, if he wants to move on for 20 million then let him go cause i believe we could get someone better and younger.

I love Keano, the guys been nothing but great while for playing for Spurs but if he wants to move then let him.

Berbatov on the other hand is a different sorry for me!

 

[Stoof]

I'm sorry Stoof...is that you with the sanctimonious stuff about 'people's emotional maturity'?

You're coming across like a Professor looking over a bunch of lab rats. Frankly mate, if that is how you're viewing all this, then I'd suggest you have some 'emotional' issues yourself, such as perhaps not feeling comfortable when people express theirs.

:lol: Yowzer, you probably don't have the first clue about what you're talking about with regards to my emotional state of being but thank you anyway.

I have no issue whatsoever if people wish to give Robbie Keane the benefit of the doubt. Wonderful stuff.

The fact remains that he absolutely tethered himself, both verbally and physically via contract, to the club in the last 12 months. he went above and beyond the call of duty to become a central figure at the club. He had friends in high and low places within the organization. And even when he was tapped up, he had said he would happily honor his contract if we did not wish to sell.
'A change of heart' is it?
Or a weakness of character?
If you wish to ponder the variables and stay on the fence, that's wonderful, but please don't question the 'emotional maturity' of myself or anyone else who thinks that Robbie Keane is actually a man of shallow character and fibre...a nice way of saying he is an untrustworthy traitor. One man's change of heart is another man's traitor I suppose, and that one's always going to be a matter of opinion.
One thing's for sure; neither of us is definitively right with our opinions on the matter, and any attempt to say so are surely foolish...

And then you take a deep breath, and in fact realise that the complexities of human emotion and the varying responses from various sectors of society are indeed an interesting side-show in all this, and I was pointing out just that.

That you've read in some sort of 'Professor' like role does more to suggest what your complexes are than anything else.

But, in another life I would have taken the Psychology route because I truly do find it fascinating. As for getting so worked up at someone pointing towards a hypothesis that people have different levels of emotional maturity and will therefore respond differently, well, doesn't it take some sort of biscuit? :wink:

I'm not calling you a kid because you've over developed your anger and missed out on empathy, it's not an insult!! But then the word 'maturity' is like moth to light is it? He sed I was imachurr!