Saido Berahino signs for Stoke City

[Trix]

Surely some of that was advised by us? Poch was in love with him saying how he was the only one he wanted so you'd imagine we, or his agent, advised him to kick up a fuss.

I must admit, it does seem strange when you think about it. Poch absolutely loved him, rated him very highly (I seem to remember him saying it's like when you love a woman and there's only 1 you want-or something like that) he puts in a transfer request, kicks off a fuss in a very messy situation that resulted in Peace speaking out about levy. Berahino then gets made an example of and now we wouldn't touch him with a barge pole.

I accept your point and perhaps you're right, poch has been put off by his behaviour (which I don't think has been that bad as it's more West Brom ostracising him than berahino doing anything wrong but he, and you, may know something we don't) but considering how much he rated him as a player and, more importantly for levy, how much his stock has dropped I'm mildly surprised we're not at least sniffing around again. Especially when you consider how options are always pretty limited in January, and he's got prem experience.

Personally I'd be all over berahino at £8-£10mil with £30-40k per week wages. Worst case scenario is he's a **** and we mug him off to France or some newly promoted championship side in the summer.

No idea who if anyone advised him on how to act. Iirc though he binned his agent off around the time all this was happening.

 

[millsey]

As would I, either now or in the summer for free. Doing what I suggest in the post above - let him train, get fit and ready and see where we are for next season.

He won't be free in summer, will likely cost 8-10 mill odd at tribunal

 

[Danners9]

He won't be free in summer, will likely cost 8-10 mill odd at tribunal

Only if he signs before his 24th birthday. 4 August. Tribunals apply to players under 24 at the time of moving clubs.

Although that would mess up the idea of him training with a club ahead of the move..

 

[ebzrascal]

Only if he signs before his 24th birthday. 4 August. Tribunals apply to players under 24 at the time of moving clubs.

Although that would mess up the idea of him training with a club ahead of the move..

So he will likely do a pre-contract and move for nothing in August gonna be worth a shot for someone.

 

[Wheeler Dealer]

He's worth a shot if transfer is low, as he can't be any worse than Janssen.

 

[sammyj]

West ham written all over him

 

[dontcallme]

He's worth a shot if transfer is low, as he can't be any worse than Janssen.

Don't think that's what we should be basing our transfer policy on.

 

[DogsOfWar]

Don't think that's what we should be basing our transfer policy on.

I do on this occasion just because it's unique.

Saido's style of play, his price tag, and his Premiership experience mean there is no-one else out there that offers the potential reward against risk of this purchase.

Even discounting Janssen's goal return, Berahino would give us another type of striking goal threat which is the only area (in terms of depth) that we are missing.

 

[dontcallme]

I do on this occasion just because it's unique.

Saido's style of play, his price tag, and his Premiership experience mean there is no-one else out there that offers the potential reward against risk of this purchase.

Even discounting Janssen's goal return, Berahino would give us another type of striking goal threat which is the only area (in terms of depth) that we are missing.

More than happy to buy a player based on the bits in bold. Don't want us just to buy right now just because Janssen isn't doing well.

 

[chinaman]

I do on this occasion just because it's unique.

Saido's style of play, his price tag, and his Premiership experience mean there is no-one else out there that offers the potential reward against risk of this purchase.

Even discounting Janssen's goal return, Berahino would give us another type of striking goal threat which is the only area (in terms of depth) that we are missing.

I agree with your views although he won't be able to help the team for the rest of the season as he won't get Poch-fit in time.

 

[DogsOfWar]

I agree with your views although he won't be able to help the team for the rest of the season as he won't get Poch-fit in time.

I don't know how quickly a professional player needs to get fit but even after a few months out injured players seem to return to first team football within a couple of months of full time training.
His primary role would also be from the bench to start with so I still think he could contribute to our season even if he isn't quite up to Poch's preferred levels.

 

[TEESSIDE1]

More than happy to buy a player based on the bits in bold. Don't want us just to buy right now just because Janssen isn't doing well.

The problem with Janssen isn't that he's taking time to adapt it's that he looks ridiculously out of his depth and technically inept. At least with someone like Berahino we'd have an alternative foil to Kane in that Saido can can beat his man/get in behind defenders. Whereas with Janssen he's slow, clumsy, has a poor touch and limited to no vision.

 

[dontcallme]

The problem with Janssen isn't that he's taking time to adapt it's that he looks ridiculously out of his depth and technically inept. At least with someone like Berahino we'd have an alternative foil to Kane in that Saido can can beat his man/get in behind defenders. Whereas with Janssen he's slow, clumsy, has a poor touch and limited to no vision.

Sure but I believe we'll get CL football this season with or without Berahino. In the summer we could find a better striker than Berahino.

Don't see the need to buy him just because Janssen isn't doing well.

 

[TEESSIDE1]

Sure but I believe we'll get CL football this season with or without Berahino. In the summer we could find a better striker than Berahino.

Don't see the need to buy him just because Janssen isn't doing well.

Another injury to Kane and we'll be back to struggling to convert chances again. Janssen as it stands isn't up to the job.

 

[THFCSPURS19]

Just posted this in the Janssen thread:

How long did it take Poch to put Nkoudou on the bench? Berahino isn't even making West Brom's squad because of weight issues, it would take an age for him to get to the point where he could fit into Poch's philosophy.

I cannot understand the ongoing fascination with Berahino. Yeah, there was a point I wanted him also, but he's since displayed a very poor attitude and was awful last season.

Can someone please enlighten me?

 

[DogsOfWar]

Sure but I believe we'll get CL football this season with or without Berahino. In the summer we could find a better striker than Berahino.

Don't see the need to buy him just because Janssen isn't doing well.

Fair point, but why not have the, relatively, low cost insurance that Saido could provide?

This season he could provide pace off the bench and, currently, a bigger goal threat than Janssen. Even if we come 4th a couple of extra goals could have been 3rd, or finishing above Arsenal etc.
An OK striker if we can't land a better striker in the Summer (and with our last few forays into the striker transfer market it doesn't look good).
An OK striker to replace Janssen if he doesn't improve in his second season.
A guaranteed profit if we get in a better striker in the Summer and Janssen does improve next season.

For me it's a win-win so I see no reason why we wouldn't buy him.

 

[THFCSPURS19]

For me it's a win-win so I see no reason why we wouldn't buy him.

Yeah.

Apart from the poor attitude, the weight issues, lack of effort in training and his awful form last season.

 

[TEESSIDE1]

Just posted this in the Janssen thread:

This is the Berahino who posted a pic of himself with toned abs a couple of days after his reported weight issues. It's more likely a case of he won't sign a new contract and has the hump since WBA blocked his move, resulting in WBA letting him rot.

Secondly he's grown up with the demands of English football unlike GKN and Janssen.

 

[midge]

Yeah.

Apart from the poor attitude, the weight issues, lack of effort in training and his awful form last season.

http://www.expressandstar.com/sport...s-topless-fat-boy-photo-from-south-of-france/

Looking at the pictures, Berahino looks pretty good for a guy who is suppose to be having weight issues

Might be just Pulis and the WBA chairman trying to teach him a lesson making him unattractive to potential suitors and get him to sign a new contract

Good think about signing Berahino is you get someone who is already use to playing in this league . He would not have to need to get use to the style of play like Vincent or George

 

[THFCSPURS19]

This is the Berahino who posted a pic of himself with toned abs a couple of days after his reported weight issues. It's more likely a case of he won't sign a new contract and has the hump since WBA blocked his move, resulting in WBA letting him rot.

Secondly he's grown up with the demands of English football unlike GKN and Janssen.

Does having abs necessarily mean he's at the required weight? I'm sure he wasn't obese lol.

I doubt he'll be able to meet Poch's demands TBH.