Salaries

[talkshowhost86]

Will we keep our current world class/almost world class players?

Why don't you wait and see before being so negative about it all?

If lots of players leave the club then we'll need to look at why.

For now no players have left the club, and we also haven't even started the transfer window for bringing players in.

The relentless negativity is, quite frankly, baffling.

 

[DJS]

You are verily lucky on life of you don't pick a job because you need to be paid, and instead you do something you love, regardless of money. Most people have to work to pay the bills, which means they choose that job based on the money. Otherwise a lot would be doing something else

50 grand a week would easily pay most people's bills lol...

 

[rabbikeane]

Daily Star's done a piece ranking the clubs who pay the most salaries, we're 11th in european football
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/fo...-money-salaries-Premier-League-sportgalleries

1 Barcelona - £279m
2 Manchester United - £265m
3 Chelsea - £256m
4 Real Madrid - £250m
5 Manchester City - £248m
6 Paris St-Germain - £239m
7 Arsenal - £234m
8 Bayern Munich - £225m
9 Liverpool - £200m
10 Juventus - £181m

11 Tottenham Hotspur - £120m
12 AC Milan - £115m
13 Borussia Dortmund - £113m
14 Everton - £106m
15 Roma - £105
16 Internazionale - £102m
17 West Ham - £95m
18 Southampton - £92m
18 Stoke - £92m

Atletico Madrid - £86m

 

[Gb160]

Daily Star's done a piece ranking the clubs who pay the most salaries, we're 11th in european football
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/fo...-money-salaries-Premier-League-sportgalleries

1 Barcelona - £279m
2 Manchester United - £265m
3 Chelsea - £256m
4 Real Madrid - £250m
5 Manchester City - £248m
6 Paris St-Germain - £239m
7 Arsenal - £234m
8 Bayern Munich - £225m
9 Liverpool - £200m
10 Juventus - £181m

11 Tottenham Hotspur - £120m
12 AC Milan - £115m
13 Borussia Dortmund - £113m
14 Everton - £106m
15 Roma - £105
16 Internazionale - £102m
17 West Ham - £95m
18 Southampton - £92m
18 Stoke - £92m

Atletico Madrid - £86m

This tells me 1 thing...Argentinian managers are pretty fucking amazing.

 

[Shadydan]

Why don't you wait and see before being so negative about it all?

If lots of players leave the club then we'll need to look at why.

For now no players have left the club, and we also haven't even started the transfer window for bringing players in.

The relentless negativity is, quite frankly, baffling.

Yeah but how would people throw this out the pram that way?

 

[tiger666]

Daily Star's done a piece ranking the clubs who pay the most salaries, we're 11th in european football
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/fo...-money-salaries-Premier-League-sportgalleries

1 Barcelona - £279m
2 Manchester United - £265m
3 Chelsea - £256m
4 Real Madrid - £250m
5 Manchester City - £248m
6 Paris St-Germain - £239m
7 Arsenal - £234m
8 Bayern Munich - £225m
9 Liverpool - £200m
10 Juventus - £181m

11 Tottenham Hotspur - £120m
12 AC Milan - £115m
13 Borussia Dortmund - £113m
14 Everton - £106m
15 Roma - £105
16 Internazionale - £102m
17 West Ham - £95m
18 Southampton - £92m
18 Stoke - £92m

Atletico Madrid - £86m

I don't see Crystal Palace

 

[bobby soldier]

Daily Star's done a piece ranking the clubs who pay the most salaries, we're 11th in european football
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/fo...-money-salaries-Premier-League-sportgalleries

1 Barcelona - £279m
2 Manchester United - £265m
3 Chelsea - £256m
4 Real Madrid - £250m
5 Manchester City - £248m
6 Paris St-Germain - £239m
7 Arsenal - £234m
8 Bayern Munich - £225m
9 Liverpool - £200m
10 Juventus - £181m

11 Tottenham Hotspur - £120m
12 AC Milan - £115m
13 Borussia Dortmund - £113m
14 Everton - £106m
15 Roma - £105
16 Internazionale - £102m
17 West Ham - £95m
18 Southampton - £92m
18 Stoke - £92m

Atletico Madrid - £86m

So if you crunch the numbers, that's £2.3m a week, or £100k average for the 23 players in the first team squad (this excludes Pau Lopez and the 3 players out on loan Fazio, Njie and Bentaleb).

Doesn't sound too bad to me, especially when you consider that in that 23 there are players like Onomah, Carter-Vickers, Winks, Wimmer and Vorm. They must surely be on a lot less than £100k a week...

To address the original question, if the likes of Rose are on £30k a week then someone's earning (even more of) a fortune!

 

[spursfan77]

Daily Star's done a piece ranking the clubs who pay the most salaries, we're 11th in european football
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/fo...-money-salaries-Premier-League-sportgalleries

1 Barcelona - £279m
2 Manchester United - £265m
3 Chelsea - £256m
4 Real Madrid - £250m
5 Manchester City - £248m
6 Paris St-Germain - £239m
7 Arsenal - £234m
8 Bayern Munich - £225m
9 Liverpool - £200m
10 Juventus - £181m

11 Tottenham Hotspur - £120m
12 AC Milan - £115m
13 Borussia Dortmund - £113m
14 Everton - £106m
15 Roma - £105
16 Internazionale - £102m
17 West Ham - £95m
18 Southampton - £92m
18 Stoke - £92m

Atletico Madrid - £86m

This is why I maintain we pay our players more than enough. Its not our fault that the clubs above us pay their players stupid money. Just because they do, why should we? There is more than enough players to go round in Europe that we could sign and would jump at the chance to come to us.

Also don't forget about this:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...estrictions-won-t-hit-high-earners-clubs.html

 

[SPURSLIFE]

Lack of ambition? We've spent the best part of a billion quid on a training complex that's up there with the best in the world and a stadium that will not only increase gates hugely but will also generate money in ways never even conceived by other clubs, all the while establishing us as a top 4 side with some of the most sought after players in the league. Developed and nurtured English talent, pumped money into the local area and supported various charities along the way.

But nah, we should definitely do the opposite of what's afforded us our recent successes and throw money at mercenaries in the vague hope they can be bothered to turn up now and then.

EH.... Great but what have we won recently? As my old Dad use to say "it's no point being the richest guy in the graveyard"

 

[tiger666]

EH.... Great but what have we won recently? As my old Dad use to say "it's no point being the richest guy in the graveyard"

Nothing yet. You're going to have to wait. Sorry.

 

[Japhet]

My point is if you paying £90k or £100k a week and tell them they have to stay another year or two they are more likely to just get on with it..

If players who have been instrumental in getting us to 2nd place with highest everything stats wise are paid considerably less than other first team squad players and West Ham Leicester and Palace players then that's wrong in my view.

I say tell them they ain't going anywhere next season but give the players on lower wages an increase. This squad has probably earned the club an extra £70 million for last season and next that they would not have budgeted for a few seasons back... To give six players an average increase of 50K a week would cost about £15 million a year. I think we can afford it..

I presume you're cherry picking the salaries from the likes of Palace and West Ham (Zaha, Benteke etc.) to use as comparisons, whereas, to have a viable argument, you would need to compare Danny Rose's salary to those of each club's left back - but that wouldn't fit the agenda.

 

[ebzrascal]

I presume you're cherry picking the salaries from the likes of Palace and West Ham (Zaha, Benteke etc.) to use as comparisons, whereas, to have a viable argument, you would need to compare Danny Rose's salary to those of each club's left back - but that wouldn't fit the agenda.

Danny Rose is the best left back/wing back in England and valued at probably £40 million not sure he should be getting the way less pay than any Palace and West Ham players

 

[Lighty64]

Danny Rose is the best left back/wing back in England and valued at probably £40 million not sure he should be getting the way less pay than any Palace and West Ham players

When Palace signed Benteke they where desperate for a striker, so had to match his wages from Liverpool. Zaha who has only just signed the new contract, was attracting interest from us, so Palace offer him a contract that goes above our wage structure.

 

[WexfordTownSpur]

Wages are only good enough until they get othe

For fuck sake.

Every one of these players who apparently we underpay signed new contracts willingly as players in the England squad who had just helped us get into the Champions League. It's not as if we are holding these players to contracts signed as schoolboys, it's not as if any of them had guns to their heads.

Walker, Rose, Dier, Alli, Kane all signed their contracts in the past season, having started our CL campaign and having been starters at the last Euros for England. They were happy to enter contracts at whatever their wages are as international starters who had got us into the Champions League and had a storming previous season so if our wage structure was good enough then, it's good enough now.

wages are only good enough until other offers come in and let's face it, they will.

Look it is human nature, if you are having lunch with a mate and he says hey my company are really looking for guys like you and they will pay on average 50% more than the guys your currently work for!

Obviously your going to think about, plus we are talking about persuading agent scum here!!

 

[WexfordTownSpur]

They didn’t leave because of money though. They went to better teams to win things.

Money was and will always be at least one of the motivations for players these days. Yes with Poch and CL football that helps. But other clubs have top managers and CL football as well.

 

[BringBack_leGin]

Wages are only good enough until they get othe
wages are only good enough until other offers come in and let's face it, they will.

Look it is human nature, if you are having lunch with a mate and he says hey my company are really looking for guys like you and they will pay on average 50% more than the guys your currently work for!

Obviously your going to think about, plus we are talking about persuading agent scum here!!

I'm not arguing that these guys aren't entitled to want more, good luck to them, I just argue that Spurs has no obligation to pay any more this soon after they'd signed long contracts.

 

[spids]

Levy will almost certainly have the players salaries heavily linked to both performance and revenue/turnover.

If he was sensible he would calculate our 'par' as 6th place (which is where our revenue currently places our expected league finish). He can then calculate a revenue projection based on this position and other "knowns" (match day revenue, TV money projection, sponsorship etc.) and fix wages so they are 50-55% of total projected turnover. This would enable Levy to project a baseline salary cost for the first team squad. He can then weight this dependent on player importance (e.g. Kane, Alli etc should get a heavier weighting than Sissoko or Onomah). It would then be possible to calculate additional turnover / revenue based on success - e.g. European football (prize money and TV) and Premier League prize money at £1.9M for each place higher in the league, and build this into the model to reward players.

For example, Harry Kane could have a base salary of £100k per week. And for each league position higher than 6th retrospectively earn an extra £5k per week. And if we finish in the top 4 also get a retrospective CL bonus of an extra £10k per week. These bonuses would have taken his total weekly salary for 2016/17 season to £130k per week. If we did not get European football it would not break our salary to turnover ratio.

 

[spids]

Money was and will always be at least one of the motivations for players these days. Yes with Poch and CL football that helps. But other clubs have top managers and CL football as well.

Look at Modric, Bale, Berbatov and Carrick. All forced moves from us. Bale and Modric have won 3 CLs. Carrick has won 2. Plus they all have won domestic cups and league titles. I am sure Kane and Alli want to win similar. New stadium may keep them for a coupel of years, but unless we start reaching later stages of the CL year in year out I think they will move.

 

[Mullers]

Money was and will always be at least one of the motivations for players these days. Yes with Poch and CL football that helps. But other clubs have top managers and CL football as well.

Sure but my point is this is not the main motivation .

 

[WexfordTownSpur]

Sure but my point is this is not the main motivation .

I guess that is the mark of the man isn't it? Unfortunately I think for players like Walker it is a big contribution. Personally I believe he is at the best club he could be to get game time play CL football and get good coaching to improve, but I think He thinks he should be on a hell of a lot more money. Players like Harry are in a different mold. Alli, I am not quite sure about, to be honest I wouldn't be totally shocked if he were to go, but I hope not.

The one thing I hope, and this would show real progress as a club, is we don't sell our players we would like to keep to clubs in the EPL. This is what top clubs do, sure if Ronaldo wanted to go he could said fergi, but only abroad. We should have same stance.