Salaries

[whitesocks]

Professional football is hardly the care industry.
Although if a player did care enough about that, surely his aim should be to maximise his income and then fund a new wing or 2 of his local hospital.

 

[Trix]

Professional football is hardly the care industry.
Although if a player did care enough about that, surely his aim should be to maximise his income and then fund a new wing or 2 of his local hospital.

It doesn't matter. The number of players who get into the professional game who do it for money I would guess is very very small. They do it because they love playing the game. I'm not saying money doesn't have an impact on players but to keep suggesting money is the only reason players move, is just plain wrong and clearly agenda driven.

 

[millsey]

Perhaps it's his wife that wants to move back closer to her family. Perhaps he's had an affair and she wants him to move away. Perhaps he has been here a long time and wants to experience something new in what is a short career. Perhaps he's had a falling out with someone at the club. Perhaps he's been told the plans/players his future employers are trying to buy and that excites him. Perhaps he has always admired the manager he is looking to sign for, and can't miss the opportunity to play under him. Perhaps he has been told the guy he's competing with currently is going to get more game time and so he will get less et etc etc....

Maybe its one of these, a combination of them, or none of them, but all these are 100% reasons why players have moved clubs in the past, and I'm sure there are an awful lot more as well.

Perhaps he's shouldn't have signed a 5 year contract

 

[millsey]

Seriously!!! Is that what you honestly believe or is it just to suit your arguement. Either way, it's nonsense.

You are verily lucky on life of you don't pick a job because you need to be paid, and instead you do something you love, regardless of money. Most people have to work to pay the bills, which means they choose that job based on the money. Otherwise a lot would be doing something else

 

[Mullers]

I bet if we had offered them all double what the teams they left for were offering, they would've stayed.

If Man Utd couldn't get Ronaldo to stay, then we got no chance.

 

[diamond lights]

You are verily lucky on life of you don't pick a job because you need to be paid, and instead you do something you love, regardless of money. Most people have to work to pay the bills, which means they choose that job based on the money. Otherwise a lot would be doing something else

That's very simplistic, Millsey. Life doesn't work like that.
We all need to pay the bills, yes, but life has many aspects to it. Money is a factor but my experience is that homelife, friends, a sense of self worth, being part of something and feeling valued as a person all contribute much more to my state of contentment.

The financial aspect is important and especially if you can't do the necessary things but as a factor towards fulfilment it's over-rated. I could leave my job now and earn substantially more money but it would involve a relocation from my family that I'm not prepared to make.

Footballers are people too and not purely driven by money.

 

[Trix]

Perhaps he's shouldn't have signed a 5 year contract

You have to be trolling? Nobody can be this thick, surely to god they can't

 

[Setzthree]

starting to believe millsey is a programmed bot deployed by A&C just to annoy the shit out of everyone

 

[Shadydan]

Obvious that Milsey is trolling, best that people just don't reply to him

 

[hughy]

Obvious that Milsey is trolling, best that people just don't reply to him

Prepare for 15 agree's and one spam rating.

 

[tiger666]

Prepare for 15 agree's and one spam rating.

You too. Me too probably.

Edit: Nailed it

 

[dudu]

Sorry what would be the other reason? Homesickness??

Game time for one.

Not every footballer only ever moves on for a bigger wage. I'm not saying it doesn't happen more often than not but you definitively state it's the only reason.

There is no way you can know that....

 

[millsey]

Game time for one.

Not every footballer only ever moves on for a bigger wage. I'm not saying it doesn't happen more often than not but you definitively state it's the only reason.

There is no way you can know that....

So City could save quite a bit of cash and pay him what he gets at Spurs then?

 

[whitesocks]

It doesn't matter. The number of players who get into the professional game who do it for money I would guess is very very small. They do it because they love playing the game. I'm not saying money doesn't have an impact on players but to keep suggesting money is the only reason players move, is just plain wrong and clearly agenda driven.

Hang about - I haven't kept suggesting anything.
I think you are right in that the vast majority of players who enter the game will make very very little and it is a lottery to some extent who will actually make it. It is not a sensible career choice.

Then again, I think the game used to have far more characters who were in it for fun, but now they wouldn't last 5 minutes. The players are serious athletes today and they get determined people from all corners because of the potential rewards. They are professionals.

But that is not the whole story.
None of our players have a big international reputation and any player that takes the money needs to calculate if the buyer is trying more to disrupt our team than has any real long term plan for them. They could easily find themselves on the bench for months or even forgotten about. If crippling us releases another CL spot, then it is a bargain deal for the likes of Man U.

And players will need to weigh that up against the way MP likes to play the game - can they really keep it up for another 4 years.
Doubling your money looks quite tempting in that light.

The players have a big stage next season and CL football. If they do as well as we hope, then Levy needs to get that cheque book out again and reduce the temptation for them to move on. He needs to make it clear to players that they can earn similar money if they stay and perform.

 

[dudu]

So City could save quite a bit of cash and pay him what he gets at Spurs then?

No one said getting paid more isn't an incentive and maybe Kyle W is just moving for money but he isn't every footballer and you don't know what every footballer is driven to move clubs by.

To suggest you do means you have either surveyed all of them and have some official statistics for us, you are some kind of mind reading wizard or you are being hyperbolic to make your point.

 

[SpursTillIDie1882]

Those are not the wages, if i assume you got them from harry hotspur site then serious dont spread the bs,dont believe it, his is biggest wum ever, breeze chat.

 

[Lighty64]

So City could save quite a bit of cash and pay him what he gets at Spurs then?

For fuck sake, wake up. No one other than Walker or those close to him know the real reason why he wants to move.

Manchester is a lot closer to Sheffield, he might want to spend more time closer to his family but it doesn't mean he is homesick. If he had been homesick he would of returned years back.

He might be moving for the wages, or he might see it as a better chance to win medals due to the players Man City can attract due to Pep and the wages. He might have been promised more game time, but that will depend on who City have lined up as their other new LB. there's so many reasons he might wish to move on, but because you think everyone is money driven doesn't mean your right. If I had a choice of, health, happiness, and money, money would be last on my list

 

[thfc1973]

My point is if you paying £90k or £100k a week and tell them they have to stay another year or two they are more likely to just get on with it..

If players who have been instrumental in getting us to 2nd place with highest everything stats wise are paid considerably less than other first team squad players and West Ham Leicester and Palace players then that's wrong in my view.

I say tell them they ain't going anywhere next season but give the players on lower wages an increase. This squad has probably earned the club an extra £70 million for last season and next that they would not have budgeted for a few seasons back... To give six players an average increase of 50K a week would cost about £15 million a year. I think we can afford it..

But unfortunately, it doesn't always work that way.. When a player who was instrumental wants to leave and you tell him 'you aren't going anywhere', and 'oh and by the way, heres a new contract with a pay rise', some players may not sign it. They would possibly sit it out and force a move rather than sign a new contract that'll make no real difference to them in terms of salary as they are not looking for a 20-30k per week rise but possibly a 100% rise. So they may feel its easier to just bang the drum slowly but loudly enough to force a move sooner.

 

[ralvy]

Your living in a complete fantasy land if you think we could have kept them by throwing money at them. They all left to play for the 2 biggest clubs on the planet, all won numerous domestic and Europeon honours. We have a hell of a long way to go to compete with the top clubs stature wise.

You're.


Oops, wrong thread

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

Sorry what would be the other reason? Homesickness??

Sorry what would be the other reason? Homesickness??

Yes, that's right, I had to read this twice. I think it's time you stopped the trolling now.