Seattle Sounders Vs Tottenham: Match Thread

[13VanDerBale13]

Looking forward to the Toronto game now. Hopefully we see Lamela Ceballos & Falque starting together.

 

[Spurs Lodge Kittens]

Rose did fine today. People hammering him can hold off after those 45 minutes for a little longer and till he does something wrong again. But he covered well a couple of times and cleared one off the line. I'll take that sort of performance when he steps in for Davies next season as back-up.

 

[13VanDerBale13]

Oh and Friedricks is mega fast! Would prefer him to naughton or see him on loan at a champ club.

 

[muppetman]

Not really because of one game, but Dawson made 4-5 liverpool esque mistakes in the first half, he is just so bad now! Rose and Naughton have never been good enough! Lennon is not a top player now. We have a huge squad with some really good youngsters, can you honestly say selling those 4 and using what we have we would be in a worse position, and even replacing two of the four, would see an improvement. The Defence is the biggest worry for me!

It was the first game on a very dodgy surface. I also suspect that many of those "really good youngsters" would also be getting it in the neck once they make a few mistakes - as young players will.

It was always going to be easier for our offensive players to shine today as individual skill can make you look good where as decent defense is more of a team game and many of these players are not used to playing together.


It was a decent first outing in a match that is more about selling us as a brand in the US than anything else. I believe Arsenal played Borehamwood Utd or some such today as a comparison.

 

[Mikegold]

Anyone got the highlights? Seen our first goal a few pages back but nothing else?

 

[Spurs Lodge Kittens]

It was the first game on a very dodgy surface. I also suspect that many of those "really good youngsters" would also be getting it in the neck once they make a few mistakes - as young players will.

It was always going to be easier for our offensive players to shine today as individual skill can make you look good where as decent defense is more of a team game and many of these players are not used to playing together.


It was a decent first outing in a match that is more about selling us as a brand in the US than anything else. I believe Arsenal played Borehamwood Utd or some such today as a comparison.

Decent defence and a team game doesn't help/stop/make/cause Dawson to pass the ball to the opposition under no pressure whatsoever

 

[idontgetit]

Anyone got the highlights? Seen our first goal a few pages back but nothing else?

Can link you a load of gifs if you want, don't think there are highlights

 

[belsunz]

On the defence, neither half would be our starting back four (five if you include Brad). Walker, Jan, Vlad not involved. Defence may improve after the tour. Even Davies should be brought in by then hopefully. Our back line should be: Walker, Kaboul, Jan, Davies/Rose with Lloris in goal.

Kaboul was playing alongside 3 youngsters, not an easy task. He certainly didn't help himself by stepping up when it was not needed for their 3rd goal. It was that movement which allowed them in behind to score.

I am concerned by Kaboul. Certainly not the player he once was and I am beginning to think the injuries took their toll and he's passed it. Not based on this 45 min alone of course, but this conclusion has been growing on me. Would rather have another CB in our starting line-up against W'ham tbh.

 

[rebrab]

he's an Arsenal fan.

Appoint him as manager then!

 

[StartingPrice]

Did not think that Capoue made a bad game.

Townsend, Rose, Dawson and naughton was aful. Cabellos Holtby And Soldado was good

Not getting some of the comments about Capoue. Strange how different people can focus on completely different things. Yeah, he faded a bit and lost the ball a few times, but he also broke play up a fair few times and immediately looked to to transition the play forward, usually with a pretty sharply conceived and well executed pass. That pass for Soldado, in the second half, when he won the ball in the centre-circle, immediately saw Soldado's run and hit him with an excellent first time ball was just what we need. It was his first game back after a first season at a new club that went down the pan with injury and not being played, against a pretty decent team who are in the middle of their season and pretty sharp in the tackle and on the intercept. I didn't think it was at all bad.

Strange comments from Windy about the Freund/Holtby dynamic.

All in all, not so bad. As someone commented on the defence, most of them won't be starting and a few will be elsewhere, Don't panic Captain Mainwaring

 

[Bobbins]

Can anyone do me a little bullet-point summary of the match please? I missed it but sounds like it was a real mixed bag reading a few pages back.

 

[arunspurs]

Falque - deserves to play for us than Lennon. Best loanee of last season. Will take confidence from this game.

Lennon - being found out now that he has lost a yard of pace

Kane - loked promising. The ball to Holtby was good like, Cavani's ball to Suarez in WC

Cebellos - impressed me the most. Always played forward & got behind defence well

Veljkovic - composed than Fryers, Kaboul & ofcourse Dawson

Fryers - bit dodgy at CB and was better at LB

Rose - decent game, but the bloke cannot cross

Holtby - ran the most, pressed quikly - took the goal well. But I still cant see him as automatic starter - problem I believe his giving possession cheaply

Lamela - many know I am not Lamela fan - yet another average game - didnt beat a man. But atleast showed some tenacity on field which was lacking. Still have faith in Poch to get Lamela playing.

Soldado - Penaldo, a few good tocuhes - needs fitness & sharpness. Decent game

Fredricks - Should be better at RW - only full back we have who can cross

Lennon, Naughton, Dawson - SELL THEM

 

[Spurger King]

I remember AVB's first pre-season games, and from the start there were signs of the style he was hoping to impose - namely a tight, pressing game. The overall impression I got from today was that we looked far more fluid than we have done for a couple of years. Of course there were breakdowns in communication, problems at the back, and a few times when we lost our shape, but essentially there were indications of movement, quick passing, and some nice moments of inventiveness.

Just hope we don't farm out players like Ceballos and Falque again. Some really exciting play from both of them, and I'd love to see them given more opportunities. Probably seems like I've got the Carlos Kickaball glasses on, but they've clearly got talent, and they would offer something fresh and unpredictable to our squad (not to mention that it could help to massively lift their confidence).

Ultimately this game reassured me that we have plenty to be optimistic about, and Pochettino is taking the time to check out the squad he's inherited for himself, rather than jump to conclusions. As I said before, this game was a great opportunity to try a few things out, whilst highlighting the problem areas. The biggest plus for me was that there was far greater evidence of the players having some freedom of expression than we saw under AVB (with the exception of the unstoppable Bale train).

Good start.

 

[Spurs Lodge Kittens]

Not getting some of the comments about Capoue. Strange how different people can focus on completely different things. Yeah, he faded a bit and lost the ball a few times, but he also broke play up a fair few times and immediately looked to to transition the play forward, usually with a pretty sharply conceived and well executed pass. That pass for Soldado, in the second half, when he won the ball in the centre-circle, immediately saw Soldado's run and hit him with an excellent first time ball was just what we need. It was his first game back after a first season at a new club that went down the pan with injury and not being played, against a pretty decent team who are in the middle of their season and pretty sharp in the tackle and on the intercept. I didn't think it was at all bad.

Strange comments from Windy about the Freund/Holtby dynamic.

All in all, not so bad. As someone commented on the defence, most of them won't be starting and a few will be elsewhere, Don't panic Captain Mainwaring

Exactly. Capoue has a picture in his head of what he's going to do with the ball before it comes to him. Take Lennon for example - he gets it and then thinks. Which usually ends with him stopping his forward progress and passing it back to the centre mid. Back in the day, he used to charge forward at least, but not now.

But my point about Capoue is that he can manipulate the ball on the half turn very well which can quicken our play

 

[theShiznit]

Not getting some of the comments about Capoue. Strange how different people can focus on completely different things. Yeah, he faded a bit and lost the ball a few times, but he also broke play up a fair few times and immediately looked to to transition the play forward, usually with a pretty sharply conceived and well executed pass. That pass for Soldado, in the second half, when he won the ball in the centre-circle, immediately saw Soldado's run and hit him with an excellent first time ball was just what we need. It was his first game back after a first season at a new club that went down the pan with injury and not being played, against a pretty decent team who are in the middle of their season and pretty sharp in the tackle and on the intercept. I didn't think it was at all bad.

Strange comments from Windy about the Freund/Holtby dynamic.

All in all, not so bad. As someone commented on the defence, most of them won't be starting and a few will be elsewhere, Don't panic Captain Mainwaring

He did hit some very good first time balls but does look cumbersome and his touch at times was appalling but they've not had long working with the ball since returning so well gloss over that. Can see him starting both our remaining games on this tour so well see how he shapes up.

 

[Thailand_Yid]

Ceballos has been my most favorite and excited player since first day he joined us after GDS and above anyone else in the team now, always interesting to read news about him but no one on this site rated him much he not popular here, really hope he get more first team games this season. I think this boy can be use in any attacking positions-he's a dark horse indeed. Glad to see him play tonight( yes it's night in my country).

PS. Just a little about home shirt I never like the blue line across the chest so the collar too never fan of this collar, look the same template as last year just ruined it by add stupid line and put more colour on, will be perfect for the cycling team than football(should have helmet gear come with the shirt?), also never like the red AIA on it even I'm Asian but my family are the customer of another their big competitor Insurance company so I don't think it will effect more to growing fan in Asia by just sponsor are the big company here, I been spurs fan more than 20 yrs so I hate red.

 

[Spurger King]

Exactly. Capoue has a picture in his head of what he's going to do with the ball before it comes to him. Take Lennon for example - he gets it and then thinks. Which usually ends with him stopping his forward progress and passing it back to the centre mid. Back in the day, he used to charge forward at least, but not now.

But my point about Capoue is that he can manipulate the ball on the half turn very well which can quicken our play

Capoue has the potential to be our most important CM. I liked him a lot before we signed him, and it was largely due to his ability to read a game, and pick out a smart pass. He's not at his best, but I hope people give him a bit more time.

 

[Amo]

Does anybody else pronounce Capoue as Ca-pu-ey in their heads? I just don't feel comfortable thinking out his name the way it's actually pronounced.

Just me? Okay den.

 

[Spurger King]

Ceballos has been my most favorite and excited player since first day he joined us after GDS and above anyone else in the team now, always interesting to read news about him but no one on this site rated him much he not popular here, really hope he get more first team games this season. I think this boy can be use in any attacking positions-he's a dark horse indeed. Glad to see him play tonight( yes it's night at my country).

I've followed his Spurs career closely since he joined. Has regularly received positive reviews playing for our reserves or Spurs XI, but has never really been given a chance for the first-team. By all accounts he's a good finisher as well.

 

[StartingPrice]

Exactly. Capoue has a picture in his head of what he's going to do with the ball before it comes to him. Take Lennon for example - he gets it and then thinks. Which usually ends with him stopping his forward progress and passing it back to the centre mid. Back in the day, he used to charge forward at least, but not now.

But my point about Capoue is that he can manipulate the ball on the half turn very well which can quicken our play

This. He did it a few times early in today's game and we looked so threatening when he did.

Like I said, it amazes me that some folk were so fixated on him losing the ball a few times that they didn't see a player who breaks play up and then sets us moving sharply forward in an instant with a clever, usually well-executed pass.