So, you got what you wanted...

[Rout-Ledge]

as I said their last 2 were on the counter. when are people going to understand if a team parks the bus it makes it very hard to break them down, IF you take the lead the bus doesn't stay parked and allows you more room to hit them for a 2nd. if you concede, then their bus is parked again, but also leaves yourselves even more open to be hit on the counter.

their 1st goal came from a corner, how dare we concede them under any manager, against a team like Wet Spam

Good teams don't lose 3-0 to West Ham at home, it simply doesn't happen. Why try and defend an indefensible result?

We've been trashed three times very recently. Soundly and comprehensively beaten, to nothing in reply.

It's not a coincidence we barely scored from open play under AVB this season. We haven't yet beaten a team by more than one goal in the league. When you can't score and you're shipping them in by the half dozen, you have to say....enough's enough.

 

[CowInAComa]

Its very likely that Sherwood has ruled himself out of the role anyway. So comparing Sherwoods tenure to AvBs is sort of irrelevant.

We need to see who is going to be in charge before we judge how much we have gained from sacking AvB.

 

[Kendall]

Haha that's pretty funny considering your history Kendall.

What's my history?

Thinking that Soldado probably wasn't the right fit for AVB's system? Nightmare.

 

[Nocando]

Its very likely that Sherwood has ruled himself out of the role anyway. So comparing Sherwoods tenure to AvBs is sort of irrelevant.

We need to see who is going to be in charge before we judge how much we have gained from sacking AvB.

Typical Spurs fan getting ready to judge before the new manager has even played a game.

 

[Rout-Ledge]

Agreed up until bold. Please no - I´d rather keep Sherwood on a twenty year contract.

Yeah, fuck those managers who've consistently won trophies their entire careers.

Tim and Les all the way.

 

[only1waddle]

We created openings, not fantastic ones maybe but still a number of half decent ones. As for a link between attack and midfield, I think Adebayor did a good job. I'm not going to say it was a fantastic performance, but that should have been more than enough to see off Spam until the defence had a collective nightmare and stuffed us.

Once again Defoe gets a glorious chance to finish against the Spam and fluff's his lines.

 

[barry]

Really? How old are you if you din't mind me asking. You can't be any older than 15 if this is the worse you've witnessed. Sorry if this has outed you and there's some sort of age restriction on this site and you end up getting banned.

I'm not saying this is the worst team I've ever witnessed but it's the most embarrassing because of the personnel we have available. The teams of the mid to late nineties and most of the first part of this century were bad, with one or two good players so expectations were lower, and it was probably a happier time because when you did get a big win you were enthralled rather than expectant. Saying that I don't remember us being hammered so many times in a single season.
Oh and there's no age restriction on the site, but thanks for your concern

 

[Bus-Conductor]

We created openings, not fantastic ones maybe but still a number of half decent ones. As for a link between attack and midfield, I think Adebayor did a good job. I'm not going to say it was a fantastic performance, but that should have been more than enough to see off Spam until the defence had a collective nightmare and stuffed us.

Come on MP, thats the same as we have been saying all season. The chances we created tonight were no better than we have created the rest of the season, less than some games. The biggest difference was the amount of quality chances West ham's reserves created, and not just on the break like last time.

After the first 20 minutes that game was a fucking mess.

 

[Flashspur]

makes me laugh how people blame a formation for our woes, talk about clutching at straws. even then the terrible 442 had us 1-0 up and it was only when we changed to everyone's favourite 451/4231/4411/whatever you want to call it that conceded twice and lost.

yeah for 4-4-2, 4-2-3-1 whatever....we still lost.....something fundamentally wrong with the team at the moment....no motivation and can you blame them?

 

[Marcus_spur]

Yeah, fuck those managers who've consistently won trophies their entire careers.

Tim and Les all the way.

Rafa has been a lucky joke ever since his Valencia-days. Cracks covered up by extremely talented players (who came before him) and silly money. Saw his real skills in Inter. Now, if you thought our football under AVB was turgid at times, Capello will truly show you a new dimension of turgidity.

 

[Nocando]

I'm not saying this is the worst team I've ever witnessed but it's the most embarrassing because of the personnel we have available. The teams of the mid to late nineties and most of the first part of this century were bad, with one or two good players so expectations were lower, and it was probably a happier time because when you did get a big win you were enthralled rather than expectant. Saying that I don't remember us being hammered so many times in a single season.

Didn't we get hammered like 3 or 4 times towards the end of the season a few years back. In fact If I could be bothered I could real off a lot of really miserable matches (i could probably do that more than our good ones to be fair). Youre definitely exaggerating.

 

[Rocksuperstar]

Whilst it might not be the best worded post and sound a bit gloaty, i do see what Rez is saying.

Too many of our fans are convinced that the grass is always greener somewhere else. If it's not the fans then it's the players, if it's not the players it's the manager, if it's not the manager then it's the chairman or the board.

What would any of you have done in Levy's position? If anything he's done exactly what the fans have demanded - The fans cried out and Harry was replaced with a younger, more modern manager. The fans wanted money, so he gave a fortune to spend and managed to negotiate an astronomical fee for Bale to fund that. He's seen the poor style of football and again, as the fans were bawling, sacked AVB and now even Sherwood has delivered exactly what so many were crying out for. So many fans demanding so much change but, when as each gate to each new field opens, it's turned out that the grass isn't greener at all almost every time.

We can spend all day and night pointing fingers of blame but when we're shown to have been wrong by getting exactly what we wanted, instead of holding up our hands and accepting we perhaps don't have the crystal ball or coaching wisdom we all think we do, we demand yet more change.

Maybe Levy would do better if he just did whatever he wanted and ignored us - and perhaps that would even sit right with the way things are going, afterall, if it's not working then there's always change, that other field over there looks like it's got exceptionally green grass in it...

 

[CowInAComa]

Oh no! All of our problems havent been solved in the 72 hours since we sacked the manager.

 

[Ribble]

Rafa has been a lucky joke ever since his Valencia-days. Cracks cover up by extremey talented players (who came before him) and silly money. Saw his real skills in Inter. Now, if you thought our football under AVB was turgid at times, Capello will truly show you a new dimension of turgidity.

I'm not fan of Benitez, but I don't think saying his time at Inter was an accurate representation of his ability is at all fair. You only need look at just how shite they've been since Mourinho to see it was far more that Jose was working wonders. He did well at Chelsea in spite of their fans (which will never not be funny) and is doing well with Napoli too at the moment.

 

[barry]

Didn't we get hammered like 3 or 4 times towards the end of the season a few years back. In fact If I could be bothered I could real off a lot of really miserable matches (i could probably do that more than our good ones to be fair). Youre definitely exaggerating.

Name them mate. I remember the 7-1 against Newcastle from around 15 years ago, Chelsea battered us a few times, city hit us for five in Harry's last season, but I cant think of a spell where we've been battered so much within 1 season let alone 16 matches

 

[Marcus_spur]

I'm not fan of Benitez, but I don't think saying his time at Inter was an accurate representation of his ability is at all fair. You only need look at just how shite they've been since Mourinho to see it was far more that Jose was working wonders. He did well at Chelsea in spite of their fans (which will never not be funny) and is doing well with Napoli too at the moment.

True, Inter really is a low point. Anyhow, I find him to be a poor manager who represents terrible values and shit football (except Valencia).

 

[CornerPinDreamer]

so thread summary is AVB nutsuckers think we are ruined after a 1-2 to wet spam but are ok with repeated ass rapings


ok.... errr

 

[Rout-Ledge]

Rafa has been a lucky joke ever since his Valencia-days. Cracks cover up by extremey talented players (who came before him) and silly money. Saw his real skills in Inter. Now, if you thought our football under AVB was turgid at times, Capello will truly show you a new dimension of turgidity.

I don't think either of those managers would be ideal, but come on, be serious: you're comparing managers who have won titles and champions leagues to a man who's never managed a club in his life, doesn't read broadsheets because there are 'too many words' and actively and publicly undermined AVB after only a couple of months in the job.

 

[Marcus_spur]

I don't think either of those managers would be ideal, but come on, be serious: you're comparing managers who have won titles and champions leagues to a man who's never managed a club in his life, doesn't read broadsheets because there are 'too many words' and actively and publicly undermined AVB after only a couple of months in the job.

Tongue in cheek. Thought it was obvious.

 

[mpickard2087]

Come on MP, thats the same as we have been saying all season. The chances we created tonight were no better than we have created the rest of the season, less than some games. The biggest difference was the amount of quality chances West ham's reserves created, and not just on the break like last time.

After the first 20 minutes that game was a fucking mess.

I've said the same myself elsewhere, it was a bright start but got scrappy. I am not a fan of the formation, the personnel or think we should be playing this way long term... but I cant agree with people saying it was the formation and a consequence of 'lottery football' that is why we lost tonight... It wasn't end to end, they barely had a sniff until the started pumping long balls forward and we defended disgustingly. That's where all their chances came from (not counting the injury time stuff). Individual errors cost us. We could have been playing 4-3-3, 4-2-3-1 (and we did concede after bringing on the extra midfielder), whatever, it wouldn't have mattered a jot if you defend like that.