So, you got what you wanted...

[Nocando]

Name them mate. I remember the 7-1 against Newcastle from around 15 years ago, Chelsea battered us a few times, city hit us for five in Harry's last season, but I cant think of a spell where we've been battered so much within 1 season let alone 16 matches

2011/12 - We lost:

5-1 City
5-2 Arsenal
5-1 Chelsea

http://www.topspurs.com/201112.htm

There's plenty of others but I can't be bothered to keep proving my point.

 

[kitchen]

Good teams don't lose 3-0 to West Ham at home, it simply doesn't happen. Why try and defend an indefensible result?

We've been trashed three times very recently. Soundly and comprehensively beaten, to nothing in reply.

It's not a coincidence we barely scored from open play under AVB this season. We haven't yet beaten a team by more than one goal in the league. When you can't score and you're shipping them in by the half dozen, you have to say....enough's enough.

Yes but due to injuries our defence is currently shocking. Chiriches is a good player, but won't win anything in the air. This was pretty much a nightmare match up for him. Whilst from what I've seen, Capoue is a really poor centre back. Once they went 1-0 down, West Ham lofted a few long balls, Chiriches lost the aerial duel, and Capoue failed to get to the second ball EVERY TIME. I don't understand why Capoue wasn't going for the aerial duel, and Chiriches the second ball, but I'm not sure it would have made much difference. To add to that, Rose was playing great, but had to be replaced by Fryers, who was poor, and should have got closer to the winger that crossed the ball for their winner.

I guarantee that with even Dawson available and certainly with Vertonghen or Kaboul too, we win that game. The problem was that we just didn't have the players to cope with their shitty long ball tactics. You might argue that our midfield was a little weak, but they scored both goals by bypassing the midfield with a long ball. We defend the long ball properly, and they get no possession in our half.

However, defensively, we only had available who was on the pitch, and for Sherwood, the things that cost him were:

1. The Townsend injury
2. Having to take Rose off because he was tired
3. Not taking the chances we did have

Other than that, there were encouraging signs, some good width, plenty of crosses into the box. What else are you meant to do against a team that plays narrow and packs the box with players? Play through the middle? It was an utterly dominant first half, and with another sub (gained because of Townsend) in the second, someone like Eriksen might have provided the guile we needed to unlock their packed box.

 

[Flashspur]

I'm certainly glad AVB has gone

whats the mood like over at the other place Barry?

 

[mpickard2087]

These are the same reasons/excuses that some of us were making after other games. Our goal came from a break from their pressure. I don't care about the formation so much as long as we look vaguely coherent and work hard, press coherently etc. After a first 20 minute hurrah that game degenerated into a lottery and got worse as the game went on.

Sigurdsson in a CM2 was as stupid as anything AVB has done, as was leaving Defoe on the pitch or Lennon.

I think Rose and Adebayor were planned subs due to lack of fitness, and then Townsend got injured...

It became scrappy, but I don't think it was a 'lottery' really, this wasn't Redknapp-football at its most notorious. It wasn't end to end and them cutting through us as much as we got through them, despite the weak looking midfield (though, we are lacking options, Sigurdsson was a strange one). All they did was punt it long, they didn't have a sniff before that, and we didn't challenge for it and that's where the problems came from. You'd expect even our patched up defence to put up a better showing than they did.

 

[Davo99]

Our mistake is not sacking good managers, its continuously employing crap ones.

AVB isn't a crap manager. His record proves this. His record at Spurs! A record points tally and our best ever Premiership manager. But we get badly beaten away at the best team in the league and get badly beat at home with 10 men and no defence against the league's best striker and we sack the bloke. To get in who? The club don't even know. It's just to appease the shit fans who just boo if we don't win every game. They're the problem. This isn't about AVB. It's about the way the club is run and pig-headed fans are too simple to realise they're the cause of the problem. I guarantee if arsenal weren't doing so well AVB would still be in charge.

 

[Flashspur]

Rafa has been a lucky joke ever since his Valencia-days. Cracks cover up by extremey talented players (who came before him) and silly money. Saw his real skills in Inter. Now, if you thought our football under AVB was turgid at times, Capello will truly show you a new dimension of turgidity.

stable turgidity mind

 

[tiger666]

AVB isn't a crap manager. His record proves this. His record at Spurs! A record points tally and our best ever Premiership manager. But we get badly beaten away at the best team in the league and get badly beat at home with 10 men and no defence against the league's best striker and we sack the bloke. To get in who? The club don't even know. It's just to appease the shit fans who just boo if we don't win every game. They're the problem. This isn't about AVB. It's about the way the club is run and pig-headed fans are too simple to realise they're the cause of the problem. I guarantee if arsenal weren't doing so well AVB would still be in charge.

Ridiculous statement. So all our problems are down to the fans? Amazing.

 

[Lighty64]

Good teams don't lose 3-0 to West Ham at home, it simply doesn't happen. Why try and defend an indefensible result?

We've been trashed three times very recently. Soundly and comprehensively beaten, to nothing in reply.

It's not a coincidence we barely scored from open play under AVB this season. We haven't yet beaten a team by more than one goal in the league. When you can't score and you're shipping them in by the half dozen, you have to say....enough's enough.

i'm not defending a 3-0 home loss to Wet Spam, I was fucking fuming, all i'm saying is once we conceded the 1st we were always going to be more open in trying to find an equaliser, on this one occasion they got us twice, their 3rd being a brilliant break. Arscum should of never lost 3-1 at home to Villa, Manure should of never lost at home to West Brom, and would you of put money on Man City losing away to Cardiff?.

in football occasionally you get freak results, this season we have been on the end of 2 at home, but the Liverpool game our defence was all over the place due to injuries, and as soon as Sandro went off and Paulinho sent off we were up shit creek without a paddle

so why wasn't Redknapp sacked after the 1st 2 games of his last season, a FEEBLE 3-0 away loss to Man U, and a 5-1 drubbing at home from City. then lost later to Arscum 5-2 after being 2-0 up.

it's not AvB's fault that we weren't scoring, he wasn't the one missing all the chances, and most of the 1-0 results bar Hull flattered the losing team, as did Newcastles 1-0 win at the lane.

 

[Nocando]

Name them mate. I remember the 7-1 against Newcastle from around 15 years ago, Chelsea battered us a few times, city hit us for five in Harry's last season, but I cant think of a spell where we've been battered so much within 1 season let alone 16 matches

Actually I'll give you another slightly further back but brings back bad memories.

http://www.topspurs.com/200203.htm

2002/03

Terrible finish to the season..

18-Apr-03FA Prem36,075HManchester CityL0-2
21-Apr-03FA Prem26,899AWest Bromwich AlbionW3-2Keane (2), Sheringham
27-Apr-03FA Prem36,073HManchester UnitedL0-2
03-May-03FA Prem30,230AMiddlesbroughL1-5Redknapp
11-May-03FA Prem36,036HBlackburn RoversL0-4



Honourable mentions of that season include:

Losing 3-0 to Arsenal
4-0 to Southampton
And 3-0 to Middlesborough at home (that's a thrashing home and away to dross).

Finished 10th though so it wasn't all bad..

 

[CowInAComa]

AVB isn't a crap manager. His record proves this. His record at Spurs! A record points tally and our best ever Premiership manager. But we get badly beaten away at the best team in the league and get badly beat at home with 10 men and no defence against the league's best striker and we sack the bloke. To get in who? The club don't even know. It's just to appease the shit fans who just boo if we don't win every game. They're the problem. This isn't about AVB. It's about the way the club is run and pig-headed fans are too simple to realise they're the cause of the problem. I guarantee if arsenal weren't doing so well AVB would still be in charge.

I watched the football under AvB. It was crap.

 

[CowInAComa]

Actually I'll give you another slightly further back but brings back bad memories.

http://www.topspurs.com/200203.htm

2002/03

Terrible finish to the season..

18-Apr-03FA Prem36,075HManchester CityL0-2
21-Apr-03FA Prem26,899AWest Bromwich AlbionW3-2Keane (2), Sheringham
27-Apr-03FA Prem36,073HManchester UnitedL0-2
03-May-03FA Prem30,230AMiddlesbroughL1-5Redknapp
11-May-03FA Prem36,036HBlackburn RoversL0-4



Honourable mentions of that season include:

Losing 3-0 to Arsenal
4-0 to Southampton
And 3-0 to Middlesborough at home (that's a thrashing home and away to dross).

Finished 10th though so it wasn't all bad..

What was the squad like during that season?

 

[Flashspur]

These are the same reasons/excuses that some of us were making after other games. Our goal came from a break from their pressure. I don't care about the formation so much as long as we look vaguely coherent and work hard, press coherently etc. After a first 20 minute hurrah that game degenerated into a lottery and got worse as the game went on.

Sigurdsson in a CM2 was as stupid as anything AVB has done, as was leaving Defoe on the pitch or Lennon.

the Siggy role was bizzare in extreme...dont know what young Timmy was thinking about there

 

[guy]

This thread is god awful

We've played one game under a new management team with 2 days prep, not to mention a shit load of injuries. I think they might need just a little bit longer to change things for the better

If our confidence in front of goal wasnt completely shot to bits by your mate AVB, we would've been 2 or 3 up at half time, then what would you have been whinging about? We're scoring TOO many goals, therefore making the poor scoreboard operator work too hard?

FFS pathetic

 

[Legend10]

AVB isn't a crap manager. His record proves this. His record at Spurs! A record points tally and our best ever Premiership manager. But we get badly beaten away at the best team in the league and get badly beat at home with 10 men and no defence against the league's best striker and we sack the bloke. To get in who? The club don't even know. It's just to appease the shit fans who just boo if we don't win every game. They're the problem. This isn't about AVB. It's about the way the club is run and pig-headed fans are too simple to realise they're the cause of the problem. I guarantee if arsenal weren't doing so well AVB would still be in charge.

How can you guarantee that if Arsenal weren't doing so well that AVB would still be in charge?

That's like somebody else saying they guarantee that losing 3-0 6-0 & 5-0 in a matter of a few weeks had no baring on his sacking.

 

[nikojev]

Meltdown!

 

[Davo99]

Ridiculous statement. So all our problems are down to the fans? Amazing.

The fans got AVB sacked. There's no doubt in my mind. And in doing so blew what was a great opportunity we had in having AVB as boss. Can't see the wood for the trees.

 

[Nocando]

What was the squad like during that season?

Bugger off with your moving the goalposts argument. I was discussing individual bad results / witnessing embarrassing football.

Don't make me unleash the George Graham and Ramos stats on you.

 

[tiger666]

The fans got AVB sacked. There's no doubt in my mind. And in doing so blew what was a great opportunity we had in having AVB as boss. Can't see the wood for the trees.

Is it lonely up on your pedestal?

 

[Davo99]

I watched the football under AvB. It was crap.

Who do you think we are? Barcelona, Bayern Munich? It's funny because what pisses me off about Spurs fans - you're exhibit A.

 

[Davo99]

Is it lonely up on your pedestal?

Is it fun booing your own players because they didn't win?