Match Threads Spurs vs Liverpool - Match Day 7 - 30th Sept KO 5:30pm

[fishhhandaricecake]

Can the game be replayed or more likely just that possible changes to VAR moving forwards.

It’s funny because when Carroll of Man.U threw Pedro Mendes shot 3 foot into his net and the officials missed that back then we didn’t call our mummies and spit out our dummies and request all sorts. Suppose we were just little old tottenham back then.

Officials have made mistakes for years throughout the history of football, it’s part of football. Sure with technology it should minimise mistakes but if anything it’s just showing that VAR and that type of technology doesn’t really work very well in a sport like football compared to how it’s used in Tennis, Cricket etc.

Just get rid of VAR and get rid of Liverpool then we can all move on with our lives.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

Why does it leave them open?

"They bloody love to kick up a stink. Such an annoying club"

haha

I’ve not seen the latest statement , I thought you meant it leaves them open legally or something not just open to other fans thinking they’re annoying

 

[WiganSpur]

The problem, certainly for the PGMOL, is that there are some very powerful voices making money off these mistakes. Webb should never have agreed to take part in that TV show the other week. They need to show some real steel now; get the PL bigwigs in and together read the riot act to the various managers / clubs. They've dug themselves into a hole with all these apologies. It's never going to end.

There needs to be accountability though. That decision could have been easily the other way round and impacted us. I mean think Pedro Mendes all those years ago, and many other scandalous decisions.

PGMOL and the referees are an old boys club. VAR is only a fraction of the problem - there are a number of small issues with it. Officials, whether on field or VAR, should be sacked or demoted for underperformance. We need churn in the referees until we find a group of young ones who aren't incompetent. There needs to be an independent body tallying referee performance in every game (perhaps this would be a former player or manager and former referee present at every game). Every month based off that tally referees should be relegated to a lower division and replaced with the best performer in the league below. The match fees should reflect the level the referees are officiating. So if you are useless you get paid less and don't get the gig back in a few weeks until you put in a consistent streak of performances. Everyone makes mistakes , but this would at least provide us with referees in the top division who are at least the best we've got. We need complete meritocracy, fuck experience. Most of the experienced ones are useless.

 

[tototoner]

The counter-press begins

https://www.football365.com/news/sy...limitless-sporting-integrity-statement-absurd

Loved this line from that article


Ange Postecoglou – predictably enough in his now established role as the Premier League’s dad –

 

[Misfit]

Can the game be replayed or more likely just that possible changes to VAR moving forwards.

It’s funny because when Carroll of Man.U threw Pedro Mendes shot 3 foot into his net and the officials missed that back then we didn’t call our mummies and spit out our dummies and request all sorts. Suppose we were just little old tottenham back then.

Officials have made mistakes for years throughout the history of football, it’s part of football. Sure with technology it should minimise mistakes but if anything it’s just showing that VAR and that type of technology doesn’t really work very well in a sport like football compared to how it’s used in Tennis, Cricket etc.

Just get rid of VAR and get rid of Liverpool then we can all move on with our lives.

Unless there's a way of making it 100% effective as it is expected and supposed to be, it's just amplifying the usual tedious complaints about officiating - which have always existed - to ridiculously hysterical levels. Creating a bigger problem than the one that existed before.

Teams got screwed before by cretins, they're still screwed now by cretins but now with added incredulity.

If they could implement it like they do in rugby then it's doable but what are the chances of that? Minimal IMO after a lifetime of watching football and those involved with it.

 

[mano-obe]

It won't be replayed but I think this will make significant changes to VAR or transparency. Lots of video technology has referees calling it out loud and clear. VAR has always had this secrecy surrounding it and some bizarre decisions and lines drawn.

Of course it happened to be those victims finally getting it changed. They complain baout eveything

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

I’ve not seen the latest statement , I thought you meant it leaves them open legally or something not just open to other fans thinking they’re annoying

haha, nah, this is all going to end (IMO) with a huge overhaul in procedure and/or rules and of course I could be wrong, I often am, but I think Liverpool intend to make it as uncomfortable as they can for them so that this actually facilitates a real change. Not that there isn't a different ending or intent, just my guess.

 

[newbie]

There may be an FA review of Macallister comments about 12men.
OMG tip them over the edge.

They also got a fine for 6 yellow cards

 

[WiganSpur]

Unless there's a way of making it 100% effective as it is expected and supposed to be, it's just amplifying the usual tedious complaints about officiating - which have always existed - to ridiculously hysterical levels. Creating a bigger problem than the one that existed before.

Teams got screwed before by cretins, they're still screwed now by cretins but now with added incredulity.

If they could implement it like they do in rugby then it's doable but what are the chances of that? Minimal IMO after a lifetime of watching football and those involved with it.

Added to my previous point about a tally of referee performance with incentives tagged on, if nothing improves the Premier League should also be fully prepared to eschew PGMOL and bring in some of the best foreign referees if that is a possibility. The PL is the best league in the world so it may be possible to attract them with a better pay packet.

 

[newbie]

Can the game be replayed or more likely just that possible changes to VAR moving forwards.

It’s funny because when Carroll of Man.U threw Pedro Mendes shot 3 foot into his net and the officials missed that back then we didn’t call our mummies and spit out our dummies and request all sorts. Suppose we were just little old tottenham back then.

Officials have made mistakes for years throughout the history of football, it’s part of football. Sure with technology it should minimise mistakes but if anything it’s just showing that VAR and that type of technology doesn’t really work very well in a sport like football compared to how it’s used in Tennis, Cricket etc.

Just get rid of VAR and get rid of Liverpool then we can all move on with our lives.

Exactly

 

[Col_M]

https://media.tenor.com/yTxA7WgkBEUAAAAC/grandpa-abe-exit.gif

FFS how do I post a Gif?!

 

[Gb160]

https://media.tenor.com/yTxA7WgkBEUAAAAC/grandpa-abe-exit.gif

FFS how do I post a Gif?!

Like this

 

[spursgirls]

I do hope this doesn’t interfere with Brighton V Liverpool this weekend, there is going to be so much scrutiny over the officials, no doubt Klopp will bring it up in his press conference. Hope the ref is strong enough not to let pressure get to him (in terms of giving Liverpool dodgy decisions). Shit game to officiate

Sadly, I think they will get the easy line from the ref.

 

[TOLBINY]

The guys at Stockley Park made an error in understanding what the on -field decision was. As far as we know that has never led to such a mistake before. It is a one off. To stop it happening again they should do what they do in cricket when there is a review one of the first things you hear the third umpire say is "review for lbw on field decision is out / not out"

Over the years VAR will have corrected many offside decisions leading to a goal, and as such it is an improvement.

Move on.

 

[daveduvet]

This is Liverpool right now:

 

[Cornpattbuck]

Think they reckon by challenging the red card decision they will get that overturned because of the offside call. They really are different breed.

Hope the FA add an extra game suspension for challenging the decision as it's a clear red.

Van Dijk got an extra game recently after Liverpool complained.

And I thought there was a precident for calling out teams who regularly challenge red cards - let alone a team that's got 4 already, I think, in 7 games...

 

[ripley]

 

[chas vs dave]

The ball went through to Diaz,
And then went up the flag, They looked at it at Stockley, But V-A-R is crap, They cried about bookings, been doing it for years,
We crossed the ball to Matip and danced in Scouser tears...
Allez Allez Allez

 

[EireYid]

The more I see this challenge the worse it gets, I'm actually baffled it's being debated so much.

 

[Oscar22]

I really dont see why it’s so difficult with VAR tbh. The way it works in other sports, the main difference is the open and transparent conversation between officials.

The offside call from Saturday appears now to have been due to no conversation followed by simply “check complete” (according to MNF).

How easily is that solved by the direction being for VAR to feed back the decision even if it seems “obvious”. Instead of check complete, it’s “we’ve drawn the lines, and Romeros foot is in a position which means that at the time the ball is played, Diaz is level and onside. Decision is onside and goal to stand.”

Explain offsides by clearly saying where you are drawing lines and what the decision is as a result, would also help questions around someone’s knee/armpit/heel playing someone on, seems really quite straight forward doesn’t it? ….surely?

Just an issue of transparency and communication.