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Study shows we should be third....

ryantegan

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If we miss out, then I could see Daniel using this in the court of arbitration
 

Spursidol

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Cue calls for technology, review key decisions on video by 4th/5th/6th official etc to take football out of 19th century and leapfrog into 21st century
 

StartingPrice

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Nice to see it done scientifically - though, I am sure, they could be quibbles about selection criteria and subjective interpretation on some of the additions/exclusions.
But it is pretty much what I knew, anyway, and one agianst those who have been arguing that we haven't been on the rough end quite so much this season as usual.

Should have added, we might, just possibily, have also played in an FA final :mad:
 

Riandor

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Actually shows that Liverpool have suffered quite badly actually.

As for Stoke, sheesh, serious points gained.

For us? 3pts clear, but still with a last day match to not lose and it shows for us it has be relatively even!
 

oohaahedgar

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We may have actually been even higher as it doesn't take into consideration the bad decisions have on morale etc. We could already be 3rd and FA CUP WINNERS. What this proves is the old " it all evens itself out over a season" cliché is in fact bollocks.
 

Spurger King

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It's all a load of bollocks though isn't it? We can't just assume that if a wrongly disallowed goal had actually been given that the rest of the game would unfold in exactly the same way.

Basic chaos theory puts pay to that. For instance if Adebayor's disallowed goal against Stoke had counted, how do we know whether or not Stoke would rally and get another goal. Maybe the game would have become even more aggressive, leading to one or two of our players getting injured, and perhaps another sending off. All of which would have a knock on effect for the next few games, and consequently the rest of the season.
 

Riandor

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We may have actually been even higher as it doesn't take into consideration the bad decisions have on morale etc. We could already be 3rd and FA CUP WINNERS. What this proves is the old " it all evens itself out over a season" cliché is in fact bollocks.
It's too subjective though and there is a huge assumption that every penalty is scored as well.

No, for me it suggests (rather than proves) that whilst we have suffered, we have not had the worst luck AND we have had a fair few decisions go for us. However, yes, it could well cost us a CL position, but look, it could cost Man United the Title!


What it proves is that there are too many high profile mistakes!!
R.
 

mattyspurs

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All I know and care about, is that had we won just one more game this season, we would be sitting in third place, just having to play Fulham at home on Sunday.
 

stevenurse

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Doesn't need a scientific study to prove that, we cocked it up ourselves. We didn't get bad decisions against wolves (h), Norwich (h), qpr (a) and villa (a).

Poor performances is the reason we aren't 3rd, we have a golden opportunity to rectify it but the spurs fan in me says we will throw it away
 

Spurger King

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Doesn't need a scientific study to prove that, we cocked it up ourselves. We didn't get bad decisions against wolves (h), Norwich (h), qpr (a) and villa (a).

Poor performances is the reason we aren't 3rd, we have a golden opportunity to rectify it but the spurs fan in me says we will throw it away

Didn't we have a perfectly good goal by Adebayor disallowed?
 

stevenurse

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Probably to be fair, he's had enough. Even so, wolves are a terrible team, embarrassingly bad and to not beat them is astonishingly poor
 

Ionman34

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Strangely enough, I was having a conversation with my Dad, this afternoon, that was along these lines. The conversation stemmed from discussing how the game has evolved, playing wise, from when he was going to WHL back in the 50's & 60's. Matches today are still policed in the same manner they were over 100 years ago. Back then it worked as the game was significantly slower. Additionally you didn't have conmen swan diving all over the gaff.

FIFA has let us down terribly with their refusal to evolve their officialing in line with the modern game. Further refusal only has me believing that there is an ulterior motive, particularly when the beneficiaries, in the main, are those teams that contain 'Big Name' players, the ones that they want to see gracing their showpiece Champions League.

Call me a conspiracy theorist all you will, I have felt this for a while now and feel that as each year passes, with FIFA continually ignoring the demands of the rest of the World, the smoke gets thicker and the flames are more evident.
 

JohanTheYid

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Doesn't need a scientific study to prove that, we cocked it up ourselves. We didn't get bad decisions against wolves (h), Norwich (h), qpr (a) and villa (a).

Poor performances is the reason we aren't 3rd, we have a golden opportunity to rectify it but the spurs fan in me says we will throw it away

Your point is completely valid, but free kick from which winning goal was scored given for deliberate handball against Sandro who was (A) not even looking at the ball, and (b) just trying to get back to his feet.

Like I say though, your point being that we should have had it sewn up already is correct
 

talkshowhost86

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It's all a load of bollocks though isn't it? We can't just assume that if a wrongly disallowed goal had actually been given that the rest of the game would unfold in exactly the same way.

Basic chaos theory puts pay to that. For instance if Adebayor's disallowed goal against Stoke had counted, how do we know whether or not Stoke would rally and get another goal. Maybe the game would have become even more aggressive, leading to one or two of our players getting injured, and perhaps another sending off. All of which would have a knock on effect for the next few games, and consequently the rest of the season.

Exactly. It's very irritating and all that but ultimately the whole thing was more in our hands than it was the refs.
 

Star_of_Davids

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Probably to be fair, he's had enough. Even so, wolves are a terrible team, embarrassingly bad and to not beat them is astonishingly poor
the scum also drew at home to Wolves and Man U lost at home to Blackburn. Everyone (maybe not Citeh) has had the odd embarrassing result over the course of the season
 
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