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homer hotspur

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I find the Stanbouli situation all very odd. I seriously doubt that he would have been signed against Poch's wishes but he has hardly had a look in despite looking a decent squad member when he has played. Certainly there is a lack of pace but he is not alone there. I have always liked the look of him attitude wise, he has got a bit of Graham Roberts about him, but it seems his face doesn't fit for some reason. I do remember when we signed him, it was said he could play in the back 4 and he didn't look out of his comfort zone there the other day. He wouldn't be on my list to ship out - there are quite enough on that list already.
 

homer hotspur

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If Hugo does leave, which I would say is 50-50 at the moment, I don't think Vorm is up to the number one job and I would favour Begovic with perhaps Heaton as another option. There are some very good keepers out there and , although Hugo is brilliant, I think we could make a decent job of replacing him and making some decent funds to invest elsewhere. I would, however, much prefer if he stayed.
 

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The defence is a difficult one as , individually, the players we have are generally quite decent . I think it is more of a coaching problem, we give away so many awful goals where one through ball to a speedy striker is all it takes and so many basic errors of poor marking. We do lack a little pace in the centre and , ideally, a commanding centre half who has better mobility alongside JV would probably be the preferred option . Who this person is though don't know. I like Dier and think he will eventually be a first choice . It looks like Wimmer is definitely a Europa league/league cup candidate and cover . I am not sure if Fazio can cope with the Premier league, although he must have come up against speedy teams in Spain. Is it our style of play ? The problem is he hasn't even looked good against big target men and was shown up several times recently conceding goals to strikers who easily outjumped /outmuscled him. I don't really understand the alleged move for Trippier, not because of him but because we already have Walker and Yedlin, the latter looking very promising against Sydney. ( apart from looking like a strong candidate to give away some silly penalties). Unless there is something about KW's injury that we don't know, it has all the making of one of those Spurs signings where a new player simply doesn't get a look in ( be it Trippier or Yedlin) You would assume Trippier would be well aware of this situation.
 

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The Stambouli issue is interesting. If indeed Marseille have genuine interest in Stambouli and he is their number 1 target, i think we might see a player from Marseille coming to us (Imbula or Thauvin anyone?).

Here's the thing, the thing which possibly backs up your thought process. IF we aren't interested in any of Marseille's players, why on earth did Daniel Levy hold the much publicised meeting with the Marseille president, Vincent Labrune? Despite Labrune saying the talks weren't about Thauvin, there was surely a player or two that were discussed, otherwise why would Levy have been bothered to fly out to Marseille?

Surely if it was anything to with Stambouli, it would have been Labrune who flew to Levy, not the other way round?

http://hereisthecity.com/en-gb/2015...nham-have-yet-to-hold-transfer-talks-over-fl/
 

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The defence is a difficult one as , individually, the players we have are generally quite decent . I think it is more of a coaching problem, we give away so many awful goals where one through ball to a speedy striker is all it takes and so many basic errors of poor marking. We do lack a little pace in the centre and , ideally, a commanding centre half who has better mobility alongside JV would probably be the preferred option . Who this person is though don't know. I like Dier and think he will eventually be a first choice . It looks like Wimmer is definitely a Europa league/league cup candidate and cover . I am not sure if Fazio can cope with the Premier league, although he must have come up against speedy teams in Spain. Is it our style of play ? The problem is he hasn't even looked good against big target men and was shown up several times recently conceding goals to strikers who easily outjumped /outmuscled him. I don't really understand the alleged move for Trippier, not because of him but because we already have Walker and Yedlin, the latter looking very promising against Sydney. ( apart from looking like a strong candidate to give away some silly penalties). Unless there is something about KW's injury that we don't know, it has all the making of one of those Spurs signings where a new player simply doesn't get a look in ( be it Trippier or Yedlin) You would assume Trippier would be well aware of this situation.

The defence get no protection from the midfield. Our full backs push far up the field and all the opposition often do is knock the ball into space behind them. Because we don't have a defensive midfielder "sweeping" up in front of the back four (two!) one of the centre halves normally has to come across. This leaves a massive gap.

Also due to the pressing we try to employ our general defensive shape isn't classically tight.
 

homer hotspur

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Midfield- So many similar players. Still looking for that dominant ball winning box to box player. ( clearly not Capoue, Stambouli).Bentaleb showing signs of becoming stronger. Will we continue with the same formation or go 4-3-3?. I think we have probably given Dembele enough chances and , if a decent offer comes in, we should take it. He is simply too slow and doesn't create or score enough goals for a top premier league side .Lamela certainly divides opinion. I would put him in the same category as Dembele for the same reasons( except being too slow). You can't fault him for effort and there are signs of improvement so I would only let him go if a really good offer came in for him and we could re-invest.I have been suggesting Bolasie on many occasions, another player who divides opinion, but I toink he would be a very exciting attacking addition. The problem is I think he may now be beyond our reach in terms of cost and the teams likely to bid for him. Pritchard could be a real bonus for us next season . Chadli is a strange one as he doesn't seem to do a great deal other than pop up and score goals on quite a regular basis.A good knack to have but I would rather have him as an impact player with someone who offers rather more holding that position. Erikson is clearly our most talented creative player but needs to be far more consistent and we really need someone else like him when he is off his game or injured. Watching the options Arsenal had yesterday was somewhat depressing and highlighted the massive gap between us.
 

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Here's the thing, the thing which possibly backs up your thought process. IF we aren't interested in any of Marseille's players, why on earth did Daniel Levy hold the much publicised meeting with the Marseille president, Vincent Labrune? Despite Labrune saying the talks weren't about Thauvin, there was surely a player or two that were discussed, otherwise why would Levy have been bothered to fly out to Marseille?

Surely if it was anything to with Stambouli, it would have been Labrune who flew to Levy, not the other way round?

http://hereisthecity.com/en-gb/2015...nham-have-yet-to-hold-transfer-talks-over-fl/

Thanks. Yes, in a way this play abit to my thoughts. Whenever i watched Stambouli plays, i find that he is quite a decent player and does not look out of place in the Spurs team. Yeah, he can be abit short of game speed at times, but usually that can be overcome with a sustain number of competitive games. So, i theorized that there must be some sort of agreement to first buy Stambouli and then sell him to Marseille. Marseille was also strongly looking to buy Stambouli last summer, but they intend to play him mostly at CBs (Maybe the just concluded season, Marseille were comfortable with their CMs but lacking in CBs?). Now MoPo played Stambouli at CBs during the post season games (is that to show Marseille?). Maybe it is just due to the lack of CBs for the trip that made MoPo play Stambouli at CB? Or Worst case, its a hint that Vert is moving on this summer (Just in case we cannot find able replacement; although Wimmer is in)?

So like you correctly mention, there must be something going on between the 2 clubs for Levy to meet Labrune. If it's not got to do with players, then it must have something to do with a Partnership? Just my guesses, i am not privy to details.
 

homer hotspur

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It is disappointing that , once again,, we are desperate for striking re-inforcements but, due to the unfortunate failure of Soldado and the crazy world of Ade, we have basically relied totally on HK for the whole season(since he was put in the first team) and have got away with it. Seriously what would we have done if he had been badly injured? He was still our only striker in Malaysia and Sydney scoring all 3 goals. There really is nobody else. We have to get Soldado and Ade out of the club even if it results, as it will, in a large loss. We then have to bring in 2 strikers to support HK. I doubt if he will even start the season after the summer tournament. It may be difficult to convince certain players to come as they will know we play with only one up front but there must be scope to change that around. I would prefer current premier league players such as Austin, Ings, Berahino and Benteke over the various names bandied about from overseas - we don't have a good track record with these. Realistically, I think , however,we are more likely to sign only one of these and an attacking midfielder but 2 strikers is really not enough for a team trying to compete in the top 6. Most top half teams have 3 or 4 decent strikers to call on.
 

Imnotacticalgenius

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It is disappointing that , once again,, we are desperate for striking re-inforcements but, due to the unfortunate failure of Soldado and the crazy world of Ade, we have basically relied totally on HK for the whole season(since he was put in the first team) and have got away with it. Seriously what would we have done if he had been badly injured? He was still our only striker in Malaysia and Sydney scoring all 3 goals. There really is nobody else. We have to get Soldado and Ade out of the club even if it results, as it will, in a large loss. We then have to bring in 2 strikers to support HK. I doubt if he will even start the season after the summer tournament. It may be difficult to convince certain players to come as they will know we play with only one up front but there must be scope to change that around. I would prefer current premier league players such as Austin, Ings, Berahino and Benteke over the various names bandied about from overseas - we don't have a good track record with these. Realistically, I think , however,we are more likely to sign only one of these and an attacking midfielder but 2 strikers is really not enough for a team trying to compete in the top 6. Most top half teams have 3 or 4 decent strikers to call on.

Personally, i think bringing in one striker in, is good enough (Whether its Ings or from OS). I Personally feel that Chadli can be an able back up at No.9. And i also hope that MoPo seriously look at Coulthirst this coming pre-season. Next season, i expect Chadli (if he is one of the AMs), Eriksen, Lamela and Pritchard to contribute with at least 25% more goals from midfield. I am quietly confident that if Trippier comes in, we will see better delivery coming in from both sides (Rose at the other end). Even Yedlin, looks to be able to go to the bye line and cross (from the last game), but he needs the time. Better delivery percentage means better chance to score (especially Kane and Chadli, who are good in the air).

If Ade and Soldado can be sold, its good but if not, im not too worried as long as one striker (whoever this player is) comes in.
 
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It is disappointing that , once again,, we are desperate for striking re-inforcements but, due to the unfortunate failure of Soldado and the crazy world of Ade, we have basically relied totally on HK for the whole season(since he was put in the first team) and have got away with it. Seriously what would we have done if he had been badly injured? He was still our only striker in Malaysia and Sydney scoring all 3 goals. There really is nobody else. We have to get Soldado and Ade out of the club even if it results, as it will, in a large loss. We then have to bring in 2 strikers to support HK. I doubt if he will even start the season after the summer tournament. It may be difficult to convince certain players to come as they will know we play with only one up front but there must be scope to change that around. I would prefer current premier league players such as Austin, Ings, Berahino and Benteke over the various names bandied about from overseas - we don't have a good track record with these. Realistically, I think , however,we are more likely to sign only one of these and an attacking midfielder but 2 strikers is really not enough for a team trying to compete in the top 6. Most top half teams have 3 or 4 decent strikers to call on.
What team doesn't look for striker re-inforcements in today's football?

Look at some of the teams around us. Arsenal will likely be looking at strikers, Man U will be looking at strikers, as will Liverpool and Southampton.
 

Barry Mead

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flog stambouli back for what we paid, promote veljkovic in his place. everyone's a winner.


I don't see what Veljkovic gains, given his age he needs to be playing regularly to develop and gain experience, allowing what little chance Stam has been given I can't see any benefit for a less experienced and developed player.
 

alexis

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I really want an experienced, household name to come in and help out the young lads. In the way that Davids and Naybet did for us, and like Cambiasso has done for Leicester this term.
I don't know a lot about what's happening outside the PL, so who can hurl some names at me that would fit the bill? Is Del Piero still playing?
Dom Estos massive household name and will win 99% of his battles great at clearing up round the back
 

dondo

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I don't see what Veljkovic gains, given his age he needs to be playing regularly to develop and gain experience, allowing what little chance Stam has been given I can't see any benefit for a less experienced and developed player.


Loads of games next season with the el. I would play the likes of velkjovics in all the group games in el and early capital cup rounds and see how he goes
 

THFCSPURS19

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Loads of games next season with the el. I would play the likes of velkjovics in all the group games in el and early capital cup rounds and see how he goes
So...about 10 games? Compare that to 46 with a Championship club.
 

dondo

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So...about 10 games? Compare that to 46 with a Championship club.

How many games did he get at Middlesbrough this season?
The el would give him and others the chance to impress if he does well he could soon find himself playing week in week out ala Kane
 

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folks, had a thought about the squad for next summer - if we think about it we probably need 6 starters covering the centre forward role and the attackers on the left and the right - the locked in front group sees Kane, Chadli, Andros, Lamela and Eriksen filling 5 slots. For the final slot (effectively backing up Kane) what about Michu?
 

Lilbaz

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folks, had a thought about the squad for next summer - if we think about it we probably need 6 starters covering the centre forward role and the attackers on the left and the right - the locked in front group sees Kane, Chadli, Andros, Lamela and Eriksen filling 5 slots. For the final slot (effectively backing up Kane) what about Michu?

Hasn't scored since Oct 2013.
 
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