Summer Transfer Wish List - 2017

[DIEHARD]

Someone like Ibra but who isn't on 200k a week you mean.

Nah fuck it, I meant Ibrahimovic

 

[allpaths]

We won't be willing to splash cash on this fella move on.

Reportedly it's between us and atletico, depending on the player attitude towards game time and money, think we have a fairly strong chance. A lot of the larger clubs might be more reluctant with giving him a kid from the Belgian league the minutes he would like to progress. We've shown a lot of interest in tielemans and his whole situation reminds me of eriksen's at Ajaxs when we signed him. So it is very plausible.

 

[spurs9]

I think you've got to look at it in terms of what problems need solving.

The first I think is at centre back. Toby and Vertonghen are world class and there is no immediate issue there but when they are out we struggle. I don't think Wimmer is a bad CB and personally I would probably keep hold of him, but Poch does not seem to trust him. We have also seen a succession of very poor displays from Dier who really needs to buck his ideas up if he's going to cement his place in the team. CCV needs patience yet, and he also struggled against League 2 opposition in the cup.

To solve this I think we should bring in a solid centre back, pushing Dier forward into solely a midfield role. This will help with our squad depth there.

The next issue is at left back when Rose is out. I don't think Davies is a poor full back, far from it in fact, but he isn't suited to do what is being asked of him. He doesn't have that explosiveness that you need. For this reason the kid Sessegnon should be our number one priority. The boy looks like he's got everything.

Another issue is further poor squad depth in attacking areas. Questions remain over Lamela, and the longer this mess goes on the more likely I think he will leave in the summer. There's been no new contract and a few worrying signs about his injury. Secondly Sissoko is clearly not the type of player we are looking for and needs to go to raise some funds.

Son's inconsistency is highly frustrating. I wouldn't exactly be raging if he were to leave for a big fee but i'd be happy to keep him as a squad player as he can offer goals on his day.

Nkoudou is another that Pochettino doesn't seem to trust. It seems like he was just a punt, a gamble to see if he would somehow turn out to be the new Mane. It doesn't seem to have worked. From admittedly what little I have seen of him, I don't think he's set the world on fire.

For this reason I think another wide player could be needed. I know we've been linked to Bruma but I don't know a great deal about him. Even Demarai Gray could be an option there if Leicester are playing Championship football next season.

Again another issue with squad depth is an over reliance on Eriksen. We don't have anyone like him, especially if Lamela does indeed leave us. Isco is a pipedream so I would probably go for Max Meyer who is running into his final year I think. Maybe Thomas Lemar could also be a clever signing if Lamela and Sissoko both leave, being left footed. In addition we definitely need to find a place in the squad for Edwards next season.

Janssen looks unfortunately finished upfront also. Whether we will keep him or not I don't know, but regardless of whether he stays or not we need a striker. We need a threat in behind and also someone to give competition for Kane. Iheanacho would be perfect if we could get him, but there's other options from Lacazette to Plea at Nice maybe? Maybe we could find a Premier League loan for Janssen in the hope that he can pick up confidence in this league.

Finally the least of our priorities is CM. Someone top class would be nice but there are other priorities and I don't think we'd have the money to do it. We'll have Dier, Wanyama, Dembele and Winks which is not too bad, but I think we should take a punt on someone young that can operate as cover, and also prevent Dier and Wanyama from ever being a pairing again. Ronaldo Vieira from Leeds maybe?

The squad needs a lot of work, but if we are serious about winning silverware then we need to do it, because at the moment when we get even one injury it starts to look like an uphill task. It would be very helpful if we could make at least some of these changes, but I appreciate that doing everything is probably unrealistic.

I completely agree with you on the CB and LWB situation, I would have Dier fighting Wanyama for CM whilst also being a 4th or 5th choice CB option. You are right, Davies doesn't suit us at all and, whilst I worry about Sessegnon's age and in experience, I think he will turn out to be a top player and think its worth a punt.

I also agree with you about Sissoko & GKN, but I think Lamela will stay. He still has 3 years left on his contract (we activated the extra 2 year option apparently), but if he did go, he would need replacing.

Personally, I would keep Son and Janssen for one more year and have the both of them backing up Kane, plus Son is an AM option (especially for games we switch to 4-2-3-1) although if the right player became available (Iheanacho for example) I would hope to see us snap them up. Lacazette is a pipe dream IMO.

I would also only like to see us bring in 1 AM (assuming Lamela stays) with Sisoko and GKN leaving and I would want tthe AM we bring in to be a quick dribbling, direct, creative player that can play through the middle or fly down the wing but I would settle for an AM that was creative, intelligent, was a decent dribbler and had good end product. Felipe Anderson is a player that comes to mind that fits the former description. In addition to the new AM, we would still have Eriksen, Alli, Lamela, Son & Edwards, which is more than enough for 2 positions in the 3-4-2-1 we are currently playing but still enough for 4-2-3-1, should we switch back.

In regards to CM, I wouldn't want us to bring anyone else in unless we got a ridiculous offer for Dembele and then I would want someone like Tielemans or Naby Keita. I would rather have Onomah as 5th option CM than Ronaldo Vieira. I know most fans don't rate Onomah, but he has never been given a game in his natural position (CM) where he out classed Winks week in week out for the U21s. AM exposes all of Onomah's weaknesses and doesn't play to any of his strengths.Also, Erisken has played CM twice in the 3-4-2-1 formation and he was excellent both times, so that is another option we have, especially with the number of AMs at our disposal.

 

[WiganSpur]

I completely agree with you on the CB and LWB situation, I would have Dier fighting Wanyama for CM whilst also being a 4th or 5th choice CB option. You are right, Davies doesn't suit us at all and, whilst I worry about Sessegnon's age and in experience, I think he will turn out to be a top player and think its worth a punt.

I also agree with you about Sissoko & GKN, but I think Lamela will stay. He still has 3 years left on his contract (we activated the extra 2 year option apparently), but if he did go, he would need replacing.

Personally, I would keep Son and Janssen for one more year and have the both of them backing up Kane, plus Son is an AM option (especially for games we switch to 4-2-3-1) although if the right player became available (Iheanacho for example) I would hope to see us snap them up. Lacazette is a pipe dream IMO.

I would also only like to see us bring in 1 AM (assuming Lamela stays) with Sisoko and GKN leaving and I would want tthe AM we bring in to be a quick dribbling, direct, creative player that can play through the middle or fly down the wing but I would settle for an AM that was creative, intelligent, was a decent dribbler and had good end product. Felipe Anderson is a player that comes to mind that fits the former description. In addition to the new AM, we would still have Eriksen, Alli, Lamela, Son & Edwards, which is more than enough for 2 positions in the 3-4-2-1 we are currently playing but still enough for 4-2-3-1, should we switch back.

In regards to CM, I wouldn't want us to bring anyone else in unless we got a ridiculous offer for Dembele and then I would want someone like Tielemans or Naby Keita. I would rather have Onomah as 5th option CM than Ronaldo Vieira. I know most fans don't rate Onomah, but he has never been given a game in his natural position (CM) where he out classed Winks week in week out for the U21s. AM exposes all of Onomah's weaknesses and doesn't play to any of his strengths.Also, Erisken has played CM twice in the 3-4-2-1 formation and he was excellent both times, so that is another option we have, especially with the number of AMs at our disposal.

You're right about Onomah, but it doesn't look like Pochettino knows what to do with him. There's been no indication that he is to play CM for us in future.

 

[Mr Pink]

We'll obviously sell who yields the best offers.

For me another CB, a more suited Lwb and another forward are the major areas to address.

Definitely think Son will improve further under Poch and I'd be disappointed If we let him go. He's extremely direct and pretty devastating on his day.

Yes his touch is often poor and he can frustrate with his lack of work ethic but these areas I expect him to improve on.

I hope Poch integrates Edwards with the first team squad next season. He could be our pacey wild card.

 

[beats1]

I completely agree with you on the CB and LWB situation, I would have Dier fighting Wanyama for CM whilst also being a 4th or 5th choice CB option. You are right, Davies doesn't suit us at all and, whilst I worry about Sessegnon's age and in experience, I think he will turn out to be a top player and think its worth a punt.

I also agree with you about Sissoko & GKN, but I think Lamela will stay. He still has 3 years left on his contract (we activated the extra 2 year option apparently), but if he did go, he would need replacing.

Personally, I would keep Son and Janssen for one more year and have the both of them backing up Kane, plus Son is an AM option (especially for games we switch to 4-2-3-1) although if the right player became available (Iheanacho for example) I would hope to see us snap them up. Lacazette is a pipe dream IMO.

I would also only like to see us bring in 1 AM (assuming Lamela stays) with Sisoko and GKN leaving and I would want tthe AM we bring in to be a quick dribbling, direct, creative player that can play through the middle or fly down the wing but I would settle for an AM that was creative, intelligent, was a decent dribbler and had good end product. Felipe Anderson is a player that comes to mind that fits the former description. In addition to the new AM, we would still have Eriksen, Alli, Lamela, Son & Edwards, which is more than enough for 2 positions in the 3-4-2-1 we are currently playing but still enough for 4-2-3-1, should we switch back.

In regards to CM, I wouldn't want us to bring anyone else in unless we got a ridiculous offer for Dembele and then I would want someone like Tielemans or Naby Keita. I would rather have Onomah as 5th option CM than Ronaldo Vieira. I know most fans don't rate Onomah, but he has never been given a game in his natural position (CM) where he out classed Winks week in week out for the U21s. AM exposes all of Onomah's weaknesses and doesn't play to any of his strengths.Also, Erisken has played CM twice in the 3-4-2-1 formation and he was excellent both times, so that is another option we have, especially with the number of AMs at our disposal.

CCV?

Personally I think, we just need a CB to replace Wimmer who has been scapegoated a bit imo

 

[shelfboy68]

Reportedly it's between us and atletico, depending on the player attitude towards game time and money, think we have a fairly strong chance. A lot of the larger clubs might be more reluctant with giving him a kid from the Belgian league the minutes he would like to progress. We've shown a lot of interest in tielemans and his whole situation reminds me of eriksen's at Ajaxs when we signed him. So it is very plausible.

I have not seen any reports linking him to us although not doubting your info but good as he maybe do we not need some experience in there rather than just young talent all the time.

 

[spurs9]

CCV?

Personally I think, we just need a CB to replace Wimmer who has been scapegoated a bit imo

If we continue 3 at the back, than CCV would be somewhere between 4th and 6th option. Basically our options would be Toby, Verts, New CB, Dier (who would also cover DM), Wimmer and CCV. That would give us 7 options for 4 poisitions (3 x CB & 1 x DM), which is enough IMO.

*when I say DM, I mean the more defensive of the 2 CM's.

 

[slartibartfast]

Striker and lb cover for me clive.
Winks is coming on.
I certainly wouldn't move Son on.
Need to keep our 1st 11 more than anything. Not sure who we could get to break into it tbf. Have to be some fkin player to dislodge Lloris Walker Toby Verts Rose Dembele Wanyama Erikson Alli or Kane. I'd def wanna keep Vorm Trippier Son Dier and Winks. Wimmer isn't too bad imo.
As for Lamela (finished) Sissoko and Janssen, get in the fkin truck.

Edit. Lmao knew the Lamela fan club would be all over that

 

[allpaths]

I have not seen any reports linking him to us although not doubting your info but good as he maybe do we not need some experience in there rather than just young talent all the time.

It was widely reported that we just recently scouted him during anderlecht's home match against zenit and we've been linked to him for a while now. I agree we need some experience, to help guide us through some trickier times, but I don't really think there's a good creative talent like that out there that is available to us. And if the itk is to believed levy wants to keep buying young while poch wants us to buy a higher level of player then youri is both.

 

[slartibartfast]

That Dorian Grey from Leicester is a good shout. Goes against our youth policy though as he's 106

 

[Giovanni]

A cb- really like the look of harry maguire from hull. Doesnt look anything special but hes big, strong and brings the ball forward very well with great passes. Very underrated.
Wide forward- gray from leicester.
Experieced forward/ younger forward- martial/long.

 

[lukespurs7]

I completely agree with you on the CB and LWB situation, I would have Dier fighting Wanyama for CM whilst also being a 4th or 5th choice CB option. You are right, Davies doesn't suit us at all and, whilst I worry about Sessegnon's age and in experience, I think he will turn out to be a top player and think its worth a punt.

I also agree with you about Sissoko & GKN, but I think Lamela will stay. He still has 3 years left on his contract (we activated the extra 2 year option apparently), but if he did go, he would need replacing.

Personally, I would keep Son and Janssen for one more year and have the both of them backing up Kane, plus Son is an AM option (especially for games we switch to 4-2-3-1) although if the right player became available (Iheanacho for example) I would hope to see us snap them up. Lacazette is a pipe dream IMO.

I would also only like to see us bring in 1 AM (assuming Lamela stays) with Sisoko and GKN leaving and I would want tthe AM we bring in to be a quick dribbling, direct, creative player that can play through the middle or fly down the wing but I would settle for an AM that was creative, intelligent, was a decent dribbler and had good end product. Felipe Anderson is a player that comes to mind that fits the former description. In addition to the new AM, we would still have Eriksen, Alli, Lamela, Son & Edwards, which is more than enough for 2 positions in the 3-4-2-1 we are currently playing but still enough for 4-2-3-1, should we switch back.

In regards to CM, I wouldn't want us to bring anyone else in unless we got a ridiculous offer for Dembele and then I would want someone like Tielemans or Naby Keita. I would rather have Onomah as 5th option CM than Ronaldo Vieira. I know most fans don't rate Onomah, but he has never been given a game in his natural position (CM) where he out classed Winks week in week out for the U21s. AM exposes all of Onomah's weaknesses and doesn't play to any of his strengths.Also, Erisken has played CM twice in the 3-4-2-1 formation and he was excellent both times, so that is another option we have, especially with the number of AMs at our disposal.

I don't think Dier has been good enough at CB but we won't get a better back/up to sit on the bench + he's an important character to give games to so if we're playing 3 at the back I'm compelely happy with him being the 3rd CB, he can cover Wanyama in CDM sure but he'll play as one of the 3 at the back firstly.

Putting this simply our priorities for next summer now are:
1. Back up striker (Janseen looks like he's on the way)
2. Attacking midfielder 1 for first team and one for back-up (Sell Sissoko, GKN and Onomah and promote Edwards)
3. LB back-up with pace to replace Davies
4. CB back-up (To replace Wimmer or CCV if Potch doesn't rate one of them)

That's it.

COYS.

 

[Sweech]

I'm surprised I haven't seen this name mentioned yet, but we should really be looking at Kieran Tierney to fill that LWB slot. If everyone's been watching Dembele at Celtic I don't know how they've missed this guy.

To me he brings a similar skillset to what Sessegnon would except he's more physically developed and ready to play now.

Overall I think LWB and creative AM should be our 1A/1B targets for the summer. For LWB I'd go for Sessegnon or Tierney as I just stated. For the AM slot I'd be targeting Mahrez or Tielemans who have already been mentioned several times.

I don't view Mahrez as a one-season wonder. Personally I think he has an almost identical skillset to Coutinho and that would be a strong addition to our squad. My only concern is how he has completely downed tools this season, which is why I believe his form and production have plummeted.

If Mahrez' mentality is deemed unfit then Tielemans would be my next choice. Totally different skillset from Mahrez but I believe Tielemans is our best option to fill the job Eriksen does playing as a number 10 and a number 8 for us. I don't think he's near as good as Eriksen is creatively yet, but he has the potential. Unlike Mahrez he's also been known to have a strong mentality and has worn the captain's armband while Anderlecht's regular captain has been out with an injury.

After that I'd bring in a new young backup CB to replace Wimmer, who I think will be off sadly. Can't really be too fussed over who it is though as I think we'll be looking at a relatively cheap unknown for it.

I know there's shouts for a striker as well but I'm personally not too fussed. Should Kane get injured I think we could cope just fine so long as we stick to the 3-4-3 system and use a front 3 of Alli-Eriksen-Son with Son or Alli playing as a false 9. That's why I think the LWB should be a much more prioritized target as it allows us to keep that formation running fluidly without having to chuck huge transfer fees and wages at strikers.

I also think the pacey wide forward is still an area of need, but I'd continue with the strategy we've been going with in taking a shot in the dark each year with N'jie/Nkoudou style signings. Proven pacey players who genuinely offer skills beyond that are incredibly expensive and hard to come by so I'd rather put those resources into more achievable targets like LWB and creative AM and relegate the pacey forward to the back burner and see if we can unearth a gem.

Should none of Tierney/Sessgnon/Mahrez/Tielemans come off I would then look at Luke Shaw for LWB and Ante Coric for AM

 

[Tyler24durden]

I'd love for to go for m'bappe and lazacette however it's unlikely we could compete with other clubs.

I'd like us to go for Dominic Solanke who's contract is running out and could play back up to Kane.

He's English, Chelsea's best youngster and wants to play, plus he's a fantastic young striker.

He's definitely gettable if we tap him up now, although Liverpool may have already done the deal.

Sessegnon for lb and Davies sold makes sense as Vertonghen can cover if need be.

I'd go big for Jonathan Tah and offer them Wimmer in the deal.

Back three of him, Toby and verts is top class and allows dier and ccv as understudies whilst dier is also back up to wanyama.

Then a creative midfielder / winger which is the hard one. Brandt is probably not realistic. Mahrez? Probably wouldn't want to pay £100k a week. Really don't rate Zaha.

For our 3 at the back system, Tielemans would probably fit really well with Alli and Eriksen.

Definitely need to add this kind of quality and they're achievable, although Tah would be big money, he is 20 so he will seem cheap in the future as he's good for the next 10 years.

 

[Bus-Conductor]

@WiganSpur and @spurs9

I really don't see us needing another CB. This is a bit like the striker scenario isn't it ? You both say we need some experienced quality instead of Wimmer, Dier and CCV but realistically what kind of CB could we sign who'll be better than those players who would come here and be back up - and then be better than them if played ad hoc ?

I think in Dier, Wimmer, CCV we have really good back up CB's, better back up options than most teams have and I'd rather we diverted funds to more pressing areas. If we sell Wimmer (and Davies) then fair enough, a LCB and Sessegnon would be required. If not, just Sessegnon would be fine with me.

@WiganSpur - I don't think Dier's had a string of bad games I think he's had the odd bad game, but mostly he's been playing fine and just making the odd mistake, but this will happen, he was the same last year but it's just not as fatal when you make mistakes as a CM. He needs to shape up, but I think/hope he is learning. (@spurs9 ) I still think Dier's future is as a CB not a CM, I wouldn't really want him ever playing there again, he has no real offensive qualities as a CM and Wanyama has shown us what a real DM should be, much busier and dynamic, so he would only ever be benchwarmer as a CM. Bringing another CB in would just stifle Dier's (and CCV's) development as a CB.

 

[Sweech]

@WiganSpur and @spurs9

I really don't see us needing another CB. This is a bit like the striker scenario isn't it ? You both say we need some experienced quality instead of Wimmer, Dier and CCV but realistically what kind of CB could we sign who'll be better than those players who would come here and be back up - and then be better than them if played ad hoc ?

I think in Dier, Wimmer, CCV we have really good back up CB's, better back up options than most teams have and I'd rather we diverted funds to more pressing areas. If we sell Wimmer (and Davies) then fair enough, a LCB and Sessegnon would be required. If not, just Sessegnon would be fine with me.

@WiganSpur - I don't think Dier's had a string of bad games I think he's had the odd bad game, but mostly he's been playing fine and just making the odd mistake, but this will happen, he was the same last year but it's just not as fatal when you make mistakes as a CM. He needs to shape up, but I think/hope he is learning. (@spurs9 ) I still think Dier's future is as a CB not a CM, I wouldn't really want him ever playing there again, he has no real offensive qualities as a CM and Wanyama has shown us what a real DM should be, much busier and dynamic, so he would only ever be benchwarmer as a CM. Bringing another CB in would just stifle Dier's (and CCV's) development as a CB.

I agree with you completely except I think Wimmer will be off in the summer.

Given his interviews he's clearly disappointed at his lack of game time and I think Poch has lost a little faith in him as we've seen him prefer Dier and Carter-Vickers as backup CB at different times this season.

I think we will likely be able to sell Wimmer at a solid profit to another PL team or back to Germany and then make another cheap CB signing to replace him.

That said if Poch is over needing a left-footer than I'd have no problem rolling with Vertonghen, Alderweireld, Dier, and Carter-Vickers (with Wanyama as an emergency backup should there be an injury crisis) next year.

 

[Bus-Conductor]

I'm surprised I haven't seen this name mentioned yet, but we should really be looking at Kieran Tierney to fill that LWB slot. If everyone's been watching Dembele at Celtic I don't know how they've missed this guy.

To me he brings a similar skillset to what Sessegnon would except he's more physically developed and ready to play now.

Overall I think LWB and creative AM should be our 1A/1B targets for the summer. For LWB I'd go for Sessegnon or Tierney as I just stated. For the AM slot I'd be targeting Mahrez or Tielemans who have already been mentioned several times.

I don't view Mahrez as a one-season wonder. Personally I think he has an almost identical skillset to Coutinho and that would be a strong addition to our squad. My only concern is how he has completely downed tools this season, which is why I believe his form and production have plummeted.

If Mahrez' mentality is deemed unfit then Tielemans would be my next choice. Totally different skillset from Mahrez but I believe Tielemans is our best option to fill the job Eriksen does playing as a number 10 and a number 8 for us. I don't think he's near as good as Eriksen is creatively yet, but he has the potential. Unlike Mahrez he's also been known to have a strong mentality and has worn the captain's armband while Anderlecht's regular captain has been out with an injury.

After that I'd bring in a new young backup CB to replace Wimmer, who I think will be off sadly. Can't really be too fussed over who it is though as I think we'll be looking at a relatively cheap unknown for it.

I know there's shouts for a striker as well but I'm personally not too fussed. Should Kane get injured I think we could cope just fine so long as we stick to the 3-4-3 system and use a front 3 of Alli-Eriksen-Son with Son or Alli playing as a false 9. That's why I think the LWB should be a much more prioritized target as it allows us to keep that formation running fluidly without having to chuck huge transfer fees and wages at strikers.

I also think the pacey wide forward is still an area of need, but I'd continue with the strategy we've been going with in taking a shot in the dark each year with N'jie/Nkoudou style signings. Proven pacey players who genuinely offer skills beyond that are incredibly expensive and hard to come by so I'd rather put those resources into more achievable targets like LWB and creative AM and relegate the pacey forward to the back burner and see if we can unearth a gem.

Forgive me, I watch very little Belgian football, but I have never seen Tielemans play or be spoken of as a "10", has he played as a "10" this year ? I have always thought of him (based on the limited stuff I've seen) much more as an "8".

Lets assume that Onomah doesn't exist for a minute (because as a CM, for Poch, he doesn't seem to) and that Poch decides a replacement for Dembele is needed (injury, age and someone more "progressive) then I'd much rather go for Tolisso. If we couldn't get Tolisso (which I would understand, I think someone said he might be off to Juve) for the 8, then maybe Tielemans ??

But I don't see him as a 10 (unless you tell me otherwise and he's proven to be great there) and would much rather someone like Fekir, who is very much that type of player, but is also robust and quite hard working, and can play as a striker/AM in other formats.

I can think of better 10/AM types, (like Gotze) who might be available but I think Fekir is actually very gettable and won't demand huge wages.

 

[Hercules]

I agree with you completely except I think Wimmer will be off in the summer.

Given his interviews he's clearly disappointed at his lack of game time and I think Poch has lost a little faith in him as we've seen him prefer Dier and Carter-Vickers as backup CB at different times this season.

I think we will likely be able to sell Wimmer at a solid profit to another PL team or back to Germany and then make another cheap CB signing to replace him.

That said if Poch is over needing a left-footer than I'd have no problem rolling with Vertonghen, Alderweireld, Dier, and Carter-Vickers (with Wanyama as an emergency backup should there be an injury crisis) next year.

CCV nowhere near ready imho.

 

[LexingtonSpurs]

I think the CB position depends primarily on how Poch wants to set up next season. Wimmer is not as bad as some make it seem, but he is also not that great as a backup to a LCB in a 3-back formation. Wimmer does not have enough mobility to cover that spot.

So, if we move towards that as a more permanent formation, then I think the recruiting staff can find a young CB who has the physical attributes to play that role.