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Lamelaaaaaa

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Lacazette is the name on everyone's wish list, but as much as i would love him to join us i really don't think it will happen, we will probably go back in for Zaha, and maybe even bid for Celtic's Dembele.

In my opinion, i would like us to sign, Ryan Sessegnon to replace Davies, Charles Aránguiz as our creative play maker, and
Vincent Aboubakar as a good back up striker to Kane.
 

Bus-Conductor

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I agree with you completely except I think Wimmer will be off in the summer.

Given his interviews he's clearly disappointed at his lack of game time and I think Poch has lost a little faith in him as we've seen him prefer Dier and Carter-Vickers as backup CB at different times this season.

I think we will likely be able to sell Wimmer at a solid profit to another PL team or back to Germany and then make another cheap CB signing to replace him.

That said if Poch is over needing a left-footer than I'd have no problem rolling with Vertonghen, Alderweireld, Dier, and Carter-Vickers (with Wanyama as an emergency backup should there be an injury crisis) next year.


I like having lefties, or very two footed righties, for the LCB. I think this is another case of Poch not managing his resources well TBH. I don't think Wimmer's anywhere near as good as Vertonghen, but was perfectly acceptable as his deputy (hard to find a better "back up" really). I don't know why Poch firstly ditched the 3cb system when Vertonghen was out and just brought Wimmer in, and having reverted to the 2cb system he should have just stuck Wimmer in with TA instead of trying to accommodate Dier.
 

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Forgive me, I watch very little Belgian football, but I have never seen Tielemans play or be spoken of as a "10", has he played as a "10" this year ? I have always thought of him (based on the limited stuff I've seen) much more as an "8".

Lets assume that Onomah doesn't exist for a minute (because as a CM, for Poch, he doesn't seem to) and that Poch decides a replacement for Dembele is needed (injury, age and someone more "progressive) then I'd much rather go for Tolisso. If we couldn't get Tolisso (which I would understand, I think someone said he might be off to Juve) for the 8, then maybe Tielemans ??

But I don't see him as a 10 (unless you tell me otherwise and he's proven to be great there) and would much rather someone like Fekir, who is very much that type of player, but is also robust and quite hard working, and can play as a striker/AM in other formats.

I can think of better 10/AM types, (like Gotze) who might be available but I think Fekir is actually very gettable and won't demand huge wages.
I think Aulas has said that Lacazette and Tolisso will have to be sold before June 30th because of FFP, doubt he'd sell Fekir as well.
 

Hercules

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It will be 6+ months before he has to play a meaningful match for us. I think he will continue to improve and be a strong back-up and Cup player next season.
I understand your point. Next 12 months will be vital for him. His mobility is a concern. I personally do not brlirve if we sell Wimmer we can go with the existing as the only ones, we still need to bring another one in, Like McGuire of Hull. Hope got his name right.
 

Sweech

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Forgive me, I watch very little Belgian football, but I have never seen Tielemans play or be spoken of as a "10", has he played as a "10" this year ? I have always thought of him (based on the limited stuff I've seen) much more as an "8".

Lets assume that Onomah doesn't exist for a minute (because as a CM, for Poch, he doesn't seem to) and that Poch decides a replacement for Dembele is needed (injury, age and someone more "progressive) then I'd much rather go for Tolisso. If we couldn't get Tolisso (which I would understand, I think someone said he might be off to Juve) for the 8, then maybe Tielemans ??

But I don't see him as a 10 (unless you tell me otherwise and he's proven to be great there) and would much rather someone like Fekir, who is very much that type of player, but is also robust and quite hard working, and can play as a striker/AM in other formats.

I can think of better 10/AM types, (like Gotze) who might be available but I think Fekir is actually very gettable and won't demand huge wages.
You and I both have a massive love for Tolisso so I'm in full agreeance there. I'd take him no matter what our needs are he's a brilliant modern footballer that could conceivably play anywhere on the pitch.

As for Tielemans as a 10 I'd agree that he doesn't necessarily start there but if you watch his play when Anderlecht are on the offense he often ends up directly in the pocket of space between the midfield and strikers. Hence he's a pseudo-#10 (at least in my opinion) with players like Dendoncker picking up the brunt of the defensive duties. That said I'd be lying if I said I watch a lot of Belgian football (I don't) so I rely mostly on highlights and European games so I could totally be wrong.

As for a Dembele replacement I think that should be Winks. Totally different players I know, but with different skill sets they perform nearly the exact same job. That being the connective tissue between defense and attack (along with Eriksen) and that of being a press breaker. Dembele does this through physical strength and exceptional ball control while Winks does it through agility, a calm head, feints, and a good passing range. The only thing Winks hasn't shown yet to match Dembele's role is the physicality over 90 minutes to make the turnovers through tackles that Dembele does. Winks has shown the desire but hasn't been properly given the opportunity with a lot of minutes in a big match to see if he can do it. I'm very optimistic that he can though.
 
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beats1

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I wouldn't mind going for Vietto

The perfect back up for kane if Lacazette is out of our reach
 

lukespurs7

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I agree with you completely except I think Wimmer will be off in the summer.

Given his interviews he's clearly disappointed at his lack of game time and I think Poch has lost a little faith in him as we've seen him prefer Dier and Carter-Vickers as backup CB at different times this season.

I think we will likely be able to sell Wimmer at a solid profit to another PL team or back to Germany and then make another cheap CB signing to replace him.

That said if Poch is over needing a left-footer than I'd have no problem rolling with Vertonghen, Alderweireld, Dier, and Carter-Vickers (with Wanyama as an emergency backup should there be an injury crisis) next year.
If we sell
Wimmmer and still Want to play 3-4-3 we'd have to replace him!
 

Sweech

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I like having lefties, or very two footed righties, for the LCB. I think this is another case of Poch not managing his resources well TBH. I don't think Wimmer's anywhere near as good as Vertonghen, but was perfectly acceptable as his deputy (hard to find a better "back up" really). I don't know why Poch firstly ditched the 3cb system when Vertonghen was out and just brought Wimmer in, and having reverted to the 2cb system he should have just stuck Wimmer in with TA instead of trying to accommodate Dier.
I think having a leftie or a two-footer is important as well as it would naturally help keep Rose in the game with how we like to move possession. As a heavily right-footed player would struggle to move the ball to him when put under pressure.

Wimmer is a strange case. I really like him but I believe there's something behind the scenes with him. Personally I think there's been a bit of a desire issue with him when he realized he'd struggle to get game time. He's historically been known to struggle with his fitness and diet habits and I wouldn't be surprised if those things slipped and Drew Poch's ire. It's purely conjecture from me though as I'm not ITK whatsoever, but I've got a very strong inkling he's off this summer.
 

Sweech

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I wouldn't mind going for Vietto

The perfect back up for kane if Lacazette is out of our reach
From what I've heard Vietto is frustratingly inconsistent though. Can perform magic but can also miss multiple open nets/one on ones. To me he sounds no better than Son, who I think is a fantastic squad player to have.
 

beats1

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From what I've heard Vietto is frustratingly inconsistent though. Can perform magic but can also miss multiple open nets/one on ones. To me he sounds no better than Son, who I think is a fantastic squad player to have.
It hasnt worked out at Seville but at villarreal was very good and Vietto at Atletico Madrid wasnt bad either.

He is more suited imo to the poch style than Son and better as a no.9 imo
 

Bus-Conductor

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I think Aulas has said that Lacazette and Tolisso will have to be sold before June 30th because of FFP, doubt he'd sell Fekir as well.

I'm not sure, Fekir's contract runs out 2020, meaning to achieve peak price, Fekir would need to be off'd next summer, with 3 left on his deal, no ? I guess if the do actually manage to sell both AL and CT by June 30, they may just offer Fekir a new improved contract to stay, but if he turns it down, could get interesting, and there have been odd games where their idiot manager hasn't actually started Fekir this season.

I'm just really struggling to think of another player who quite fits the (many) criteria of actually being viable who would also improve us. In footballing terms they have to be creative, incisive, more composed than the erratic other options we have, someone who can truly play as a 10, but is also versatile enough to play in other positions, with Eriksen, not just instead of. Fekir has even been used as a striker (and scored a hatrick if I remember correctly). He works pretty hard, has a good attitude. And in financial terms, he's still only 23, would happily come to us I think and not require he wages. Ticks just about all the boxes I can think of.
 

Blake Griffin

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Forgive me, I watch very little Belgian football, but I have never seen Tielemans play or be spoken of as a "10", has he played as a "10" this year ? I have always thought of him (based on the limited stuff I've seen) much more as an "8".

Lets assume that Onomah doesn't exist for a minute (because as a CM, for Poch, he doesn't seem to) and that Poch decides a replacement for Dembele is needed (injury, age and someone more "progressive) then I'd much rather go for Tolisso. If we couldn't get Tolisso (which I would understand, I think someone said he might be off to Juve) for the 8, then maybe Tielemans ??

have you seen naby keita, bus? i think he's a player you'd like, then again so will most of our rivals unfortunately.
 

Hercules

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Oh God someone mentioned Zaha few posts back.
I'll cry if we go for him I really will :cry:
Just like some would of done if Wanyama's name was mentioned as a possibility last season. We need to be realistic with our targets.
 
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allpaths

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You and I both have a massive love for Tolisso so I'm in full agreeance there. I'd take him no matter what our needs are he's a brilliant modern footballer that could conceivably play anywhere on the pitch.

As for Tielemans as a 10 I'd agree that he doesn't necessarily start there but if you watch his play when Anderlecht are on the offense he often ends up directly in the pocket of space between the midfield and strikers. Hence he's a pseudo-#10 (at least in my opinion) with players like Dendoncker picking up the brunt of the defensive duties. That said I'd be lying if I said I watch a lot of Belgian football (I don't) so I rely mostly on highlights and European games so I could totally be wrong.

As for a Dembele replacement I think that should be Winks. Totally different players I know, but with different skill sets they perform nearly he exact same job. That being the connective tissue between defense and attack (along with Eriksen) and that of being a press breaker. Dembele does this through physical strength and exceptional ball control while Winks does it through agility, a calm head, feints, and a good passing range. The only thing Winks hasn't shown yet to match Dembele's role is the physicality over 90 minutes to make the turnovers through tackles that Dembele does. Winks has shown the desire but hasn't been properly given the opportunity with a lot of minutes in a big match to see if he can do it. I'm very optimistic that he can though.
I try to watch as much anderlecht games as possible, and I totally agree tielemans is a hybrid mix between an 8 and a 10, perfect for the 4141. I wouldn't want him to be our 8, as I think winks is better in the deeper positions. If we needed to replace dembele I'd go for as others have mentioned the naby keita, whose basically kante with a passing range.
 

DIEHARD

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Just like dome would of done if Wanyama's name was mentioned as a possibility last season. We need to be realistic with our targets.

There is a balance between being realistic and targeting players who are good enough.

Joey Barton is realistic, doesn't mean we should go for him.

PS Zaha would definitely be an upgrade on Sissoko but fuck, even I'd be an upgrade.
 

Tucker

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Why are people mentioning Ihenacho? Why would City be willing to sell him, and why would they sell him to a rival?

A lot of HD players in this thread.

And we're sitting here scart cable in hand.

This.

I think a lot of people in this thread need to realise FIFA and FM aren't real life.
 

Bus-Conductor

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have you seen naby keita, bus? i think he's a player you'd like, then again so will most of our rivals unfortunately.

Only bits and bobs, must admit I'd forgotten about him, keep trying to watch more Leipzig games (I've watched a couple this year, keep recording others then not getting the time to sit down and watch them, so mostly all I have seen of him is highlights) but I like the bits I've seen, he's got a shitload going for him hasn't he, dynamic, good technique, can move with the ball, quite tenacious and hard working, would definitely fit the Poch ethos, which is very much in tune with Leipzig ethos. But I've not seen enough 90's of him really.
 

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Assuming we operate the 3421 more, we are probably overloaded in AM. Need for a creator (Eriksen) and a support forward (Alli). In Son, I feel we have the backup support forward, and if/when Lamela gets right, we have someone that can push Eriksen.

Where we are short is cover for Wanyama, this is where I'd push Dier back into midfield. I struggle justifying a cover player already being a starter elsewhere. That means if Wanyama is out, we have to make two changes, not just one. Dier into midfield, and a RCB also in, meaning both the midfield and defence units are changed. I'd look at a new starting RCB, allowing Dier to focus purely on DM. McGuire and Keane have been mentioned.
Previously I'd been worried about when Dembele is out, but Winks is really stepping up. If Dembele did get an offer from China, would we consider letting him go, I would, just based on his ongoing fitness issues, but would depend on the availability of a replacement. Is this where Tielemens could come into the equation?

LB is an issue when Rose is out. Davies is a solid LB in a back four, but isn't the same outlet as a LWB when we go to a back 3. This needs addressing, as Rose being out means we have to alter the whole setup. Sessegnon is getting a lot of love on here, but I worry it may be too soon for him. Kolasinac from Schalke on a free got some media attention last week, and quite frankly seems like a likely deal. Young still, but experienced, and versatile, LB, LCB, LWB & DM, and free (ish). Probably keep Davies as LCB understudy to Jan, if Wimmer is deemed not ideal. I'd contemplate going for Sessegnon also, but leave him at Fulham to develop for another year or so.

Finally CF, I still feel we need another CF option, however I'd be prepared to give Janssen more time too. Some games we play more of a 3412 when Alli plays higher up off Kane's shoulder, so room there to add another CF and give enough game time. If the club deem Janssen isn't going to cut it, then a top level CF to push Kane, plus also a younger option maybe who can play up top and wider, like Martial but perhaps less pricey obviously. I'd keep Janssen for one more year. Iheanacho is getting quite a few mentions on here, and I could see that working, pace and power on the ball, could play up top of off the shoulder, although not sure City will sell, especially to us.

Buy
Saed Kolasinac
Micheal Keane/Harry McGuire
Youri Tielmans
Kelechi Iheanacho

Sell
Sissoko
Bentaleb
Dembele?
Wimmer/Davies?
Njie
Nkoudou?
Trippier?
 
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