Super Pav

[Hoowl]

Happy for him to stay but we need someone better as a starter.

 

[EastLondonYid]

In this case a player like Defoe must go too. He's been completely useless the last 3 months

That is if you have the ability to look objective at the players in the squad. I suspect that you can't....

what a load of tosh!!!

defoe has done great for us, over many seasons!!! not 5 minutes!!!

pav has done it ,well nearly, for 5 or 6 games.

comparing pav with defoe proves you have little knowlegde of the wider picture at spurs.
EITHER that or your just trying to argue for the sake of arguing.

 

[lifeof...]

As I believe we need to sign a world class striker, to go a step further (challenge for prem) Then Someone has to be sold....Between Pav and Crouch, I prefer Crouch as the player to come of the bench. Pav doesn't like benches. Keane also doesn't like benches, so should also be sold. So we will have WCS, Defoe, Crouch, +1 Young potential / challenger to defoe / crouch

Well thats what i think

 

[Michey]

what a load of tosh!!!

defoe has done great for us, over many seasons!!! not 5 minutes!!!

pav has done it ,well nearly, for 5 or 6 games.

comparing pav with defoe proves you have little knowlegde of the wider picture at spurs.
EITHER that or your just trying to argue for the sake of arguing.

Btw...did you see the word "objective". I f don't understand what it means look it up. :wink:

 

[lifeof...]

. Pav will be quite happy as a bench player....

I think we should be careful that we do not disturb the balance of the team. Of course this does not happen just by selling Pav but I think It´s important to remind us all.
Sell Keane!

I think that's (bold nit) just not true, he has been quoted as saying the opposite himself.

Agree with the rest

 

[Has1978]

Grateful for his 4-5 games of fame - definitely played his part. But very inconsistent, never know which Pav is going to turn up.

If we get what we paid for him I'll be happy.

 

[ginol@14]

how some people forget
if it was not for pav we would be sitting in 6th place,his goals lifted our team out of a rut when crouch was playing week in week out and scoring no goals

pav is a natural finisher , he is always looking to get a shot in and score
i think he is a better all round player than defoe although defoe has scored more goals. we would be stupid to sell a player that has champions league experience just when we need it.
we all know we need a drogba type powerhouse centre forward ..... where we would find one is anoher thing , all i know id if a striker has to leave in the summer i can think of 3 that should go before pav

 

[Spurs_Bear]

how some people forget
if it was not for pav we would be sitting in 6th place,his goals lifted our team out of a rut when crouch was playing week in week out and scoring no goals

pav is a natural finisher , he is always looking to get a shot in and score
i think he is a better all round player than defoe although defoe has scored more goals. we would be stupid to sell a player that has champions league experience just when we need it.
we all know we need a drogba type powerhouse centre forward ..... where we would find one is anoher thing , all i know id if a striker has to leave in the summer i can think of 3 that should go before pav

That's the second time someone has written than, but it doesn't make it any more true. Can you explain in the style of Bus_Conductor, how this is actually the case?

As for the second bolded bit......that.....is......mental.

 

[lifeof...]

how some people forget
if it was not for pav we would be sitting in 6th place,his goals lifted our team out of a rut when crouch was playing week in week out and scoring no goals

pav is a natural finisher , he is always looking to get a shot in and score
i think he is a better all round player than defoe although defoe has scored more goals. we would be stupid to sell a player that has champions league experience just when we need it.
we all know we need a drogba type powerhouse centre forward ..... where we would find one is anoher thing , all i know id if a striker has to leave in the summer i can think of 3 that should go before pav

I think you need to take of those rose colour glass a little..

alot of his attempts on goal, have been so wayward, it is hardly concrete to call him a natural finisher.

His CL experience is hardly a major factor for us

As most of agree TO get in another "world class" striker, some one has to go. Whilst I think Crouch should stay, instead of Pav, I can see the argument for the other way round.....But all in all, Pav is not a bench player.....So If you are chooseing Defoe above Pav, then We will have to just agree to disagree on that

 

[ginol@14]

i was including keane - gudjohnsen and crouch as the 3 that should go before pav
keane is finished i fear at the club although i would give him one last chance
gudjohnsen and crouch will not score enough goals to take us to the next level
plus we play such 1 dimentional football when crouch is up front although i have to admit that against city the minute defoe got subbed crouch played quality.
as for wayward attempts at least he tries to have a shot , i wish crouch would have a few more ,he has the skill to do it but always seems to look for a pass. if only he was more ruthless

 

[lifeof...]

i was including keane - gudjohnsen and crouch as the 3 that should go before pav
keane is finished i fear at the club although i would give him one last chance
gudjohnsen and crouch will not score enough goals to take us to the next level
plus we play such 1 dimentional football when crouch is up front although i have to admit that against city the minute defoe got subbed crouch played quality.
as for wayward attempts at least he tries to have a shot , i wish crouch would have a few more ,he has the skill to do it but always seems to look for a pass. if only he was more ruthless

But, GUd is really 4th Choice, happy to be it, and offers a more link style play.

Keane, we agree, is gone (for whatever reason we feel)

So really the question is would Pav be happy been 3rd choice(because 1st choice striker purchase + defoe) ,,,and If so would we see the best of him?

I have to say I think No to both question..On the other hand, the same questions asked of crouch I would answer, 1. ok, 2. yes

Hence why I think Pav goes instead of crouch

 

[ginol@14]

But, GUd is really 4th Choice, happy to be it, and offers a more link style play.

Keane, we agree, is gone (for whatever reason we feel)

So really the question is would Pav be happy been 3rd choice(because 1st choice striker purchase + defoe) ,,,and If so would we see the best of him?

I have to say I think No to both question..On the other hand, the same questions asked of crouch I would answer, 1. ok, 2. yes

Hence why I think Pav goes instead of crouch

dont get me wrong , id be very happy if gud stayed , i think he is quality but he is more of a AM than a CF

We need an out and out goal scorer to start , crouch should stay but should be plan b , bring him on in the 70th min

i trust harry so whatever he decides to do im gonna back him 100%
he has srted out the weak links in the defense and midfied , its just up front that needs a little tweaking

 

[chadders]

Strikers that are not world class have goal droughts all the time, I was suprised Pav came in and did so well without many games before that. Guess a lot of it is down to instinct. He can score against poorer opposition but struggles against the better defences. I would keep him if he is happy to rotate and play his part. I just think we need a powerhouse.

 

[lifeof...]

dont get me wrong , id be very happy if gud stayed , i think he is quality but he is more of a AM than a CF

We need an out and out goal scorer to start , crouch should stay but should be plan b , bring him on in the 70th min

i trust harry so whatever he decides to do im gonna back him 100%
he has srted out the weak links in the defense and midfied , its just up front that needs a little tweaking

So are you now agreeing, that it is infact Pav that would go for the "top class" striker we all seem to agree we need to purchase?

Crouch stay, as plan b....agreed
Gud stay, other option ATM, 4th choice striker.
Defoe stays....buy Topclass striker...

I think you are you know

 

[Kendall]

Pav had a great spell which helped us get to where we are but to praise him for that and completely write off what Crouch has given us this season just smacks of ignorance and favouritsm.

 

[ginol@14]

So are you now agreeing, that it is infact Pav that would go for the "top class" striker we all seem to agree we need to purchase?

Crouch stay, as plan b....agreed
Gud stay, other option ATM, 4th choice striker.
Defoe stays....buy Topclass striker...

I think you are you know

i said gudjohnsen is more of a attacking midfielder (because he is ...and a very good one at that)
it is possible to keep all of them and buy another striker
although i personally would get rid of crouch and replace him with a proper finisher ,he just does not put in the work for me to play 90 mins week in week out

but as i said if harry wants him id be more than happy for him to stay , end of the day harry knows best regardless of what any of us think on here ..... we actually have a decent manager for once !
as i said id be happy with him on the bench but defoe/pav need better strike partners

 

[Hoowl]

I find this 'Pav is a natural finisher' rhetoric a bit hard to reconcile with what I've seen of him. Natural finisher implies, at least to me, that a players tends to hit the target more often than not and I can't say that of Pavlyuchenko. I'm not necessarily sure I can say that about any of our strikers. I'm not saying he's crap but I think he's overrated due to having a fancy name, a great song and being the underdog (everyone loves an underdog).

Pavlyuchenko and Defoe both seem to be confidence players who go through hot streaks. In terms of goals return, I can't ever see Pavlyuchenko getting more goals than Defoe. Also, whilst Pavlyuchenko has more to his game than Defoe, I wouldn't go as far as saying he's brilliant at the other aspects. That doesn't mean I want rid though, I'm happy to keep Pavlyuchenko. He offers more of a goal threat than Gudjohnsen or Crouch.

I still hope we get another striker (who is better than our bunch) in during the transfer window.

 

[Kendall]

i personally would get rid of crouch and replace him with a proper finisher ,he just does not put in the work for me to play 90 mins week in week out

Like Pav has since he's been here, yeah, real workhorse that Pav :lol:

For months the guy couldn't even be bothered to motivate himself in training.

 

[dontcallme]

Btw...did you see the word "objective". I f don't understand what it means look it up. :wink:

It didn't make sense in your sentence though. You needed the adverb "objectively." Feel free to look it up.

 

[ginol@14]

Like Pav has since he's been here, yeah, real workhorse that Pav :lol:

For months the guy couldn't even be bothered to motivate himself in training.

maybe so but he always looks interested on the pitch
and offers a better chance of scoring than crouch
after all aint strikers supposed to score goals ?

pav 43 games for spurs 24 goals

crouch 37 games 13 goals

which one would you say is the better strike option ?