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Takehiro Tomiyasu

freeeki

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The qualities this guy has (from the limited clips I’ve seen of him) look very much like the reasons we were all creaming ourselves at the idea of signing Atal two summers ago.

Rodon, Ryan, Regi, Tomi, Tanganga is quite an exciting position from which to start rebuilding our defence.
 

HenriKane

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Football scout for a couple of Brazilian clubs here. Just watched some matches featuring Tomiyasu (enjoying the weekend, clearly) and I'm bringing some of my views on him. Standing at 1,88m, his physicality will never be a problem - great biotype, with long legs and a strong upper body. He stands out as a ball carrier, having a great first touch/control for his size and a really impressive use of his weak foot to both dribble and pass. His passing is good (he's able to frequently break lines and find through balls aiming the final third), but his long balls are average at best - not the most polished technique either. As a full-back, he can provide overlaps oftenly, especially due to his size and stamina, but his crosses are average (great power, modest technique) and he's not one that will create his own cross with take-ons/feints. Characteristically, more of a Doherty than an Aurier - even though, at Bologna, he usually played at that Ben Davies role with Mourinho (full-back on a back four while defending, CB on a back three when attacking).

As a CB, though, he's different from anyone we have at the moment. He may not be as fast as Davinson, or as technical as Toby, or even as solid (?) in the air as Dier; nevertheless, he's pretty well-rounded. Could be quicker, but can control the depth with his fast first step and good speed resistance + a decent body orientation - what helps him intercept passes quite often. In 1v1 defending, Tomiyasu is ok, showing an outstanding bilaterality due to the use of his weak foot when tackling, although with a low lateral quickness, which can make him get easily beaten against fast dribblers. Defending the box, he can impose himself physically on both ground and aerial duels, using both feet for clearances and having a decent technique on aerial duels (his jumping could be better, but his timing is great, as is his use of the body);

Composed with or without the ball, Tomiyasu still has a lot to improve, but can be really useful for Tottenham. I feel like he'll stand out as a RCB/LCB on a back three, being allowed to play progressively with the ball. He seems well suited, at least characteristically, for either low or high blocks, so I don't expect Nuno's style (whichever it'll be) making a big difference in his impact.
 
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IamSpurtacus

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Football scout for a couple of Brazilian clubs here. Just watched some matches featuring Tomiyasu (enjoying the weekend, clearly) and I'm bringing some of my views on him. Standing at 1,88m, his physicality will never be a problem - great biotype, with long legs and a strong upper body. He stands out as a ball carrier, having a great first touch/control for his size and a really impressive use of his weak foot to both dribble and pass. His passing is good (he's able to frequently break lines and find through balls aiming the final third), but his long balls are average at best - not the most polished technique either. As a full-back, he can provide overlaps oftenly, especially due to his size and stamina, but his crosses are average (great power, modest technique) and he's not one that will create his own cross with take-ons/feints. Characteristically, more of a Doherty than an Aurier - even though, at Bologna, he usually played at that Ben Davies role with Mourinho (full-back on a back four while defending, CB on a back three when attacking).

As a CB, though, he's different from anyone we have at the moment. He may not be as fast as Davinson, or as technical as Toby, or even as solid (?) in the air as Dier; nevertheless, he's pretty well-rounded. Could be quicker, but can control the depth with his fast first step and good speed resistance + a decent body orientation - what helps him intercept passes quite often. In 1v1 defending, Tomiyasu is ok, showing an outstanding bilaterality due to the use of his weak foot when tackling, although with a low lateral quickness, which can make him get easily beaten against fast dribblers. Defending the box, he can impose himself physically on both ground and aerial duels, using both feet for clearances and having a decent technique on aerial duels (his jumping could be better, but his timing is great, as is his use of the body);

Composed with or without the ball, Tomiyasu still has a lot to improve, but can be really useful for Tottenham. I feel like he'll stand out as a RCB/LCB on a back three, being allowed to play progressively with the ball. He seems well suited, at least characteristically, for either low or high blocks, so I don't expect Nuno's style (whichever it'll be) making a big difference in his impact.

So great to get a scouts perspective! Love getting the insight to the player but also to what you look for as a scout

thanks for sharing!
 

fecka

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Football scout for a couple of Brazilian clubs here. Just watched some matches featuring Tomiyasu (enjoying the weekend, clearly) and I'm bringing some of my views on him. Standing at 1,88m, his physicality will never be a problem - great biotype, with long legs and a strong upper body. He stands out as a ball carrier, having a great first touch/control for his size and a really impressive use of his weak foot to both dribble and pass. His passing is good (he's able to frequently break lines and find through balls aiming the final third), but his long balls are average at best - not the most polished technique either. As a full-back, he can provide overlaps oftenly, especially due to his size and stamina, but his crosses are average (great power, modest technique) and he's not one that will create his own cross with take-ons/feints. Characteristically, more of a Doherty than an Aurier - even though, at Bologna, he usually played at that Ben Davies role with Mourinho (full-back on a back four while defending, CB on a back three when attacking).

As a CB, though, he's different from anyone we have at the moment. He may not be as fast as Davinson, or as technical as Toby, or even as solid (?) in the air as Dier; nevertheless, he's pretty well-rounded. Could be quicker, but can control the depth with his fast first step and good speed resistance + a decent body orientation - what helps him intercept passes quite often. In 1v1 defending, Tomiyasu is ok, showing an outstanding bilaterality due to the use of his weak foot when tackling, although with a low lateral quickness, which can make him get easily beaten against fast dribblers. Defending the box, he can impose himself physically on both ground and aerial duels, using both feet for clearances and having a decent technique on aerial duels (his jumping could be better, but his timing is great, as is his use of the body);

Composed with or without the ball, Tomiyasu still has a lot to improve, but can be really useful for Tottenham. I feel like he'll stand out as a RCB/LCB on a back three, being allowed to play progressively with the ball. He seems well suited, at least characteristically, for either low or high blocks, so I don't expect Nuno's style (whichever it'll be) making a big difference in his impact.

A fantastic comment and analysis. Thank you for sharing!
 

ComfortablyNumb

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Football scout for a couple of Brazilian clubs here. Just watched some matches featuring Tomiyasu (enjoying the weekend, clearly) and I'm bringing some of my views on him. Standing at 1,88m, his physicality will never be a problem - great biotype, with long legs and a strong upper body. He stands out as a ball carrier, having a great first touch/control for his size and a really impressive use of his weak foot to both dribble and pass. His passing is good (he's able to frequently break lines and find through balls aiming the final third), but his long balls are average at best - not the most polished technique either. As a full-back, he can provide overlaps oftenly, especially due to his size and stamina, but his crosses are average (great power, modest technique) and he's not one that will create his own cross with take-ons/feints. Characteristically, more of a Doherty than an Aurier - even though, at Bologna, he usually played at that Ben Davies role with Mourinho (full-back on a back four while defending, CB on a back three when attacking).

As a CB, though, he's different from anyone we have at the moment. He may not be as fast as Davinson, or as technical as Toby, or even as solid (?) in the air as Dier; nevertheless, he's pretty well-rounded. Could be quicker, but can control the depth with his fast first step and good speed resistance + a decent body orientation - what helps him intercept passes quite often. In 1v1 defending, Tomiyasu is ok, showing an outstanding bilaterality due to the use of his weak foot when tackling, although with a low lateral quickness, which can make him get easily beaten against fast dribblers. Defending the box, he can impose himself physically on both ground and aerial duels, using both feet for clearances and having a decent technique on aerial duels (his jumping could be better, but his timing is great, as is his use of the body);

Composed with or without the ball, Tomiyasu still has a lot to improve, but can be really useful for Tottenham. I feel like he'll stand out as a RCB/LCB on a back three, being allowed to play progressively with the ball. He seems well suited, at least characteristically, for either low or high blocks, so I don't expect Nuno's style (whichever it'll be) making a big difference in his impact.
This is the most interesting post I've seen here in weeks.

The weaknesses you allude to would be less damaging in a back three, either as a wide cb or a wing back. We don't necessarily need good crosses from both wings, and a wide player that is comfortable coming inside to play short passes on his left foot would be valuable for link up. I've already decided he's going to be a starter for us.
 

Legacy

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Football scout for a couple of Brazilian clubs here. Just watched some matches featuring Tomiyasu (enjoying the weekend, clearly) and I'm bringing some of my views on him. Standing at 1,88m, his physicality will never be a problem - great biotype, with long legs and a strong upper body. He stands out as a ball carrier, having a great first touch/control for his size and a really impressive use of his weak foot to both dribble and pass. His passing is good (he's able to frequently break lines and find through balls aiming the final third), but his long balls are average at best - not the most polished technique either. As a full-back, he can provide overlaps oftenly, especially due to his size and stamina, but his crosses are average (great power, modest technique) and he's not one that will create his own cross with take-ons/feints. Characteristically, more of a Doherty than an Aurier - even though, at Bologna, he usually played at that Ben Davies role with Mourinho (full-back on a back four while defending, CB on a back three when attacking).

As a CB, though, he's different from anyone we have at the moment. He may not be as fast as Davinson, or as technical as Toby, or even as solid (?) in the air as Dier; nevertheless, he's pretty well-rounded. Could be quicker, but can control the depth with his fast first step and good speed resistance + a decent body orientation - what helps him intercept passes quite often. In 1v1 defending, Tomiyasu is ok, showing an outstanding bilaterality due to the use of his weak foot when tackling, although with a low lateral quickness, which can make him get easily beaten against fast dribblers. Defending the box, he can impose himself physically on both ground and aerial duels, using both feet for clearances and having a decent technique on aerial duels (his jumping could be better, but his timing is great, as is his use of the body);

Composed with or without the ball, Tomiyasu still has a lot to improve, but can be really useful for Tottenham. I feel like he'll stand out as a RCB/LCB on a back three, being allowed to play progressively with the ball. He seems well suited, at least characteristically, for either low or high blocks, so I don't expect Nuno's style (whichever it'll be) making a big difference in his impact.
Please contribute more often.
 

Matthew

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To back up new ITK, also been told this is basically done now.

Good first addition.

cue spurs waiting until 1st august to unveil him as our first signing :LOL:.... tongue in cheek before people lose their shit!
 

stov

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This may seem a bit out there but how about having fullbacks either side who are good both going forward and defensively so you can attack and defend well down both sides instead of one
do they exist?
 

Hoddle&Waddle

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I wouldn't be against the idea but I feel like he'd need legs around him. Not sure how mobile Pjanic is but I don't recall him being very athletic. Wolves fans have been struggling with Moutinho now as he's become less and less mobile.

It feels like Kessie might be a smarter move. We need to deploy PEH like Denmark have. He's a far more progressive passer than he was allowed to be last season. He showed flashes off it and at Euros he's been one of, if not the, most creative player in the tournament. Joint top on assists too.
Have we got 50m for Kessie though?
 

CoopsieDeadpool

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I wouldn't be against the idea but I feel like he'd need legs around him. Not sure how mobile Pjanic is but I don't recall him being very athletic. Wolves fans have been struggling with Moutinho now as he's become less and less mobile.

It feels like Kessie might be a smarter move. We need to deploy PEH like Denmark have. He's a far more progressive passer than he was allowed to be last season. He showed flashes off it and at Euros he's been one of, if not the, most creative player in the tournament. Joint top on assists too.


Simple answer for your whole post.

Oliver Skipp.

Has the legs to help Pjanic, has the defensive awareness/ability to allow Hojbjerg to do similar to what he's been doing for the national team.

My bias for the lad is probably shining within all of my posts about him. However, he is bloody good & I'm in no doubt whatsoever that he's going to prove to be a very important player for us.
 

Pebble Dash

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OK. I admit to knowing very little outside of THFC. But isn't Umtiti rather good, as is Pjanic?

We need a left footed/sided CB, we're not stacked with transfer funds.

Umtitis Wikipedia states...

Umtiti is a powerful and rangy left-footed central defender, who is predominantly known for his physical strength, anticipation, pace, ability in the air, and tackling, as well as his distribution, technique, and ability on the ball, which enables him to carry the ball out from the defence, or start attacking plays.


Is this not exactly what we require?

Umtiti is finished at the top level… he makes Kieron Dyer look fit and healthy.
 

Flobadob

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Looks a good signing! Might not be the most earth shattering signing but I love when we sign versatile players.

I really think our squad could benefit from 3 or 5 atb formation to help our defense. Instantly it looks like we have options across the back line when you start looking at the squad that way.

LWB - Regulion, Sess, Davies
LCB - Tomiyasu, Davies
CB - Toby, Sanchez
RCB - Rodon, Dier, Tanganga
RWB - Doherty, Tanganga, Tomiyasu

Obviously need to clear out a few CBs and if one other is brought in, I think we can shore it up for the season hopefully ?
That’s not a bad set of players, but those RB/RWB options make me wince. We really need to bring in a proper dedicated RB in my opinion, as I have no faith in Doherty whatsoever
 

sparx100

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That’s not a bad set of players, but those RB/RWB options make me wince. We really need to bring in a proper dedicated RB in my opinion, as I have no faith in Doherty whatsoever
It will be interesting to see how he goes as a wing back. Granted he has not excelled what effectively was a back 4 at Spurs but his record for Wolves was good where his role was more focused on contributing further forward.
 
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