Team v Chelsea

[Kendall]

We finally have a good right back and people want to put Kaboul back there. I still have nightmares thinking about the last time he played there.

We beat Wolves away comfortably, thrashed Liverpool, beat Arsenal, beat Wigan away and drew with an in-form Newcastle without Lennon before.

We'll be fine. Lets not start shifting around the whole team. Walker is a right back, not a winger.

 

[Mr Pink]

if bale cant play and the more i think about it, i would play gallas or kaboul right back and push walker up to right midfield. i think there is great strength , pace and drive there with enough defensive awareness to nulify chelsea and wud be better option than say a pienaar or krannjcar who wud bring certain qualities to role but i worry when we dont have the ball in these positions.... lets get one thing clear this nonsense of 4231 has nver happened... it was vdv on right of a 4 man midfield - we got away with it against arsenal very much playing vdv there...harry wont make same mistake agaianst a more powerful team like chelsea

u cud try play vdv on right with 2 central players in sandro and parker covering but when u have runners and elusive players like mata and running power of ramires and runs from cole then there is a danger of central players been dragged all over place to cover right hand side space..vdv is not disciplined enough and does not have legs to get up and down right hand side thats why i say play walker on right midfield with kaboul behind playing a very strict disciplined defensive role behind. its not ideal but its strong and has plenty of legs there to put in a shift.

I agree that VDV doesn't have the discipline to play on the right side against the better sides, its fine against sides down the League a little but we saw how Arsenal's goal developed.

However Walker is much better at full back running from deep with that great engine, he isn't cultured enough to be a winger like Bale, he doesn't have that clever footwork etc....and Kaboul ain't a RB, yes he had that game at City but he just isn't a RB whatsoever. That really would be asking for trouble selecting that right hand side.

 

[Mr Pink]

If we are playing a flat four across the middle and Modric is to play centrally what would be wrong with the same midfield line up against the Dippers...

Kranjcar, Parker, Modric, Bale....

VDV

Ade

Then VDV dropping deeper to make it a 3 matching Chelsea up.

I would be happy with that selection.

 

[kdspur]

We finally have a good right back and people want to put Kaboul back there. I still have nightmares thinking about the last time he played there.

We beat Wolves away comfortably, thrashed Liverpool, beat Arsenal, beat Wigan away and drew with an in-form Newcastle without Lennon before.

We'll be fine. Lets not start shifting around the whole team. Walker is a right back, not a winger.

just one incident but kaboul crossed ball for crouch to score one of most important goals in spurs recent history few years back.. its a role he obviously not played alot in but i dont think he is 2 bad there in all honesty. he has pace power great in air and tahts needed against chelsea. walker maybe better right back cos he runs from deep and can see everything in front of him but we are talking 90 minutes to do one for the team not a career as as winger. phil jones is a center half but he played midfield for united on sunday and was fucking immense and cud have had a hat trick.. walker can play an extra ten wenty yards up pitch no bother and still offer his team the assurance of pace legs and security on right hand side of pitch and keep cole occupied

 

[Kendall]

And Crouch scored the goal. Probably shouldn't have sold him eh?

He is shite at right back. Terrible. Clueless.

Kaboul exposed to Mata and Cole would be awful. The last thing we need is crosses into our box with Drogba around.

 

[Mr Pink]

Tell you what though Drogba looked knackered in the Wigan game...or maybe he couldn't give feck, either way he was very inactive.

 

[kdspur]

I agree that VDV doesn't have the discipline to play on the right side against the better sides, its fine against sides down the League a little but we saw how Arsenal's goal developed.

However Walker is much better at full back running from deep with that great engine, he isn't cultured enough to be a winger like Bale, he doesn't have that clever footwork etc....and Kaboul ain't a RB, yes he had that game at City but he just isn't a RB whatsoever. That really would be asking for trouble selecting that right hand side.

our options for righ hand side

walker and pienaar is gamble

walker and kranjcar is gamble

walker and bale is fine

kaboul and wlker is fine for me 2

remember a win for us wud be sensational result but lets not go mad here. chelsea need to win and longer it goes more frustrated they can and will get . we need cool heads and strong stand up to them players. i dont feel a pienaar or kranjcar are fir enough yet and besides that i dont think their work rate or pace or athlecism will troubl and put cole on the back foot at all.. hope im bloody wrong on everything but the bottom line for me is and especially if bale is out as well but i worry about spurs on right hand side when they dont have ball. walker is good defender but still learning and his pace is a wonderful tool to get him out of shit but when u have top players coming from all angles we will get caught eventually.. keep it real keep it tight and secure and let modric and vdv work their magic.

 

[kdspur]

And Crouch scored the goal. Probably shouldn't have sold him eh?

He is shite at right back. Terrible. Clueless.

Kaboul exposed to Mata and Cole would be awful. The last thing we need is crosses into our box with Drogba around.

well if we dont have midfielder on right hand side the crosses will still come in from deep either way. we need someone to stop the flow of traffic down that side. i dont think we have personnel to stop that other than walker and kaboul to play that role or even a gallas who has played for ages in a full back role remember

 

[Kendall]

I just can't get my head around trialing Walker in a position he's never played in and Kaboul in a position he's never looked convincing in, against Chelsea, in a massive 6 pointer.

I hope Harry agrees.

 

[Mr Pink]

our options for righ hand side

walker and pienaar is gamble

walker and kranjcar is gamble

walker and bale is fine

kaboul and wlker is fine for me 2

remember a win for us wud be sensational result but lets not go mad here. chelsea need to win and longer it goes more frustrated they can and will get . we need cool heads and strong stand up to them players. i dont feel a pienaar or kranjcar are fir enough yet and besides that i dont think their work rate or pace or athlecism will troubl and put cole on the back foot at all.. hope im bloody wrong on everything but the bottom line for me is and especially if bale is out as well but i worry about spurs on right hand side when they dont have ball. walker is good defender but still learning and his pace is a wonderful tool to get him out of shit but when u have top players coming from all angles we will get caught eventually.. keep it real keep it tight and secure and let modric and vdv work their magic.

Playing Pienaar on the right would be a safe move, and Kranjcar a relatively safe move but more ambitious...he played there against Liverpool and Wolves to great effect. The only risk would be regarding their match fitness.

 

[beats1]

Harry does like to surprise us occasionally, so I wouldn't be surprised by Townsend and Bale on the wings

 

[theShiznit]

I couldn't see Townsend getting anything out of Ivanovic or even Bosingwa. Not strong enough, and when engaged with a defender his pace is non existant.

I would go with Bale on the right 1st choice or Pienaar 2nd. With Sandro/Parker just beasting the 3 from Lampard/Miereles/Romeau/RayMeers.

 

[Kingellesar]

I really don't think we should put Bale on the right. Wigan got a fair bit of joy over on the right flank against them and I think Bales crossing is just too good not to use. Maybe second half switch him over to the right for 20 minutes to keep them guessing but we must use him on the left and pump crosses in. Ivanovic is in terrible form and looks very suspect at CB. Plus Cech might fumble the crosses, you know how much power and pace Bale can stick on the ball.

 

[Kingellesar]

Tell you what though Drogba looked knackered in the Wigan game...or maybe he couldn't give feck, either way he was very inactive.

I can't believe I sat through that game, both teams were poor. As soon as Chelsea got one, I don't think they ventured forward again did they? I would LOVE them to turn up with a midfield 3 of Lampard, Meireles and Romeu.

 

[minimike]

Townsend is the answer. aka pace

 

[Pedro]

-----------Friedel--------------
Walker Kaboul King Assou-Ekotto
--------Sandro--Parker---------
Modric---------------------Bale
-------------VDV--------------
----------Adebayor------------

Can't decide which wing modders and Bale should play, but to keep width I would go with the above. Walker can overlap and modders can drift. VDV has to play off Ade, I don't want to see Rafa stuck on the wing. Yes we probably wont get the absolute best out of modric here, but everyone else will be in their favoured position. I would hope Modric, VDV and Bale will play fairly fluid anyway and switch positions during the game. I don't even want to think of a team without both Lennon and Bale.

 

[Pedro]

BTW, I think our style of play has developed to the extent that we rely on our width. These injuries really highlight our need for a backup winger in Jan hopefully. Would be good to have the option on the bench also.

 

[Audere]

If no lennon then a midfield of bale, modric, Parker, sandro will suffice.

Chav scum.

 

[stevenqoz]

Been giving some thought to the Chelsea game and a question needs to be answered before we decide on a line-up. Are we out to win the game or avoid losing it? I know these two things are not necessarily mutually exclusive but the answer could impact on the approach we take.
Playing just Sandro with Parker centrally in my mind would be solid but restrictive to our chances of winning the game. The first half Saturday demonstrated that the balance wasn't right....our central midfield game changer Modric was played away from the central area and this really seemed to slow down our play through the middle. If both Bale and Lennon are absent I can't see how we will be able to turn the Chelsea defence both Terry and Ivanicovic are stronger with it all in front of them.To win this game Harry will need to get radical....ie play 3 5 2 which will allow Walker Bale/BAE to bomb on.
My feeling is that he will play not to lose in this match...a point v Chelsea will maintain our position regarding them. I've changed my mind on the line-up from earlier on in the week and guess he will go this way now
..........Friedel
Walker Kaboul King/Gallas BAE
............Sandro
VDV Parker Modric Bale
..............Ade

 

[Kendall]

Why would playing Parker and Sandro restrict our chance of winning the game? The more possession we have, the more chances we will create.