Team v Chelski

[Bulletspur]

In my opinion we lost to Burnley because of Poch's questionable team selection and game Management. Hope that whoever is selected to play Chelsea will be more on point. He should pick the best team for this game, which as I pointed out before is not necessarily our best players, but players who will gel in a certain way to exploit Chelsea's weaknesses tactically.

 

[ralvy]

Lloris
KWP Toby Sanchez Vertonghen
Dier Winks
Lamela Eriksen Son
Kane

Gazzaniga, Trippier, Rose, Wanyama, Sissoko, Lucas, Llorente

That's a very nice line up, but I would chose Aurier over KWP instead. He's been playing quite well imo.

 

[thebenjamin]

In my opinion we lost to Burnley because of Poch's questionable team selection and game Management. Hope that whoever is selected to play Chelsea will be more on point. He should pick the best team for this game, which as I pointed out before is not necessarily our best players, but players who will gel in a certain way to exploit Chelsea's weaknesses tactically.

We lost to Burnley because the players didn't execute. The team that was selected was good enough to beat Burnley.

 

[Johnny J]

Whatever team it is I hope we don't go with a back 3.

I also hope the players show a metric fuckton more desire and energy to win than against Burnley. It's all well pinging the ball about and having 70%+ possession, but we badly need more movement and more urgency in attack.

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

No Dier means another reassessment:

Lloris
Aurier Sanchez Vertonghen Rose
Wanyama
Sissoko Eriksen
Lamela
Kane Son

Gazzaniga Alderweireld Davies Winks Skipp Lucas Llorente​

You have to switch Aurier & Trippier if you're selecting Sissoko.

Sissoko seems to know exactly what his job is when Trippier plays. However, when Aurier plays, we see the Sissoko from the Burnley game, and the whole of his time at THFC before being reborn this season.

He literally seems lost when Trippier isn't playing

 

[ajspurs]

We lost to Burnley because the players didn't execute. The team that was selected was good enough to beat Burnley.

I think the way we set ourselves out contributed largely myself, despite who we had out on the pitch. The team that was selected against Newcastle for instance, was good enough to do more than scrape past them due to a keeper error, when you look at the personal that is.

The football is patchy with three at the back IMO, can have good spells with it but can have a lot of disjointed spells too but overall there is not much fluidity or creativity with it. I'll go as far to say that even at home to Dortmund in winning 3-0, without Vertonghen excelling on the left I'm not sure how good it would have looked.

Our most comprehensive results and best football-playing performances this season have come with a a standard 4 at the back. I think we run the risk of seeing poor or maybe just slow and passive football being played every time we go with 3 at the back myself.

 

[Paolo10]

Have seen nothing whatsoever to think Aurier deserves the shirt for the 3rd game in a row tbh.

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

Have seen nothing whatsoever to think Aurier deserves the shirt for the 3rd game in a row tbh.

Well Comic Relief is coming up.

 

[Paolo10]

Well Comic Relief is coming up.

Would probably rather have Lenny Henry back there than Serge.

 

[TEESSIDE1]

I think the way we set ourselves out contributed largely myself, despite who we had out on the pitch. The team that was selected against Newcastle for instance, was good enough to do more than scrape past them due to a keeper error, when you look at the personal that is.

The football is patchy with three at the back IMO, can have good spells with it but can have a lot of disjointed spells too but overall there is not much fluidity or creativity with it. I'll go as far to say that even at home to Dortmund in winning 3-0, without Vertonghen excelling on the left I'm not sure how good it would have looked.

Our most comprehensive results and best football-playing performances this season have come with a a standard 4 at the back. I think we run the risk of seeing poor or maybe just slow and passive football being played every time we go with 3 at the back myself.

Wingbacks can be hugely influential unfortunately none of our combinations have the required quality and consistency to be of substantial use.

KWP - great going forward but very naive in defence
Trippier - great crosser but keeps doing a Walker and laying the ball off. He’s also very dense and can’t defend for shit
Aurier - full blown Kamikaze type player... either decent or suicidal
Rose (post injury) - still a competent defender but pretty atrocious going forward
Davies - a decent defender, also a decent cross on him but he’s slow as shit = getting caught out of position and unable to run passed the opposition full back

Vertonghen is by far our best left back and has played there many times for Belgium, likewise Alderweireld used to play right back for them also. Verts however is currently 1 of our 2 best centre backs so unless Sanchez shows the consistency he did last season then we can’t afford to play him as a left back/wingback.

 

[ralvy]

Have seen nothing whatsoever to think Aurier deserves the shirt for the 3rd game in a row tbh.

Either him or Trippier would be fine by me... both are way better than KWP.

 

[ajspurs]

Wingbacks can be hugely influential unfortunately none of our combinations have the required quality and consistency to be of substantial use.

KWP - great going forward but very naive in defence
Trippier - great crosser but keeps doing a Walker and laying the ball. He’s also very dense and can’t defend for shit
Aurier - full blown Kamikaze type player... either decent or suicidal
Rose (post injury) - still a competent defender but pretty atrocious going forward
Davies - a decent defender, also a decent cross on him but he’s slow as shit = getting caught out of position and unable to run passed the opposition full back

Vertonghen is by far our best left back and has played there many times for Belgium, likewise Alderweireld used to play right back for time also. Verts however is currently 1 of our 2 best centre backs so unless Sanchez shows the consistency he did last season then we can’t afford to play him as a left back/wingback.

Yeah I fully agree. I was saying after the Burnley game that we don't have the wide defenders to effectively sacrifice another system for one with wingbacks. Like someone else said it's not exactly just the system itself but when you don't have the right players, that's what it comes down to. If we had better players to play at fullback and maybe more of a forward thinking, creative and get on the ball type central midfielder in the middle then we'd see better from it.

There was a time against Burnley when Kane received the ball really deep and sprayed the ball to the other side to open up the play and to be honest more passes like that was one of the things we missed IMO. When it's just short, slow and safe passes it's so much easier to defend against. The tempo has to be much better in that system.

 

[BringBack_leGin]

You have to switch Aurier & Trippier if you're selecting Sissoko.

Sissoko seems to know exactly what his job is when Trippier plays. However, when Aurier plays, we see the Sissoko from the Burnley game, and the whole of his time at THFC before being reborn this season.

He literally seems lost when Trippier isn't playing

Literally?

LITERALLY???

 

[Bulletspur]

We lost to Burnley because the players didn't execute. The team that was selected was good enough to beat Burnley.

Very strange statement. Any combination of the players we have are good enough to beat Burnley but didnt. Tinkering with and changing a winning team unnecessarily was why we lost in my opinion

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

Literally?

LITERALLY???

Calm down dear, I was merely expressing my point & love you lots really