The All New Spurs U21, U18 & Other Youth News Thread

[spurs9]

15 tackles in this match! http://www.whoscored.com/Matches/830114/Live

Next highest for either team was 4! That is mental.

 

[beats1]

Next highest for either team was 4! That is mental.

28 tackles in 3 games WTF, maybe he has a recall clause and has been using the naughton voodoo doll.

 

[spurs9]

28 tackles in 3 games WTF, maybe he has a recall clause and has been using the naughton voodoo doll.

We can only hope. Even though it's only a small sample (3 games) he has a 9.3 tackles per game ave. The next highest in that league is 4.6!

 

[beats1]

We can only hope. Even though it's only a small sample (3 games) he has a 9.3 tackles per game ave. The next highest in that league is 4.6!

If he keeps this up he will be a PL player. If you look at the players that have gone through the academy since the changes in 2005, we have done well.

Interestingly that Yuri Berchiche is on the fringes of the Real Sociedad squad

 

[spurs9]

If he keeps this up he will be a PL player. If you look at the players that have gone through the academy since the changes in 2005, we have done well.

Interestingly that Yuri Berchiche is on the fringes of the Real Sociedad squad

Very well and it is going to get even better IMO.

 

[mancman]

Looking for information. Does anyone know what has happened to ALFIE WHITEMAN - GK our England U16 & U17 player. This in the wake of Brandon Austin being on the subs bench for our U18 game against Aston Villa.

 

[jondesouza]

Looking for information. Does anyone know what has happened to ALFIE WHITEMAN - GK our England U16 & U17 player. This in the wake of Brandon Austin being on the subs bench for our U18 game against Aston Villa.

I think he may still be an U16 player.

 

[Spursidol]

Looking for information. Does anyone know what has happened to ALFIE WHITEMAN - GK our England U16 & U17 player. This in the wake of Brandon Austin being on the subs bench for our U18 game against Aston Villa.

Austin is a Spurs u15 or u16 player. I would guess that either Whiteman was injured or we wished to give Austin more experience

 

[eddiebailey]

If he keeps this up he will be a PL player. If you look at the players that have gone through the academy since the changes in 2005, we have done well.

Harry deserves some credit for having sufficient faith to give Fredericks, Kane and Carroll an early blooding in the Europa. I know he wanted to rest first teamers, but I don't believe he would have selected them if he did not think they were up to it (I recall him putting Kane and Fredericks on the bench when they were still in the Academy, in preference to some of the more senior reserves). Likewise he consciously took opportunities to give game time to the likes of Livermore, Caulker, Townsend and Luongo.

 

[JUSTINSIGNAL]

Harry deserves some credit for having sufficient faith to give Fredericks, Kane and Carroll an early blooding in the Europa. I know he wanted to rest first teamers, but I don't believe he would have selected them if he did not think they were up to it (I recall him putting Kane and Fredericks on the bench when they were still in the Academy, in preference to some of the more senior reserves). Likewise he consciously took opportunities to give game time to the likes of Livermore, Caulker, Townsend and Luongo.

Hmmm..personally I don't think he so much had 'faith' in them. More he didn't give a fuck about the Europa league so played fringe players and youth prospects.

 

[Spursidol]

Hmmm..personally I don't think he so much had 'faith' in them. More he didn't give a fuck about the Europa league so played fringe players and youth prospects.

He certainly didn't care much for EL, but on the other hand he would have been castigated if we had been losing the matches 5-0.

He was probably very grateful to find that the youth was good enough to get some very respectable results which ususually took us through to the group stages - our worst results wre often when he introduced more first team players who were not motivated by Harry's views.

 

[newbie]

Rednap must have know about the youth because For Jamie rednap to know so much about mason, Harry must have mentioned him. Also for JR to say some good things about mason he must be pretty dam
Amazing. Also I think under rednap out loans seemed to be very good I think his old boy network was very well suited to a knowing the right club and b if Harry rednap says this kid is good you have to take notice.

 

[JUSTINSIGNAL]

Rednap must have know about the youth because For Jamie rednap to know so much about mason, Harry must have mentioned him. Also for JR to say some good things about mason he must be pretty dam
Amazing. Also I think under rednap out loans seemed to be very good I think his old boy network was very well suited to a knowing the right club and b if Harry rednap says this kid is good you have to take notice.

Jamie Redknapp is a good mate and business partner of Timothy Sherwood.

 

[newbie]

Jamie Redknapp is a good mate and business partner of Timothy Sherwood.

Yes but thinking Harry did not know about our young players esp mason is silly esp as he played a lot of them in the Europa then didn't he loan them out to Yoevil ? Where Townsend, mason and caulker all had a good loan spell. We seemed to have a periode of really rubbish loans last couple of years. I just think Harry, joe Jordan and bond new people and seemed to get loans that suited the players and they got played. I could be wrong though, but our loans last couple of season Swindon a side some have been terrible.

It was almost like Rednapp started off building for the future and I know when he came in though a player he trained them ( the first team) hard. But it was like his mind was elsewhere in his latter tenure, I have a friend who had meetings cancelled off with Rednapp numours times in his last season as he was never at the training ground.

I do believe Rednapp new a hell of a lot about our young players, and had a plan to inter grate them hence the loans and scrapping the reserve. He played caulker in the cup he played rose against arsenal. At the same time he didn't seem to like playing players without exp, however was that when the pressure was mounting as we got better ?

Also mate of mine bumps in to brad friedal a lot and brad has started to open up to him (we are taking 3-4 yrs) Brad think MoPo is the best thing to happen to spurs and the board would be mad not to back him, the teams the fittest it's ever been and he honestly believes we have to keep for the next 20 yrs ( he did say if we keep him long term he believes we will win the league but I think great belief and I hope all at spurs do belief that but I don't know how realistic it is.

 

[DaSpurs]

I know it shouldn't bother me but the kid is a massive Scum fan and some of his tweets during the NLD had me wincing a bit.

It should bother you and I agree with some of the posts above suggesting the coaching team having a word with him (if they haven't already since), but we have to remember the kid's only 16. Kids at that age do, and say, all kinds of stupid shit to "stand out." I'm certainly not justifying it, but there's a reason only four nations on the surface of this earth allow 16 year olds to vote (and in one of them their vote doesn't even matter: Cuba).

 

[Spursidol]

http://www.thefa.com/news/england/d...uad-as-england-u17s-begin-euro-defence-081014

Marcus Edwards in the E u17 squad to defend the European Championship they won last year - one of 3 players promoted who was not in last year's squad

 

[newbie]

http://www.thefa.com/news/england/d...uad-as-england-u17s-begin-euro-defence-081014

Marcus Edwards in the E u17 squad to defend the European Championship they won last year - one of 3 players promoted who was not in last year's squad

Spurs Idol do you think the FA has missed a trick by not having CCV and Maghoma in the squad I know CCV has signed up for USA but its a bold move playing for another country when your English so you have to wonder if tis more do with ineptitude from the FA, or he just fancies furthing his education and life exp?

Although there is 12 different clubs represent in that squad but if CCV is good enough to play for USA under 23s then his got to be pretty dam good.

 

[npearl4spurs]

Spurs Idol do you think the FA has missed a trick by not having CCV and Maghoma in the squad I know CCV has signed up for USA but its a bold move playing for another country when your English so you have to wonder if tis more do with ineptitude from the FA, or he just fancies furthing his education and life exp?

Although there is 12 different clubs represent in that squad but if CCV is good enough to play for USA under 23s then his got to be pretty dam good.

Probably both life experience and ambition for him, I would imagine. Seems obvious that if he's looking for the biggest challenge he would go into a team and matches with older competition. I don't know what the transition "percentage" from USA u-21s and/or u-23s to the national squad is, but it naturally seems like a closer step.

I'm American and not English, but from what others have said here on SC, the consensus on the FA seems to be low anyway. Also as an American, I couldn't be happier to have a chance at another THFC player in the team

 

[Spursidol]

Spurs Idol do you think the FA has missed a trick by not having CCV and Maghoma in the squad I know CCV has signed up for USA but its a bold move playing for another country when your English so you have to wonder if tis more do with ineptitude from the FA, or he just fancies furthing his education and life exp?

Although there is 12 different clubs represent in that squad but if CCV is good enough to play for USA under 23s then his got to be pretty dam good.

Given the Spurs Academy's reputation over the last few years I've been surprised that there are not more of the Spurs youngsters in the England squads generally.

So yes I'd have assumed that the England u18's would include CCV, Maghoma and KWP from the defence and perhaps Loft as striker - they've got as far as KWP but seemingly either been blind or been rejected by the others.

Whilst the FA can reasonably have a go at the PL for the number of overseas players on the PL, the FA do not help themselves by the selection of players in the youth squads (which is a training ground and giving experience leading up to the main England squad).

 

[newbie]

I am glad he is playing above is age group so he has to learn to use skill rather than just his size.

I don't remember seeing many Southampton players in any of the age groups either, it seems mainly Chelsea, Liverpool Everton, Man U, arsenal in most of the squads I have seen.