The Cricket Thread

[$hoguN]

Buttler and Mott will be going and rightly so

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

Really poor performance all round.

Buttler seems to be a poor captain compared to Morgan.

Our bowling attack is poor and off form, Curran needs dropping and Livingstone has been average at best but our batting has been even worse.

Bairstow needs to get dropped and Malan needs to up his game.

Root played well, Rashid and Wood did ok, the rest were very poor.

Zero chance we get to the semi’s now, we looks a poor side this tournament, even Ben Stokes won’t be able to save us this time.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

I'm really not seeing nay leadership out there? I love Buttler as a player but he's really not getting the guys going. Not sure if they've given up, or are expecting to just roll teams over?

Agree the team look very down on confidence, have done since bowl 1 match 1.

 

[funkycoldmedina]

It's that age old issue of a successful team not being transitioned into a younger one and getting found out. Realistically Ali, Wood, Woakes, Bairstow, maybe even Rashid should have been replaced a few years ago in preparation for this World Cup. It's hard to do because they were still performing but England now look like and old tired side with no new tricks

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

Malan needs to up his game.

Up his game?

I think you've hung on to a preconceived notion for a bit too long here. A while ago yeah, you might have had a case and i'd have agreed with you but he's turned that around massively.

He's averaging over 60 at around run a ball. Four hundreds in his last ten innings, and two scores of over 50. Right now, of all the things that might be pointed at, he ain't one of them.

 

[Boots22]

Said before the tournament started I thought we looked miles weaker than 2019. Topley & Curran is a huge downgrade on Archer & Plunkett. Love Buttler as a player but i'm not having him as captain one bit either

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

Up his game?

I think you've hung on to a preconceived notion for a bit too long here. A while ago yeah, you might have had a case and i'd have agreed with you but he's turned that around massively.

He's averaging over 60 at around run a ball. Four hundreds in his last ten innings, and two scores of over 50. Right now, of all the things that might be pointed at, he ain't one of them.

Yea fair and I just meant in this World Cup in particular as agree his recent form has been good, I’d just like to see more from our openers (especially Bairstow) but to be fair I had in my head Malan had also got out for about 30 against Bangladesh but I forgot he was the one who got 140, I was thinking that was Root.

So yea fair, Malan is the least of our problems right now I take that back.

Bairstow though has been really disappointing.

Brook has done ok this WC and Root has been good.

The middle order and bowlers have been pretty poor and Buttler doesn’t seem like a good captain.

A lot of holes at the moment, I don’t think Stokes back will save us, I think SA are going to give us a hiding at the weekend (Cricket & Rugby).

 

[theShiznit]

I find it strange that the confidence and attitude that the Test side has garnered since McCullum took over has not transferred in the slightest to the one day game.

I appreciate the Coach/Captain are different but a lot of the players remain.

While the test team seem to play without fear and confidence that they won't be chastised for making the brave/bold/attacking choice, the one day team on the flip side seem to be playing from a place of fear, fear of losing, fear of being dropped, fear of getting out playing too attacking.

Still time to turn it around but some of them look well short mentally.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

I find it strange that the confidence and attitude that the Test side has garnered since McCullum took over has not transferred in the slightest to the one day game.

I appreciate the Coach/Captain are different but a lot of the players remain.

While the test team seem to play without fear and confidence that they won't be chastised for making the brave/bold/attacking choice, the one day team on the flip side seem to be playing from a place of fear, fear of losing, fear of being dropped, fear of getting out playing too attacking.

Still time to turn it around but some of them look well short mentally.

Yea that’s the thing this is a fairly decent set of players but they look bereft of confidence.

 

[Cel]

I find it strange that the confidence and attitude that the Test side has garnered since McCullum took over has not transferred in the slightest to the one day game.

I appreciate the Coach/Captain are different but a lot of the players remain.

While the test team seem to play without fear and confidence that they won't be chastised for making the brave/bold/attacking choice, the one day team on the flip side seem to be playing from a place of fear, fear of losing, fear of being dropped, fear of getting out playing too attacking.

Still time to turn it around but some of them look well short mentally.

Funny thing is, you could put our batting test team out, and just ask them to play the same way, and get a decent 50 over result out of it them just playing normally. Just swapping in Adil Rashid for whatever spinner, and maybe Malan in at 3 instead of Pope. Root goes back to 4.

Its funny to watch the 50 over side be less positive and attacking.

 

[Dunc2610]

Funny thing is, you could put our batting test team out, and just ask them to play the same way, and get a decent 50 over result out of it them just playing normally. Just swapping in Adil Rashid for whatever spinner, and maybe Malan in at 3 instead of Pope. Root goes back to 4.

Its funny to watch the 50 over side be less positive and attacking.

I think it stems from the management team, ie Buttler and Mott. Buttler isn't the proactive personality that Stokes is and Mott is....well....invisible it seems.

 

[PCozzie]

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[Timbo Tottenham]

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Crikey.

 

[PCozzie]

Crikey.

England for the wooden spoon?

 

[Timbo Tottenham]

England for the wooden spoon?

Can they hit a ball with it?

 

[PCozzie]

Can they hit a ball with it?

Boycott reckons he can.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

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What a match that was and performance from Holland especially with the ball.

We could end up bottom 2 at this rate

 

[UncleBuck]

I’d actually say that was more of a shock than us losing to the Afghans, takes the media spotlight off them for a while to hopefully sort themselves out.

 

[midoshairband]

I’d actually say that was more of a shock than us losing to the Afghans, takes the media spotlight off them for a while to hopefully sort themselves out.

nice try Jos

 

[UncleBuck]

nice try Jos

Didn’t work did it?