The Daily ITK Discussion Thread - 15th May 2014

[Yid-ol]

And Torres, Ba & Eto'o won the Premiership with Chelsea right???
Van Persie & Rooney fired United into........ 7th!

Van Persia and Rooney have been in and out with injuries, plus the rest of the united team just hasn't been good enough!

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

Maybe the new manager has already been consulted...

I'd say the chances of that are skinny. We know that Levy has in the past signed players whilst we've had no manager but even if you put that aside, i'm of the opinion that this is a signing based on potential/development rather than one that would be expected to step straight into the first team on a regular basis.

 

[Yid-ol]

Maybe the new manager has already been consulted...

You mean this new manager will get a say in who we sign!

If we don't move early we normally panic buy at the end or lose out on some good deals, I'd hope that we do move for some good bargains now on younger players

 

[loaderspurs]

Like last year, with every transfer rumour I find myself considering our homegrown quota, especially considering people want rose, naughton, Lennon, siggy etc out. This why I like when we're linked with Rodriguez, Darlow and others. I get the feeling our non home growns will be signed as replacements to current, rather than in addition to. Butshuayi for adebayor in this case?

 

[Mr Pink]

I'm not convinced we should be making bids for any players until we have a manager in place.

Absolutely, unless of course we've consulted the next manager lol

 

[absolute bobbins]

Maybe the new manager has already been consulted...

This could be true, he does coach in the neighbouring league but then again he is in Indonesia (i hope)

 

[TheChosenOne]

Think his name is too difficult for our fanbase, we should probably stick with Kane...

Micky Batshit will be good enough as a moniker.

 

[loaderspurs]

For those saying we shouldn't be signing anyone until the new manager is in place, that is not the way the DoF works. The whole point of a DoF is meant to be for continuity in squad ability and style. The manager is just the head coach, they are brought in to coach and utilise the players available. No need for the manager to be here to finalise the signings. Now whether you agree with that or not is a whole different matter...

 

[TheChosenOne]

Can we spell it Cane...much easier

You should be Abel - btw "Kane" is an Irish derived name. I know loads of them.

 

[EJWTartanSpur]

I think Ade's wages is a big red herring. I thought we or they paid a lumpsum when he signed to offset his wage reduction, yet everyone still thinks he is subsidised?

Regardless, his contract is now in the 'sell now or get nothing later' position and he is quite old. Levy will have looked at his player spreadsheet and Ade will have been top of the 'get rid' list. That doesn't even consider the various behind the scenes issues.

I think the lump sum covered the first two years of a four year contract with the wage going back up to what it was at City after those two years

 

[TottenhamMattSpur]

Lol at "get rid"

That worked well with Rebrov, Bentley, Gomes, etc etc.

 

[Klinsmannesque]

I think the lump sum covered the first two years of a four year contract with the wage going back up to what it was at City after those two years

You think Levy would actually do that? A big jump up in wages for a player thats 2 years older than when we first signed him? Can anyone say how many of you are privvy to the contract of Adebayor to make claims that go completely against Levy's whole model? Understandable City subsidising for the length of the contract he had with them but maybe the reason he's been in good form is the reason behind always hitting good form - engineering a move becasue he wants his top up to what it was.

 

[LukeBB]

I have no problem with Baldini and Levy arranging transfers such as Batshuayi, young players with great potential who most forward thinking managers would have little problem with. What I would have a problem with is if we've already appointed our new manager without giving formal interviews to the likes of De Boer (who's only recently returned from indonesia with the Ajax squad). This next appointment must be right, we cannot afford another 3 years like the last 3 years, with all the money that midtable teams are raking in, midtable teams are catching up, we're already having enough issues with Everton and Liverpool now finishing above us. Teams like Swansea are able to buy the likes of Bony and soon other teams will be making similar transfers. We need a manager with experience of competing on 4 fronts, cause next year the only hope we have of Champions League is if we win the Europa League.

 

[Dr Know]

Yay another foreigner from a shit league and unproven

I would suggest dropping the word "foreigner" there mate as that could apply to some of the best players Spurs have had on there books, from Ardiles to Lloris.

On the shit league, I can see what you're saying but there's a calling for FDB to be the next manager and some could say he's in a shit league but that don't mean he won't be any good at Spurs

 

[nferno]

Does that matter? Pretty sure Bale supports Arsenal.

I hate this misconception. Walcott said this to wind up Spurs fans like the little shit he is. Not true at all, no other indicator of him being a fan of them. Bale didn't even respond... unlike Bergkamp worming his way out of admitting he grew up a Spurs fan by saying he was a Hoddle fan.

A better example to use would be Defoe, plenty of proof (namely from the horse's mouth) that he's an Arsenal fan but gave his all for us. I'd suggest Timbo too but that ones probably a little raw for some still...

 

[WalkerboyUK]

I would suggest dropping the word "foreigner" there mate as that could apply to some of the best players Spurs have had on there books, from Ardiles to Lloris.

On the shit league, I can see what you're saying but there's a calling for FDB to be the next manager and some could say he's in a shit league but that don't mean he won't be any good at Spurs

And Lukaku came from the same "shit" league.....

 

[loaderspurs]

It's funny, when the likes of benteke, bony or lukaku have storming seasons this forum is filled with comments saying we should be on the lookout for players of similar ilk, and we need to get them before they go to a bigger club. And here we are linked with that exact player, yet people don't want him. I give up...

 

[EJWTartanSpur]

You think Levy would actually do that? A big jump up in wages for a player thats 2 years older than when we first signed him? Can anyone say how many of you are privvy to the contract of Adebayor to make claims that go completely against Levy's whole model? Understandable City subsidising for the length of the contract he had with them but maybe the reason he's been in good form is the reason behind always hitting good form - engineering a move becasue he wants his top up to what it was.

Its not particularly important what I think. I'm simply relaying the info that was about at the time he signed for us. Yes, I think it is exactly something Levy would do - agree to this in order to get Adebayor signed permanently as he seemed like the best possible striker we could get at the time ( off the back of a great season loan for us ), already with a view to selling him on once the two years were up, and most likely for a price at least equal to what we got him for considering he was signed for a marginal fee. That would exactly fit in with his modus operandi. It would also further explain why Ade's exclusion by AVB might not have gone down well.

And for Ade, he would be playing to try and engineer a move to as good a club as possible because he knows Levy will sell him as the contract is due to increase.

 

[StanSpur]

For those saying we shouldn't be signing anyone until the new manager is in place, that is not the way the DoF works. The whole point of a DoF is meant to be for continuity in squad ability and style. The manager is just the head coach, they are brought in to coach and utilise the players available. No need for the manager to be here to finalise the signings. Now whether you agree with that or not is a whole different matter...

I agree and we are talking about a 20 year old with a 1 in 2.something record, he wouldn't cost too much and if he doesnt develop in the next couple years then he moves on. I'm pretty sure any coach will be happy with a quick, strong, young player as an option. He obviously wouldn't be seen as our number one striker by the club. Having said that the finish by Oduwa at Ledleys do the other night shows we may have similar already in the ranks. A youngster i would like us to snap up is Ryan Gauld at Dundee. I know he's all the rage at the moment having made the top prospects list but he genuinely looks like a modric type player in the making.

 

[SpartanSpur]

Absolutely no problem with us going in for young promising players like this before the manager gets in place. These sort of signings are always going to be primarily from the scouting team and DOF anyway. Lets be honest most U21 signings for us probably don't even establish themselves until at least one or two managers have been sacked during their stay!

If we went out and spent £15m plus on a first team player without at least consulting the prospective managers however that would be stupid.