The Daily ITK Discussion Thread - 16th May 2012

[HappySpur]

The thing about this link-up player, is that they are the most expensive players in the world. Even more so than a goal-scorer. Somebody mentioned Giroud, earlier. There's a guy who is a physically dominating #9 who holds the ball up, scored 21 and assisted 9. And after one year, his price is astronomical. Look at the price on Dzeko. They are rare and expensive. So clubs like us need to develop them (and it's hard to do). And maybe we have one in Kane, but he'll probably get a year on loan in the Prem before we give him a chance. So it's not easy without unlimited funds.

 

[steveb]

It stems from looking for a source of goals in the 4231. He's the only one of the attackers that doesn't really have a nose for the goal. He'd be a great impact sub and cover if he'd be content with that role though. Somehow I doubt he would.

Whilst we don't want to get too technical your point regarding 4231 is very valid.

If you look at us at present and analyze our so called first 11, the only real area you are going to get goals is from Ade, VdV and Bale. Lennon is a great wide player in a 4-4-2 or 4-4-1-1 but sadley does not have the eye for goal to play in a 4-2-3-1 which is maybe why Remy is on the radar, and as was Hazard.

If we are to presume that 4-2-3-1 is our system for next season then i am afraid there are a couple of players that this could effect as they are simply not suited to it, Lennon as mention, Defoe as he likes a strike partner, and this also is a good plan b if Modric decides to leave as Parker, Sandro and the Hudd can all comfortably play as the two deep midfield players. A lot of teams are now going for this system or a 4-3-3 so your front three or four certainly need to know where the back of the net is.

 

[beats1]

Well Falcao is for sale this summer, pipe dream I know, but apparently Atletico Madrid payed 20 million (don't know if Euros or £'s) and then a third party ownership payed the rest, because they haven't got Champions League this season they will have to sell to pay off third party

Apparently he would available for 30 million to 40 million

 

[shaqTHFC]

Well Falcao is for sale this summer, pipe dream I know, but apparently Atletico Madrid payed 20 million (don't know if Euros or £'s) and then a third party ownership payed the rest, because they haven't got Champions League this season they will have to sell to pay off third party

Apparently he would available for 30 million to 40 million

If they had to sell him, they'd at least expect their money back though surely, and I think he cost them around £35-40m so it's probably out of our price range and bigger clubs would want him. Amazing player though.

 

[am_yisrael_chai]

Cavani is the complete striker, if Citeh, Chelski et al don't move in for him then we should. If we can't afford the 35-40m then sell Modric to finance it.

Highly unlikely I know as Cavani will be in the Category A along with guys like Llorente. We will more likely need to look to Category B, young player with potential like Lewandowski, De Jong etc.

What we can't do is not move because we fail to land a Category A player.

 

[Bus-Conductor]

What's with all the 'replacement for Lennon' talk? Aarons always been good for us. Admittedly i know fuck all about Remy..apart from he's black.

He's not really been that great for us, the balance of promise/delivery has always been heavily weighted in the promise side with Lennon. I think Hoodlum makes a good point below:

It stems from looking for a source of goals in the 4231. He's the only one of the attackers that doesn't really have a nose for the goal. He'd be a great impact sub and cover if he'd be content with that role though. Somehow I doubt he would.

Only trouble with that is Redknapp is very reluctant to play 4231. He could easily have played it with Lennon, but apart from one when Lennon came os as sub against Swansea I think, he's never played Lennon in anything other than a 4 man midfield.

 

[ryantegan]

I think we should make a move for a star striker that'll be at the euros


Danny Welbeck!

How fucking bad is that squad

 

[Clamour_Kid]

Well Falcao is for sale this summer, pipe dream I know, but apparently Atletico Madrid payed 20 million (don't know if Euros or £'s) and then a third party ownership payed the rest, because they haven't got Champions League this season they will have to sell to pay off third party

Apparently he would available for 30 million to 40 million

In my personal opinion, if Luka is doubting his future at Spurs, I would prefer that we sold him for £30m-£40m and then bought Falcao (or Llorente) with the money. Then, by selling a few dead wood, I would try and get Christian Eriksen to work alongside Rafa in order to grow in to Luka's position. They can share that position, if you like.

I believe we need Class A striker a lot more than we need a Class A playmaker.

All the top teams have one and if we want to be a top team, then we need one too!

 

[gilzeantheking]

Adebayor would like to stay it seems

http://www.thisislon...ue-7757429.html

That would sort one striker out

 

[JUSTINSIGNAL]

In my personal opinion, if Luka is doubting his future at Spurs, I would prefer that we sold him for £30m-£40m and then bought Falcao (or Llorente) with the money. Then, by selling a few dead wood, I would try and get Christian Eriksen to work alongside Rafa in order to grow in to Luka's position. They can share that position, if you like.

I believe we need Class A striker a lot more than we need a Class A playmaker.

All the top teams have one and if we want to be a top team, then we need one too!

We need a Class A striker but we can't pay Class A wages. So it's not going to happen.

Falcao will be on 100K + a week at Atletico. The quicker people understand this the quicker you can start making sensible suggestions on who we should target.

 

[Clamour_Kid]

We need a Class A striker but we can't pay Class A wages. So it's not going to happen.

Falcao will be on 100K + a week at Atletico. The quicker people understand this the quicker you can start making sensible suggestions on who we should target.

You are right about us not being able to attract players that want class A wages. But in my honest opinion, VDV is Class A and Levy paid.

BUT... Am I mistaken then, or is it true that Spurs don't have a wage structure as such but just a wage budget. If that is the case, then shipping Bentley, Gio, Defoe & Bassong will easily pay for Falcao or Llorente's wages.

I think there is too much deadwood on a lot of money in our squad. The quicker they are out, the better.

 

[HappySpur]

According to this site, there's no way we can sign a striker

Here are our only options

1) a proven player so their wage demands will be too too high
2) a young player that everybody knows about so their transfer fee will be too high
3) a young player that few know about so they are unproven and thus too risky
4) a player from a lesser EPL team thus shit
5) a player from a lower league thus shittier than shit

So we might as well throw in the towel now.

I think some of you need to give up the dream of a name and trust the staff to find players that will do the job until we can afford the big names after the new stadium. Of course, by then Kane and Coulibaly will be the greatest 1-2 punch in Europe and we won't need to buy stars

 

[Clamour_Kid]

According to this site, there's no way we can sign a striker

Here are our only options

1) a proven player so their wage demands will be too too high
2) a young player that everybody knows about so their transfer fee will be too high
3) a young player that few know about so they are unproven and thus too risky
4) a player from a lesser EPL team thus shit
5) a player from a lower league thus shittier than shit

So we might as well throw in the towel now.

I think some of you need to give up the dream of a name and trust the staff to find players that will do the job until we can afford the big names after the new stadium. Of course, by then Kane and Coulibaly will be the greatest 1-2 punch in Europe and we won't need to buy stars

I like it. Very funny. But I only half agree. We've gone out and paid big fees for players. We do pay above average wages; but to some dire players too! It's about sorting this out. We can get top players, just not A* players. We can't go out and get Aguero from Atletico unless we were the only team in the race and did it quietly.

That is Spurs "problem" - quoted because it is not really a problem - in that, our excellent Chairman DL wants to make sure the financial welfare of the club is excellent and when deciding on buying players takes in to account everything from the potential sell-on fee to the size of bidet the player wants in his new house. If all of it ain't right, we don't buy. We don't take risks, and I am glad, but also, it does hinder us slightly when we are pursuing the right player.

 

[TEESSIDE1]

According to this site, there's no way we can sign a striker

Here are our only options

1) a proven player so their wage demands will be too too high
2) a young player that everybody knows about so their transfer fee will be too high
3) a young player that few know about so they are unproven and thus too risky
4) a player from a lesser EPL team thus shit
5) a player from a lower league thus shittier than shit

So we might as well throw in the towel now.

I think some of you need to give up the dream of a name and trust the staff to find players that will do the job until we can afford the big names after the new stadium. Of course, by then Kane and Coulibaly will be the greatest 1-2 punch in Europe and we won't need to buy stars

So what your saying is that Redknapp and co need to find us another deadly duo of Crouch and Defoe? lol .... nearly forgot, and super Pav

 

[ParkySpur]

I think hoillett would be a great signing. He managed to impress in a terrible team with a shoddy manager. In an open attacking team full of class he could prosper. And for just a tribunal fee we'd be mad not to IMO.

 

[HappySpur]

So what your saying is that Redknapp and co need to find us another deadly duo of Crouch and Defoe? lol .... nearly forgot, and super Pav

To be fair to Harry, he made that strike force into a CL side. Now that I say it, maybe I shouldn't be so hard on Harry. Fucking hell, even Ferguson and Mourinho couldn't get into Europe with that.

 

[Spurvert]

Get Ade's wages agreed and he's ours. Great interview from him.

 

[venablesphil]

I think hoillett would be a great signing. He managed to impress in a terrible team with a shoddy manager. In an open attacking team full of class he could prosper. And for just a tribunal fee we'd be mad not to IMO.

Think Hoillet would be a good addition to the squad, he would give us a few extra options and more importantly provide excellent cover/competition for Lennon. I felt that the balance of the team was badly affected when Lennon was injured as we had to change our style of play. Having sufficient strength in depth down the flanks next season is going to be an important part of us doing well IMO.

 

[Viper]

Hope we can sign Ade permenatly and I Would like us to make a move for Matias Suarez from Anderlecht. The guy has it all, great pace, awesome finishing with good technical ability and can use both feet. He would work well with Ade.

 

[markiespurs]

Come on Levy, work your negotiation magic and get Adebayor signed