The Daily ITK Discussion Thread - 19th August 2013

[Col_M]

There's no need to hope for anything from RM. they're at our mercy if they want Bale. He's not putting up a stink like Modric did. Spurs hold all 52 cards.

Except the Joker?

 

[Gedson100]

Not sure if I looked at an article correctly, Liverpool offered a 50% sell on fee if Willian moved on to another club in the future? Levy would not install that incentive at all.

That Liverpool incentive, if true, has to be the most hollow and pointless incentive I have ever seen.
He's 25. Presumably you're signing him with the intention of staying a few years. He will have to turn info Messi to ever command a higher transfer fee. Just daft!

 

[danielneeds]

Its a fair point. However I can't help but feel if Madrid wanted this done it would be happening by now, or at the very least very soon and the wheels would be well in motion.

I know its a huge amount of money no matter what and when/if the offer comes its bound to test Levy providing it isn't way off - but why havn't they acted yet?

Are they going to get the better of Levy through brinkmanship? Not for me. Do they believe a last minute offer way below what we want is going to tempt us? Again, not for me.

They'll know what we want, nothing is happenin. I'm far from convinced this deal will happen this summer. Perhaps that's Levy's feeling as well at the moment.

Might explain why we are upping our efforts to get Willian now to.

They're just operating the same strategy as Modric last year though, both parties jockeying until the last minute to see who breaks first. They know we will sell, we know they are going to bid. It's like a Western before high noon.

 

[Shadydan]

What about if Madrid offer what we're asking on deadline day or close to it? Then the whole strategy is blown apart if we don't have time to get in a replacement. That is my worry.

The deadline in Spain to buy players is the 31st August where as the deadline for England is 2nd September, so if that were the case then it would give us a day or so to find a replacement.

 

[dixiespurs]

Does JJ have to keep taking little shots at POTL? Seems arrogant to me. Appreciate the info, but no need for the POTL comment.

Perhaps they are the same person, playing us to think it's two different, disagreeing sources

 

[Francis Gibbs]

I know we are all lost in the midst of the great Willian and or Lamela fest but just watched the game back again from yesterday and would just like to say - quality CB please to supplement Verts and Kaboul

 

[Mr Pink]

They're just operating the same strategy as Modric last year though, both parties jockeying until the last minute to see who breaks first. They know we will sell, we know they are going to bid. It's like a Western before high noon.

They know we will sell for x amount - big difference.

Modric was different, we had kept him another season after not allowing him to join Chelsea. The sums involved are vastly greater as well, obviously.

I think our position was weaker with Modric somewhat.

 

[WiganSpur]

Has JJ mentioned anything on Willian today?

 

[Col_M]

That Liverpool incentive, if true, has to be the most hollow and pointless incentive I have ever seen.
He's 25. Presumably you're signing him with the intention of staying a few years. He will have to turn info Messi to ever command a higher transfer fee. Just daft!

Not really. They are saying that if they were to sell him on then they would share the profit. They aren't saying they intend to.

 

[theShiznit]

What about if Madrid offer what we're asking on deadline day or close to it? Then the whole strategy is blown apart if we don't have time to get in a replacement. That is my worry.

Levy could impose a deadline and an incremental rise in any transfer fee for every day after the deadline passes.

 

[absolute bobbins]

Except the Joker?

We fired him last summer

 

[Mr Pink]

Has JJ mentioned anything on Willian today?

Just in response to Liverpool fans claiming we are nicking the players they have scouted lol

So clearly he's in line with the view that we are going for him. Certainly didn't piss on it

 

[Indisguise]

I think this conversation more or less just confirms what JJ has been saying lately.

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   @jetsetyid You're being very chatty today
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   @Tegan_Jovanka I know, preparing for my retirement :0)
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   @jetsetyid Wish you weren't going. You're the only "ITK" I trust.
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   @Tegan_Jovanka Ha ha. All ITK's retire or get found out. Short shelflife.Need to know when to stop. New kid on the block hopefully soon?
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   Jo ‏@Tegan_Jovanka
   
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   @jetsetyid One last time then... you might remember how much I love Bale ?? Is there a teeny tiny chance he might not go this summer??
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   @Tegan_Jovanka of course there is if they can't finalise the fee etc He wants to go mind you.

 

[YiddoInPoland]

Man this sure is going to be a comedown if Willian goes Liverpool.

Hope our confidence is justified

I agree with this. I think some are discounting Liverpool, which is wrong IMO. They may not be the swashbuckling side they once were but they still have a big draw and are still a massive club.

 

[Riandor]

I think our position was weaker with Modric somewhat.

More than somewhat, Modric was public, Bale was not. It's the same with Lamela. We will not sign him on the cheap if he is available and interested because Roma do not have to sell one of their prized assets and will rightly like we are hold out for what they believe is fair value.

Willian and Anzhi are an odd one, clearly want it done quickly, but Liverpool have seemingly made a strong early bid, so this will not happen on the cheap.

Coentrao also has handed in a transfer request, thus lessening Madrid's bargaining power in terms of fee for him, which is exactly what they expect of Bale.

The longer this goes on the more confused I am honestly.

 

[marvel]

That's good news. Levy won't back down on the fee and rumours they can't afford it. Sounds 50:50 to me, which I'll take at this point.

 

[danielneeds]

They know we will sell for x amount - big difference.

Modric was different, we had kept him another season after not allowing him to join Chelsea. The sums involved are vastly greater as well, obviously.

I think our position was weaker with Modric somewhat.

The only difference is Bale has an extra year on his deal. Once we entered into negotiations we basically admitted there was a deal to be done. We could have got unequivocal like Liverpool with Suarez, but we didn't. That's why I expect it to happen. The only thing that will stop it is if Levy is not satisfied with their financial guarantees IMO.

Anyway we better take this over to the Bale thread if we wish to continue otherwise A&C will get his ban dildo out...

 

[AssaTM]

We already know the situation with Bale, the question everyone should be asking is, if Bale does stay, will he give it his all for us and get on with it like Modric did in 2011?

 

[neptunes]

Except the Joker?

joker............ I take it being Perez

 

[Indisguise]

We already know the situation with Bale, the question everyone should be asking is, if Bale does stay, will he give it his all for us and get on with it like Modric did in 2011?

If he doesn't then he ruins his "good boy" image and puts a question mark over his character for any team interested in buying him. Despite the reports, I don't think he's being a prick at the moment anyway, so I can't see him ever behaving like that to be honest.