The Daily ITK Discussion Thread 27th July

[Insomnia]

Made up that Mousa is staying, class player & I think, if we manage his playing time this Season he can still be immense for us

 

[Klinsmannic]

Huge potential but would almost certainly be a loan without us having a buying option. No point doing that imo.

(Unless of course we're desperate on deadline day...)

 

[etchedchaos]

Huge potential but would almost certainly be a loan without us having a buying option. No point doing that imo.

(Unless of course we're desperate on deadline day...)

Why no option? If he doesn't meet expectations we're not obligated to buy him.

 

[knowlespurs]

Dembele staying means also with Dier, Winks, Josh staying and Wanyama there is very little chance of us signing a CM

 

[allatsea]

Do Barca want rid of OD or just want a decent club to give him playing time and experience ? If they want rid why ? If it is playing time no way will they give an option to buy and that would make it a complete non starter for us I would have thought.

 

[ernest_lowrider]

Dembele staying means also with Dier, Winks, Josh staying and Wanyama there is very little chance of us signing a CM

I'm pretty sure that ITKs we had suggested we're going to sign 1 cm or 2 if Dembele leaves.

 

[lukadownthelane]

Don’t see the point of Dembele on loan unless there’s a purchase fee agreed. He’d take a while to settle I imagine

 

[Chris Flynn]

before he moved to Barca people on here were drooling over Dembele, but now there is a solid link he's not good enough? I dosent always work out at a club like Barca for everyone, the teams entirely build around Messi. some of you are so fickle!

 

[SpartanSpur]

Some of the deals the likes of Barca have done in recent years are very anti-Levy. They usually want to include affordable buy-backs and other clauses. No doubt they'd charge a massive loan fee too.

Agree with others in that it'd be a last minute desperation grab if anything. If they were willing to sell at a similar price to Zaha/Martial I could see us going for it though.

I do wonder if this is all agent led and when it comes to it Barca end up being unwilling to lose him.

 

[King of Otters]

before he moved to Barca people on here were drooling over Dembele, but now there is a solid link he's not good enough? I dosent always work out at a club like Barca for everyone, the teams entirely build around Messi. some of you are so fickle!

He's quality, but we won't get him, so don't worry about it, Chris.

 

[Legacy]

Dembele staying means also with Dier, Winks, Josh staying and Wanyama there is very little chance of us signing a CM

Dembele will be used sparingly this year. Winks has had multiple injuries and can't be trusted to stay fit for a whole season yet. Onomah hasn't played CM for the first team before. Dier has been very hot and cold for a while and Wanyama is still getting over that big injury.

There's still plenty of reason to be looking for a new CM. Dembele staying just means we don't have to hope the new boy hits the ground running and carries the team right from the off.

 

[Parkie]

Do Barca want rid of OD or just want a decent club to give him playing time and experience ? If they want rid why ? If it is playing time no way will they give an option to buy and that would make it a complete non starter for us I would have thought.

Goat said “being offered around by agents” - could be that Barca want rid/want some experience. Could also be that his agent is trying to remind them to play him and boost his profile ahead of the new season.

 

[kieranfitchett]

would be a fantastic signing but can't see barca letting him go permanently for a fee anywhere near what we could afford having signed him for 100m+ last summer

 

[banndervaart]

Mousa staying is good news, but he's no longer first choice out there for me. On the other Dembele. That could certainly be a coup, but I imagine his wages would be rather high given his Barca playing time last season was consistent, and the fact they paid €105 million plus a reported €40 million add-ons

 

[Gassin's finest]

I'd be delighted if Moose was to stay personally. And here's hoping Hugo can be a deciding factor for the other Dembele, because he looked like a prospect.

 

[Chris Flynn]

He's quality, but we won't get him, so don't worry about it, Chris.

its probably just a defensive mechanism brought on by the summer so far. i agree its very unlikely

 

[MyNameIsNicolaBerti]

Ousmane Dembele? Can't see it myself. Surely Barca will want something back on their huge original outlay? Unless it's a loan...

 

[TC18]

Can see us trying the new “in thing” and trying to get him on a 2 year loan.

Even if it has no option to buy it’ll only cost us his wages (a guess at £7m a year). For 2 years we would have a quality player for very little outlay, with more money to spend elsewhere.

 

[SpartanSpur]

My issue with O.Dembele becoming in option is just that, it's another option. I think Levy needs to be focused on one target and up against the wall to actually pay the amount required to seal a deal for Zaha or Martial.

 

[Sandro30]

Ousmane Dembele? Can't see it myself. Surely Barca will want something back on their huge original outlay? Unless it's a loan...

Lets not pretend that Zaha and Martial aren’t in the 50-70 bracket themselves though. That’s the market we’re now in. Like a few others have said, zero chance they get their initial investment back. I don’t think the Dembele fee would be too different to that of the aforementioned Zaha and Martial.