The Daily ITK Discussion Thread - Shakedown! 13th January 2015

[E17yid]

We'll have a profit of 5m after this window. Which is just the Naughton sale. Nothing else is happening. No chance anyone else leaves or anyone comes in. Might as well forget about top 4. Best chance for CL football is winning the Europa and we have no chance at that either. Wedont have the depth at all. After our first XI, we are

Wow.

It's not even that late in NYC. You drunk already?

 

[Lilbaz]

Maybe you should just lower your expectations or even get a life?

The time it took me to reply (and the fact it's 02:00 in the morning) might hint that I have a life. Unlike the snoring bitch next to me in a couple of minutes.

 

[Jospur]

We'll have a profit of 5m after this window. Which is just the Naughton sale. Nothing else is happening. No chance anyone else leaves or anyone comes in. Might as well forget about top 4. Best chance for CL football is winning the Europa and we have no chance at that either. Wedont have the depth at all. After our first XI, we are

I think you're wrong about the 5m profit. Expect more player sales and more profit - and perhaps a 'bargain' acquisition to placate the fans. I just hope the 'cheap' new player(s) are more impressive than Saha and Nelson.

 

[rossdapep]

Two loans sounds about right and I'm more than happy to think that loch is trimming the squad of its excess. However, I think we will hit a wall if we don't bring in a striker and some pace and creativity to the side. As many have pointed out Kane is bound to either get injured or lose form and that will be that.

 

[rocklink]

Agree but who does? Liverpool? Man Utd? All as bad as each other. You're right we're not good enough but it's still wide open for any of the normal top 8 to grab 4th.

did you watch liverpool games for the last couple of weeks ? they are two hundred times better team than us .. agree about utd though !!

 

[lol]

Poch?

..shhh

We need more than just pace to supply crosses. We need someone who can use that pace combined with aggressive dribbling to pull defenders, beat them, and open gaps for the rest of the side to work through.

exactly. and that man is not lennon. he's no longer the player who wored 25. what he does nowadays is only as effective[if not less] as what a full back does. would gladly sell him and get boetius

 

[JJetset]

As per my post on Jan 6th i said i may pop back in late Jan and here i am.
Not likely that anything will happen this week.
Maybe an out or two but that's not really down to us and therefore hard to predict.

 

[allatsea]

As per my post on Jan 6th i said i may pop back in late Jan and here i am.
Not likely that anything will happen this week.
Maybe an out or two but that's not really down to us and therefore hard to predict.

Happy days

 

[ButchCassidy]

As per my post on Jan 6th i said i may pop back in late Jan and here i am.
Not likely that anything will happen this week.
Maybe an out or two but that's not really down to us and therefore hard to predict.

Thanks JJ. Unsurprising but good to hear it from the horse's mouth.

 

[Teddy Klinsmann]

As per my post on Jan 6th i said i may pop back in late Jan and here i am.
Not likely that anything will happen this week.
Maybe an out or two but that's not really down to us and therefore hard to predict.

As we were then.

 

[JUSTINSIGNAL]

Not talking about them. Didn't see their games. My comments are based upon what I saw at the Lane today.
However, city's exit owed more to their jaunt to the middle east than squad depth, methinks.

I agree with you. We don't have the squad strength to compete in all 4 competitions. But judging from yesterday's results neither do the top 2 teams in the country so I think you're expecting a little too much of our club.

 

[Ledleys Knee]

Happy days

All the signs have been there.

I'd just like to see quite a lot more than 1 or 2 exits.

 

[FrankSpencer]

If we sell Lennon, we should be going balls deep for Depay at a rapid rate.

Suddenly out of the shadows, the monkey idiots at The Express are linking him with us today.

 

[spacessships]

And thus, after weeks of drueling hopefully before wallowing into levels of near self harm and then back up again and back down and...we find ourselves in the final week of another window, somehow knowing even less than we did three weeks ago.

 

[Yid1987]

Can't say I'm surprised that another January will pass where those teams around will strengthen and we'll effectively weaken our squad, Levy makes a nice profit again that just disappears and the party line is "we're clearing out the deadwood ready for the summer, January is a sellers market". Will it be any surprise that in the summer we need to sell before we buy?

All this talk that there's money to spend on the right player is complete nonsense. As is the excuse of clearing the wage bill. Every January we make money & every summer we break even at worst. Great business model, shit football model as we experienced again yesterday with some of the mediocre rubbish I paid to watch. We have 4 maybe 5 players to thank for the results we've been getting and those results have papered over the cracks. Levy and Enic are ripping us apart. Lloris & Jan will be next out in the Summer. To be replaced by more dross like the last two summer's work.

 

[SpartanSpur]

Appreciate JJs info bit extremely disappointed.

Really hope we hardly sell anyone now, we need the depth and I'd rather us suffer the wages than weaken our squad at the end of a window AGAIN. Don't want to buy until summer, then don't sell either.

Nice to see another manager undermined, although at least at this one might not be scapegoated...

 

[Ledleys Knee]

And thus, after weeks of drueling hopefully before wallowing into levels of near self harm and then back up again and back down and...we find ourselves in the final week of another window, somehow knowing even less than we did three weeks ago.

It’s what we do though

We’ve not spent (net) for 6 years now. It’s our 10 years of austerity to pay for the stadium.

We never do business in January anymore either.

I just don’t get why people expect different.

Appreciate JJs info bit extremely disappointed.

Really hope we hardly sell anyone now, we need the depth and I'd rather us suffer the wages than weaken our squad at the end of a window AGAIN. Don't want to buy until summer, then don't sell either.

Nice to see another manager undermined, although at least at this one might not be scapegoated...

We’ve got the wrong sort of depth though. We have 18 good players, and about 12 crap ones.

We also don’t have any early round cup games any more, so there’s not really the need/opportunity to use the crap players

I don't agree it is undermining Poch. The one thing he's been banging on about since day 1 is that the squad is too big for him to work with

 

[mill]

The summer will be the same imo, this bloated squad of wasters problem will haunt us for a few seasons imo.

Let's face it with the strikers alone who's gonna take Ade on his wages? Who's gonna offer enough for us to recoup a respectable amount for Soldado?

Mystery seems to surround the contract length of ade and Kaboul, do they finish this season? Next season? Or is next season a years option? Going with form from the powers that be if it's a option we'll exercise it in the deluded belief of getting some money for the players

 

[cookiemonster]

Wasn't this headset bloke that posted earlier that the little baldy sense that top 4 is up for grabs this year and is willing to spend in January

Seems like's either the little baldy has given up or it's the same old raising of expectations again

 

[mill]

It’s what we do though

We’ve not spent (net) for 6 years now. It’s our 10 years of austerity to pay for the stadium.

We never do business in January anymore either.

I just don’t get why people expect different.




We’ve got the wrong sort of depth though. We have 18 good players, and about 12 crap ones.

We also don’t have any early round cup games any more, so there’s not really the need/opportunity to use the crap players

I don't agree it is undermining Poch. The one thing he's been banging on about since day 1 is that the squad is too big for him to work with

More like 12 good players and 18 crap/not good enough or not what we need imo