The Daily ITK Discussion Thread - The Donation Drive!

[CockOnBall]

The best way to retain players is success on the pitch. Do something positive this window to really make things happen this season, rather than just hoping for the best.

It's not just about the money and kudos of finishing in the CL places. It's about convincing the best players here that we can match their ambition and attracting others to join too.

That's true but if you're limited in terms of your transfer budget, success on field is likely to be limited. Therefore, it is probably wise to overpay or quickly reward your existing star players to squeeze more loyalty out of them. It may only buy an extra season (if that) but worth it given buying new players is obviously more costly.

I can't post the link but there's an excellent article on reddit about our funding issues. Without going off tangent, we will struggle to spend big for several seasons yet so prepare for more quiet transfer windows IMO.

 

[Insomnia]

you put your left arm ,in your left arm out, in out in out you shake it all about ,you do the dele alli & you turn around, that's what it's all about, oh dele dele alli, oh dele dele alli, oh dele dele ali knees bent arm stretched rah rah rah

 

[R_1001001]

you put your left arm ,in your left arm out, in out in out you shake it all about ,you do the dele alli & you turn around, that's what it's all about, oh dele dele alli, oh dele dele alli, oh dele dele ali knees bent arm stretched rah rah rah

... or for the dyslexic amongst us, I give you Tom Jones ...

"My, my, my, DeleAlli ..."

[/grabcoatmode]

 

[SpursNick73]

I dont contribute much in terms of posts and opinions but I like this site so have donated £10 to the coffers!

On another note, pleased Dele has signed a new long term improved contract... Well deserved.

 

[Spursidol]

That's true but if you're limited in terms of your transfer budget, success on field is likely to be limited. Therefore, it is probably wise to overpay or quickly reward your existing star players to squeeze more loyalty out of them. It may only buy an extra season (if that) but worth it given buying new players is obviously more costly.

I can't post the link but there's an excellent article on reddit about our funding issues. Without going off tangent, we will struggle to spend big for several seasons yet so prepare for more quiet transfer windows IMO.

Nope disagree, we will continue pretty much a we have done in the last 5 years - when we've funded a £45m training centre plus a lot of fees for the Northumberland Park Development, which probably doubles that figure.......and all coming out of the same pot as we've used to buy players.

We will also get one or two players a year through from our youth system so the number of new signings every year will never be that many - and probably funded in the main from sales of existing players, and with a young but reasonably experienced squad, all will go for decent fees.

 

[Breezer]

Nope disagree, we will continue pretty much a we have done in the last 5 years - when we've funded a £45m training centre plus a lot of fees for the Northumberland Park Development, which probably doubles that figure.......and all coming out of the same pot as we've used to buy players.

We will also get one or two players a year through from our youth system so the number of new signings every year will never be that many - and probably funded in the main from sales of existing players, and with a young but reasonably experienced squad, all will go for decent fees.

Agree. Without signing anyone, Winks, Onomah and Pritchard will be like 3 new signings next season. Adding a Striker this window would complete our squad. Then we can look to add one player each transfer window if needed. No more 5 out 7 in rubbish.

 

[dovahkiin]

i put some stadium itk from BEN in the stadium thread for those interested

 

[CockOnBall]

Nope disagree, we will continue pretty much a we have done in the last 5 years - when we've funded a £45m training centre plus a lot of fees for the Northumberland Park Development, which probably doubles that figure.......and all coming out of the same pot as we've used to buy players.

We will also get one or two players a year through from our youth system so the number of new signings every year will never be that many - and probably funded in the main from sales of existing players, and with a young but reasonably experienced squad, all will go for decent fees.

I should have wrote "we will continue in struggling to spend big", as we are in agreement. As you say, we will continue to recycle fees we gain through sales.

 

[Sweech]

i put some stadium itk from BEN in the stadium thread for those interested

Is it about shrub and tree placements?

 

[GetSpurredOn]

Agree. Without signing anyone, Winks, Onomah and Pritchard will be like 3 new signings next season. Adding a Striker this window would complete our squad. Then we can look to add one player each transfer window if needed. No more 5 out 7 in rubbish.

Walker-Peters, Carter-Vickers, Veljkovic (maybe?), Ball, Winks, Onomah, Oduwa and Pritchard, all hovering in the periphery of the squad, and very highly rated. We are very close to having a terrific squad, with real strength in depth, and reduce the need for the annual summer overhaul. Transfer budget can be allocated to a real game changer of a signing, as and when required, rather than the same amount being spread across multiple decent players.
It has been said plenty of times before, this was the vision surrounding the training facility, so we got the new stadium with a team worthy of the wait.

Update 6 in the ITK RO
"Expect a quiet January and the same in the Summer. All about growing what we have as a unit."

Get that striker sorted this window, trim out Fazio and Townsend as they are unsettled and expendable. Then concentrate on developing the yong squad we have.

 

[Insomnia]

Walker-Peters, Carter-Vickers, Veljkovic (maybe?), Ball, Winks, Onomah, Oduwa and Pritchard, all hovering in the periphery of the squad, and very highly rated. We are very close to having a terrific squad, with real strength in depth, and reduce the need for the annual summer overhaul. Transfer budget can be allocated to a real game changer of a signing, as and when required, rather than the same amount being spread across multiple decent players.
It has been said plenty of times before, this was the vision surrounding the training facility, so we got the new stadium with a team worthy of the wait.

Update 6 in the ITK RO
"Expect a quiet January and the same in the Summer. All about growing what we have as a unit."

Get that striker sorted this window, trim out Fazio and Townsend as they are unsettled and expendable. Then concentrate on developing the yong squad we have.

make you right brah, def need another striker & our pool of young players is amazing

 

[Hercules]

Walker-Peters, Carter-Vickers, Veljkovic (maybe?), Ball, Winks, Onomah, Oduwa and Pritchard, all hovering in the periphery of the squad, and very highly rated. We are very close to having a terrific squad, with real strength in depth, and reduce the need for the annual summer overhaul. Transfer budget can be allocated to a real game changer of a signing, as and when required, rather than the same amount being spread across multiple decent players.
It has been said plenty of times before, this was the vision surrounding the training facility, so we got the new stadium with a team worthy of the wait.

Update 6 in the ITK RO
"Expect a quiet January and the same in the Summer. All about growing what we have as a unit."

Get that striker sorted this window, trim out Fazio and Townsend as they are unsettled and expendable. Then concentrate on developing the yong squad we have.

January aside I do not expect a quiet summer. We will by then need few quality additions, especially if we make CL. Also clearly heard Poch emphasise that it is about watching players now and doing our homework to acquire them in the summer, allowing them time to gel with the squad.
He has repeated this on a few occasions.

 

[Everlasting Seconds]

January aside I do not expect a quiet summer. We will by then need few quality additions, especially if we make CL. Also clearly heard Poch emphasise that it is about watching players now and doing our homework to acquire them in the summer, allowing them time to gel with the squad.
He has repeated this on a few occasions.

Good assessment, in particular as you point out if CL happens. No doubt the transfer committee, or however it works these days, will be very hungry.

 

[yido_number1]

January aside I do not expect a quiet summer. We will by then need few quality additions, especially if we make CL. Also clearly heard Poch emphasise that it is about watching players now and doing our homework to acquire them in the summer, allowing them time to gel with the squad.
He has repeated this on a few occasions.

If anything I could see us signing more young players of the Alli ilk to come in and develop. I agree with the GSO we have the basis of a very good team lacking a back up striker. I think the fazio and Townsend money will equal what we eventually offer for Berahino and that will be our net spend and probably a good swap of talent for our squad.

 

[Dharmabum]

January aside I do not expect a quiet summer. We will by then need few quality additions, especially if we make CL. Also clearly heard Poch emphasise that it is about watching players now and doing our homework to acquire them in the summer, allowing them time to gel with the squad.
He has repeated this on a few occasions.

If (yes a big if) Spurs get Berahino this window and retain all the present players for next season, why do you "not expect a quiet summer"? Where is the need to add quality (that Spurs can afford)?
Apart from a back up RWF to Lamela (as I expect Andros to leave) win what other position do Spurs need cover and why "plenty" of new signings?

 

[Everlasting Seconds]

If (yes a big if) Spurs get Berahino this window and retain all the present players for next season, why do you "not expect a quiet summer"? Where is the need to add quality (that Spurs can afford)?
Apart from a back up RWF to Lamela (as I expect Andros to leave) win what other position do Spurs need cover and why "plenty" of new signings?

If a CL spot transform from virtual to actual reality, it might spark interest among players who would not be interested without CL. That kind of possibility is something the club will have the urge, and the finances, to exploit.

 

[GetSpurredOn]

January aside I do not expect a quiet summer. We will by then need few quality additions, especially if we make CL. Also clearly heard Poch emphasise that it is about watching players now and doing our homework to acquire them in the summer, allowing them time to gel with the squad.
He has repeated this on a few occasions.

Could go either way. Potentially, with the foundations of a young but very talented squad, at worst case it'll be only very minor adjustments made. Best case, our performances will have been such, that as the team continues to mature and gel, plus with the young players returning from loans to add the necessary depth to cope, we won't be that far off. That's the gist I got from Trix's early ITK. Not much doing, maybe no more than one real quality additiom per window, January and Summer. Let the squad continue to develop as a unit, rather than more wholesale changes.

If anything I could see us signing more young players of the Alli ilk to come in and develop. I agree with the GSO we have the basis of a very good team lacking a back up striker. I think the fazio and Townsend money will equal what we eventually offer for Berahino and that will be our net spend and probably a good swap of talent for our squad.

Agreed, ultimately, if we lose Fazio and Townsend, and get that elusive quality striker we need to cover/compete with Kane, I think for once nobody will be bothered about zero net spend. Already having Carter-Vickers and/or Veljkovic to come and replace Fazio, plus Onomah and Pritchard to step up for Andros, then the only outlay needed would be a striker.
Perhaps, as you say, just add the odd promising youngster from lower leagues. If scouted correctly, see if they can't be this year's Dele Alli. There was talk a while back surrounding Rico Henry, LB from Walsall, then more recently, stories surrounding Jermaine Alexander, CM from Peterborough, and Ademole Lookman, WF from Charlton. Alli's success, and the opportunities he was given to achieve that with us, must be an attractive proposition.

 

[Dharmabum]

If a CL spot transform from virtual to actual reality, it might spark interest among players who would not be interested without CL. That kind of possibility is something the club will have the urge, and the finances, to exploit.

So where would you realistically want to "improve" the Spurs starting XI with player Spurs could afford? RIght now I can't see any weak spot in Spurs' starting XI that need improvements who would come within Spurs' "means". Unless there is another Alli out there...

http://www.espn.co.uk/soccer/story/2785192/new-spurs-striker-not-vital-despite-kane-role-pochettino

LONDON -- Mauricio Pochettino admits Harry Kane is Tottenham's only "proper striker," but believes Spurs can maintain their push for the top four without signing a new forward this month.

Kane, 22, has started every Premier League match so far this season and emerged from the bench to score a late equaliser from the penalty spot in Sunday's 2-2 FA Cup third-round draw with Leicester City, after auxiliary forward Son Heung-Min had struggled to make an impact.

Spurs sold striker Roberto Soldado to Villarreal during preseason and released Emmanuel Adebayor in September, but did not sign a recognised centre-forward during the summer transfer window.

Following several public bids for West Brom's Saido Berahino, who has again been linked with a move to White Hart Lane this month, Pochettino said he "didn't accept at all" the suggestion that Spurs were starting the season with one centre-forward.


But ahead of Wednesday's Premier League visit of Leicester, Pochettino conceded Kane was one of a kind in his squad -- though stressed he would only add the "right" player this month.

"Our people, our supporters need to understand that we're in a project that is different" he said. "It's true that Harry Kane is our only proper striker but we can use different players that can play in a second line and help him, like Son and [Clinton] Njie and [Nacer] Chadli.

"The most important thing is to add the right player and to find this player isn't easy.

"The market is very difficult in winter. Our power is in the changing room. It's about the squad, about the team. It's not about one player more, one player less. If we find the right player, then yes, but if not, it's not a concern for me."

After 20 games of the season, Spurs are being talked about as possible contenders for a maiden Premier League title after taking 10 points from a possible 12 over the festive schedule, more than any other team.

They currently sit six points behind league leaders Arsenal in fourth, but Pochettino refuted that his club are title contenders and sees no reason why they cannot maintain their form over the second half of the season.

"I can understand people saying we need one striker more, because something could happen with our striker [Kane]," he said. "I never said we are a contender for the tittle. I never said that. In public, no. Maybe inside, yes.

"It's important that we keep working hard. If we show after 20 games we're capable of being in the top four, at the end of the season why can't we stay in that place with the same players?"

Kane has been linked with a summer move to Real Madrid but for the second week running, but Pochettino stressed that the 22-year-old is happy to stay at Spurs.

"He feels very good here, he's very happy," he added. "In football, it can happen but Harry Kane is very happy with us. We are really happy and very pleased that Harry's with us."

 

[Hercules]

If (yes a big if) Spurs get Berahino this window and retain all the present players for next season, why do you "not expect a quiet summer"? Where is the need to add quality (that Spurs can afford)?
Apart from a back up RWF to Lamela (as I expect Andros to leave) win what other position do Spurs need cover and why "plenty" of new signings?

I would expect cover for Toby, accepting CV coming through. Would expect another forward creative alternative alongside SB. Not expecting, and neither is it needed a major influx though. As the manager said 'we have to be smart'.

 

[Nigel Spinal]

January aside I do not expect a quiet summer. We will by then need few quality additions, especially if we make CL. Also clearly heard Poch emphasise that it is about watching players now and doing our homework to acquire them in the summer, allowing them time to gel with the squad.
He has repeated this on a few occasions.

I think it will be very hard to upgrade our squad in the summer. This is the best squad we've ever had IMO.

I don't know where we'd start. Vorm and Eriksen are perhaps the next in line for upgrading upon?