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Discussion in 'The January 2016 Transfer Rumours Archive' started by Archibald&Crooks, Nov 4, 2015.

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  1. Spurs1960

    Spurs1960 Well-Known Member

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    He doesn't have a great technique, he is a problem in build up play because his passing isn't good enough so our tactics would have to change. He isn't a Kane replacement, he's been dropped by Liverpool cause he is deemed not good enough. We don't cross the ball so his aerial threat isn't much of an issue, you don't buy players simply because they are good at corners. He cost Villa a League Cup final because of poor finishing and against Arsenal at Wembley he simply gave up.
     
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  2. millsey

    millsey Official SC Numpty

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    The original argument was lukaku was the best striker in the Prem 'right now'. Understand what that means? Doesn't mean he's a better player than Kane or will be or we would rather have him ect ect ect. Jeez
     
  3. Sweech

    Sweech Swiggity Swooty

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    Your argument still doesn't make sense. You haven't stated what metric you're using that says Lukaku is better than Vardy "right now".

    And why are you bringing up Kane?
     
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  4. Joshua

    Joshua Active Member

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    I get that there isn't much ITK about right now but I feel like there's better places to argue about who's better between Lukaku and Vardy.
     
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    sweetness Well-Known Member

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    This debate calls for an experienced pair of eyes from the scouting management community, so let's defer it to Spursking. He'll know what to do.
     
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  6. Oshi

    Oshi Well-Known Member

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    He will just pick the white guy :unsure:
     
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  7. JJetset

    JJetset Lurking in the shadows of threads...

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    Makes me smile now how many people were saying that we shouldn't go in for Chicarito last summer as a back up as MP likes him and he's not good enough for us.
     
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  8. Yid1987

    Yid1987 Active Member

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    His goals could have put us top? Particularly thinking of key games where we've drawn and missed chances & games where Kane looked shattered/going off cost us (e.g. Stoke). If there's one thing we've come to learn it's to trust MP
     
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    voxy28 Well-Known Member

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    Absolutely true. I was hoping we get him but somehow it did not materialise. What happen to this deal? He didn't want to come?
     
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    scat1620 L'espion mal fait

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    In that case AVB was more of an idiot than I had previously imagined. And before seeing @Trix 's post I had AVB down as quite a substantial idiot indeed.
     
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  11. scat1620

    scat1620 L'espion mal fait

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    To be fair, if, as ITK suggests, Berahino was and still is Pochettino's first choice pick for a striker signing, then attribute-wise I don't really see what he offers that Javier Hernandez doesn't, aside from having fewer miles on the clock.
     
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    Berahino- if he is the player Poch wants - should be the first choice. He will be cheaper and easier to get (IMO) as he has been bobbins this season and is closer to the end of his contract than in the summer.

    2nd choice needs to be identified - can't see Benteke being prepared to be backup and he would be very expensive (someone cheaper would be justifiable - unless Kane breaks his leg and we're stuck with Njie - a man who struggles to cope with standing up, let alone leading the line).
     
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    Trix Well-Known Member

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    Personally don't think think they are similar at all.
     
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  14. spurs9

    spurs9 Well-Known Member

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    Just because he is scoring a lot in a different league (where Salomon Kalou only has 2 less) playing upfront in a 2 with a target man doesn't mean we were wrong. I doubt he would have been effective as a lone striker, in place of Kane and I seriously doubt he would have pressed in the manner required of Poch's team. If he didn't play with Kiessling and played as a lone striker, he wouldn't be anywhere near as effective IMO.
     
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  15. DaSpurs

    DaSpurs Well-Known Member

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    Actually, Chicharito and Kiessling haven't played that many games together, and Hernandez has done just fine without his German comrade in the lone striker role.

    Regardless, your point is true that we've no idea how he'd have fared with us in the Prem.
     
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  16. SpursDave88

    SpursDave88 Well-Known Member

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    I would still stand by that view, glad we didn't go for him then and still wouldn't want him now.
     
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  17. DiscoD1882

    DiscoD1882 SC Supporter

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    if we only want a plan A we should be looking for a Kane Clone. If. As many on this forum have suggested Pocky doesnt have a plan B. Then surely we should be looking for something different to Kane?? So he can change a game if it isnt working?
     
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  18. Nigel Spinal

    Nigel Spinal Well-Known Member

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    Plan b is the fluid interchanging of Son, Lamela, Eriksen, Njie etc - like we saw very effectively against Monaco and Qarabag.

    I'd like a Kane-clone. Which is why Dembele and perhaps Afobe interest me most.

    Another wing forward like Berahino, or a non-mobile target man like Benteke, just don't help in either situation.
     
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    Trix Well-Known Member

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    That might be your idea of plan B but that doesn't mean in the long term it is MP's.
     
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  20. Nigel Spinal

    Nigel Spinal Well-Known Member

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    So you think he has ambitions to play a 1980s target man who can only score from crosses and who doesn't press from the front?
     
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