The England Thread

[nailsy]

Even with multiple slow motion replays there's still a fifty fifty split on here over whether that was a penalty.

 

[hughy]

Even with multiple slow motion replays there's still a fifty fifty split on here over whether that was a penalty.

Nah mate clear and obvious.

 

[Yid-ol]

Even with multiple slow motion replays there's still a fifty fifty split on here over whether that was a penalty.

Clear and obvious then


Damn you hughy!

 

[TEESSIDE1]

Yes of course it is lol

Fucks sake

It was soft but still a pen. Fortunately it’s a friendly and there’s no expectation for England to turn up at the WC... so no hard feelings.

 

[Sandros Shiny Head]

If Southgate decides this formation is the right one with 2 up front then he's managed to find the only way to nullify all of Kane's best attributes, pretty impressive tbh

 

[Phomesy]

Jose will be spewing Young’s played the full 95

 

[nedley]

Penalty? For that?

You folk have gone fucking soft.

 

[TEESSIDE1]

Penalty? For that?

You folk have gone fucking soft.

Assault? lol

 

[newbie]

Yeah he didn't have control of the ball, was never a pen.

At first I thought pen, now not so sure he had lost the ball.

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

Once he'd brought Henderson and Lallana on we offered virtually no threat going forwards but boy were we strong going sideways.

 

[mark87]

Missed the game. How did we play? Fair result?

 

[thebenjamin]

So we've got to actually sacrifice this world cup to decide that VAR is a disaster. Its a going to be a comedy of epic proportions with every game descending into total farce but at least by the end of it VAR will done.

Unless of course someone at fifa has shares in the technology in which case it will become mandatory for all football

 

[Shadydan]

It was soft but still a pen. Fortunately it’s a friendly and there’s no expectation for England for turn up at the WC... so no hard feelings.

In my mind a foul needs to be given if the advantage has been taken away from the attacker unfairly

I'm struggling to see what advantage he had seeing as he was on his way down anyway

 

[MattyP]

Goal line technology, fantastic innovation to the game. Instant, definitive.

VAR, fucking crap.

 

['O Zio]

Even with multiple slow motion replays there's still a fifty fifty split on here over whether that was a penalty.

Only because 50% of people can't put their bias aside and admit that it was quite clearly a penalty

 

[riggi]

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

Fair result?

I don't think so, Italy never really posed much threat and after a slightly shaky start we got a grip and could have scored two or three goals. It was actually decent to watch.

Then horseface introduced Lallana and Henderson, we went sideways and offered little up front, Italy got their penalty and for the last 10 minutes looked like they were more interested in winning it although not really creating much.

 

[Phomesy]

Only because 50% of people can't put their bias aside and admit that it was quite clearly a penalty

But there's certinaly an element of doubt about it which makes the Ref's initial decision not a "clear and obvious error" which is the criteria under which a decision is supposed to be overturned by VAR.

Drives me nuts. The only time I've seen them get this right is the first time when that ref looked at Willian get clipped in the Norwich game and didn't overturn his initial decision of play on. That ref got all sorts of shit for that but he was right - there was enough doubt to suggest that Willian was already going down and looking for the pen and and the clip was incidental. If the ref had given a pen VAR wouldn't change that decision. And Vice Versa.

It shouldn't be hard to understand "clear and obvious error" but nobody seems to get it right.

 

[TEESSIDE1]

In my mind a foul needs to be given if the advantage has been taken away from the attacker unfairly

I'm struggling to see what advantage he had seeing as he was on his way down anyway

It’s a tough one and hard to say really where the line should be drawn. How do you distinguish between:

Tarkowski standing on Chiesa’s foot, Van D kicking Lamela, a striker taking a heavy touch and losing control but gets wiped out by the keeper.

We always see spates of incidents... there’s the whole diving saga, was it a dive or did he go down under his own momentum, then there’s players running in the box during a penalty or how about player A cleanly gets the ball from player B but his other leg wipes him out resulting in a yellow or even a red.

VAR should purely be used for goal line technology and off the ball incidents. Nit picking over penalties and offsides is what’s ruining the game.

 

[mark87]

I don't think so, Italy never really posed much threat and after a slightly shaky start we got a grip and could have scored two or three goals. It was actually decent to watch.

Then horseface introduced Lallana and Henderson, we went sideways and offered little up front, Italy got their penalty and for the last 10 minutes looked like they were more interested in winning it although not really creating much.

Think of it this way, if wilshere had not have been injured then my guess he would have been brought on instead.