The Harry Effect

[DC_Boy]

Yanno

Personally, I don't believe that DA was a genuine ITK. That's my personal opinion. I may be wrong though. But it's hardly debatable that DA was almost totally wrong about Keane and Berbatov.

He wasn't the only one from memory either - though maybe Dan was the Pied Piper in it all

 

[liberty]

If we lose to Hull tonight, Harry has fucked up big time I'm afraid and I'll want to see him go at the end of the season if we don't improve our league performances and don't win the CC.

 

[Bobishism]

hows harrys season comparing to ramos' season now?

 

[AngerManagement]

hows harrys season comparing to ramos' season now?

Difficult to compare what with Ramos having a setted pairing of KEane and Berbatov upfront last year.

The it could also be argued that once the heads of those players were turned Ramos had a more difficult task of motivating players who had little/no interest in playing for the club any further. (also that Redknapp has since had the team with longer time to get over the loss of those players)

At the end of the day too many variables have changed from the time Ramos took over until the Time Harry did (up to now) and although the situations seem similar in as far as both took other teams doing poorly at the start of a season, I feel things have changed too much to directly compare and the only question that matters (and even that probably doesn't really) is where would we be now had we given Ramos more time as opposed to making the changes we did and find ourselves where we are.

That is my opinion anyway Brother Mouzone (Didn't Spursking once suggest we sign him and Omar in a double swoop?)

 

[miles_64]

yanno

good researching -

so now where that does that leave that particular piece of ITK

correct and then it was the 3 amigos blocking JR?

or incorrect?

or some other explanation

I also seem to recall we were told repeatedly last summer that Keane was going nowhere and that he was happy here, while simultaneously Robbie was planning his escape to the land of his childhood dreams

I'm not doing the research to find out exactly who said what and when, it'll be counter productive anyway - but I'm sure those who got into heated debates about it (not being ITK I kept out of it) will remember it well

DC, when are you going to buy yourself a full-stop key...?
:wink:

 

[DC_Boy]

DC, when are you going to buy yourself a full-stop key...?
:wink:

full stops are for conformists - i'm a grammar rebel

ok I'm lazy and prefer for full stops too

seriously, sorry miles if my lack of grammar impairs your reading enjoyment - it is bad I know - but I'm a slow typist with not much time to type in usually, so summat has to give

but I will try to improve

no promises tho ...

 

[DC_Boy]

loved Harry's dig at all the amateur 'experts' who slagged him off for his shaktar team

especially nice for the amateur experts like me and others who backed him :smile:

 

[duffman22]

loved Harry's dig at all the amateur 'experts' who slagged him off for his shaktar team

especially nice for the amateur experts like me and others who backed him :smile:

Wow good for you. :-|

In hindsight it turned out well for us, but without sounding negative, we didn't look like a team full of life tonight.

I'm pleased we won but honestly mate quit the 'superior knowledge' rubbish.

 

[DC_Boy]

Wow good for you. :-|

In hindsight it turned out well for us, but without sounding negative, we didn't look like a team full of life tonight.

I'm pleased we won but honestly mate quit the 'superior knowledge' rubbish.

why should i? long experience and study of the game does give me a better insight than many who post on here

it's nothing to do with hindsight - I was saying it long and loud for day after day (as were others)

 

[SpurSince57]

Yanno

Personally, I don't believe that DA was a genuine ITK. That's my personal opinion. I may be wrong though. But it's hardly debatable that DA was almost totally wrong about Keane and Berbatov.

Dear oh dear. You keep spouting on about this, but the identity of Dan's source is pretty much an open secret. You're entitled to your opinion, of course, but then those of us privy to these matters are entitled to feel your opinion counts for jack shit in this instance.

We don't know the nature of the 'psychological profiling' on Diarra, but you need neither a degree in psychology nor to have insider info to make a reasonably informed guess that the bloke's a bit of a twat, to put it mildly. His behaviour at Arsenal should tell you a good deal, as should his announcement on joining Pompey that he was only waiting for a 'big club'—and anyone believing that Spurs met his criteria is delusional. The 'psychological profiling' was a fancy way of saying it was a near-certainty he'd fuck off after five minutes, rather like a certain Bulgarian.

And again, for about the bazillionth time, Dan said that we named a price for Berbatov and Keane.

Of course, Dan's source, although very high up, wasn't privy to everything (by his own admission, he was totally baffled by various tactical decisions). Dan's hero-worship of Ramos may also have coloured his info somewhat, although he's always been careful to distinguish personal opinion and educated guesses from what he's been told.

But essentially, you're making the very basic mistake of believing that unless ITK is 100% correct, it's worthless.

 

[duffman22]

why should i? long experience and study of the game does give me a better insight than many who post on here

it's nothing to do with hindsight - I was saying it long and loud for day after day (as were others)

There's no way of proving resting players won us that game. It may have done, but we've put in a lot of great performances (better than tonights) on Sundays after Thursday night games so I remain to be totally convinced. Thats not what bothers me anyway, its the way you come on here patting yourself on the back.

'Better insight'? I appreciate you've supported Spurs longer than me but its utterly ridiculous to suggest that makes your opinion superior. I've been a season ticket holder for 8 years and have been to about 75% of away games this year. So what? My Grandad has been watching football for 70 years and he comes out with a lot of rubbish.

 

[southlondonyiddo]

I must congratulate Harry for identifying his best 442 formation and sticking with it

 

[DC_Boy]

26 from 18 is 1.44 ppg, that's 55 over the season which is typical tottenham in the PL - indeed a bit better than average AFAIK

 

[SpurSince57]

Better than a poke in the eye with a burnt stick, as they say—and certainly a fuck of a sight better than the 1.17 PPG we achieved under Ramos.

 

[Bill_Oddie]

loved Harry's dig at all the amateur 'experts' who slagged him off for his shaktar team

especially nice for the amateur experts like me and others who backed him :smile:

DC, this is the third thread you've posted EXACTLY that post in. That's spam. And it's smug spam at that. Please cease and desist from doing it again.

26 from 18 is 1.44 ppg, that's 55 over the season which is typical tottenham in the PL - indeed a bit better than average AFAIK

'A bit better than average' could be BAR's middle name.

That isn't a dig by the way. After our start, 'a bit better than average' was exactly what we needed.

 

[DC_Boy]

re whether long support gives a better opinion - it doesn't per se

but generally you will find that people who have followed a subject intesively for nearly 50 years have a better knowledge than people who have had a mild interest say for 6 months

much depends of course on the relative quality of the intellect, eyesight, judgmental abilities, emotional stability of the respective observers

I never ask people to judge me on my length of service rather the quality of my posts (if they want to judge me at all of course)

I am confident the quality of my posts are improved overall by my long support and study of spurs, other people are free to differ

if someone thinks my opinions are rubbish, fine

if they can demonstrate why, that's when I get impressed and sometimes even change them in the face of superior insight

 

[Michey]

re whether long support gives a better opinion - it doesn't per se

but generally you will find that people who have followed a subject intesively for nearly 50 years have a better knowledge than people who have had a mild interest say for 6 months

much depends of course on the relative quality of the intellect, eyesight, judgmental abilities, emotional stability of the respective observers

I never ask people to judge me on my length of service rather the quality of my posts (if they want to judge me at all of course)

I am confident the quality of my posts are improved overall by my long support and study of spurs, other people are free to differ

if someone thinks my opinions are rubbish, fine

if they can demonstrate why, that's when I get impressed and sometimes even change them in the face of superior insight

Yeah sure....really fine .........and then put them on ignore. My god, you amazingly took it to the next level. Impressive....

 

[Coyboy]

DC, this is the third thread you've posted EXACTLY that post in. That's spam. And it's smug spam at that. Please cease and desist from doing it again.

He always does it. I don't know if he is looking for recognition or just plain ass kissing.