The ousting of Daniel (COYS)

[aussie spur]

I don't think Munn and Postecoglou have worked together? P was at Brisbane and then a different Melbourne club to Munn. They have probably met before, but not worked together.

 

[WiganSpur]

I am not a Levy apologist, but I don't think it's an excuse - I think we will have a limited budget this summer. And that may be why we see more ambitious managers shy away from the job.

There is absolutely no reason why we can't spend at least £100m on a keeper and CB before we sell anyone, regardless of the Porro and Kulu situations. If you're going to make that argument, then my next point would be that we spent nothing in January, spent only £18m on Bentancur the January before that, and spent £100m net on players in the summer despite being in the CL.

Whether Kane goes or not, we'll need a keeper and CB. Best way for us to play it is to pump money in for those two regardless, then see who we can sell to generate funds for other positions of need.

 

[dontcallme]

Looking at the net spend of clubs in the Prem right now, I can't believe we don't have the means to a reasonable transfer budget.

Our net spend over the last 4 seasons has been around £100m a year. I see no reason why our budget should disappear now.

The problem we have, is that we need around 6 first team squad players. Trying to get players of the quality we want for £20m each is a big ask.

So we'll need to sell, for the squad places as well as the funds.

 

[WiganSpur]

Looking at the net spend of clubs in the Prem right now, I can't believe we don't have the means to a reasonable transfer budget.

Our net spend over the last 4 seasons has been around £100m a year. I see no reason why our budget should disappear now.

The problem we have, is that we need around 6 first team squad players. Trying to get players of the quality we want for £20m each is a big ask.

So we'll need to sell, for the squad places as well as the funds.

Since we're out of Europe I'm not convinced we need 6 players imo. A goalkeeper, centre back at a minimum, and probably a decent forward to replace the departing Danjuma and Lucas. If we get the goalkeeper and centre back right we're looking like a decent side.

 

[Bluto Blutarsky]

There is absolutely no reason why we can't spend at least £100m on a keeper and CB before we sell anyone, regardless of the Porro and Kulu situations. If you're going to make that argument, then my next point would be that we spent nothing in January, spent only £18m on Bentancur the January before that, and spent £100m net on players in the summer despite being in the CL.

Whether Kane goes or not, we'll need a keeper and CB. Best way for us to play it is to pump money in for those two regardless, then see who we can sell to generate funds for other positions of need.

I think the financial issue is more fundamental.

1. Levy has pushed the boat out a bit in these last few years - I think he has pushed it past his personal comfort level, and he is less likely to continue to spend those amounts.

2. We have a good idea that we have exceeded the club's internal budget - because Levy went to Lewis last year to get £150M cash injection into the club. We used £100M, and my understanding is we will still be able to use £50M this summer - despite the deadlines talked about last year.

3. To compound the problem for Levy, I think he was willing to take more risk to continue to get CL football, and the revenue that comes from that - we failed. That alone will have a significant impact on the transfer budget - even before considering that we were spending more than Levy wanted even with CL.

4. It's not Levy's money. I actually think that is Levy were the full owner of the club, he probably would make additional investment to get the club back on track - after all , its his reputation at stake here, not Lewis'. But, I can't see Levy going back to Lewis and asking for more money, after last summer - given that we expect revenues to drop significantly in the upcoming season. Its a combination of already asking last year, poor results from that investment, and lower revenues.

I am expecting to see a net spend of about £50M this summer - which means we are going to have to do an excellent job selling players, not simply cancelling contracts.

And yes, we still have to commit to Kulu - and I am not certain that we will. Porro is an obligation - so the remainder of his fee will be part of our transfer budget this summer.

And, frankly, if we are embarking on a new project, we will have to consider any serious bids for Kane and/or Son - as a way of boosting the funds available to rebuild. Maybe we can tempt RM into Richarlison instead - but we are going to need to sell someone for decent money.

 

[dontcallme]

Since we're out of Europe I'm not convinced we need 6 players imo. A goalkeeper, centre back at a minimum, and probably a decent forward to replace the departing Danjuma and Lucas. If we get the goalkeeper and centre back right we're looking like a decent side.

Depends on what we're aiming for. A goalkeeper, left back, at least one centre back and with Bentancur injured at least one midfielder. Then either a playmaker or forward depending on what formation we're going with.

 

[Stamford]

I am not a Levy apologist, but I don't think it's an excuse - I think we will have a limited budget this summer. And that may be why we see more ambitious managers shy away from the job.

The budget should be big. Arsenal were out of Europe and spent a huge amount so we have no excuse. We've spent under our means for years and we now have a full stadium and all the events we're told make a lot of money.

 

[Bluto Blutarsky]

The budget should be big. Arsenal were out of Europe and spent a huge amount so we have no excuse. We've spent under our means for years and we now have a full stadium and all the events we're told make a lot of money.

Why should it be "big"? And, how are you defining "big"?

 

[WiganSpur]

Depends on what we're aiming for. A goalkeeper, left back, at least one centre back and with Bentancur injured at least one midfielder. Then either a playmaker or forward depending on what formation we're going with.

We are constrained by the squad numbers at the moment. I agree in an ideal world that we'd bring in a midfield player. But considering that we're not in Europe, I think that'd mean we'd want to move on the likes of PEH first. We don't need 5 CMs anymore. It really depends on who we can get rid of.

It's possible imo that Ange will be a fan of Bryan Gil, so perhaps he could provide that forward depth allowing us to focus on a midfielder, or another defender.

Really don't see a way we can bring in more than a keeper and CB without letting 3-4 minimum go.

 

[SirNiNyHotspur]

Why should it be "big"? And, how are you defining "big"?

Big should be get the manager the players he actually wants, be it 20m or 50m. Enough of the cost cutting Levy’s 2nd/3rd choice or no manager will ever win anything with us.

We clearly need a CB and goalie, like we have done a few years, only 5 teams worse defense than us last season. Also always need to upgrade and push on on what we have elsewhere, in particular where the manager feels needs improvement, we’ve seen what happens when you sit on your ass.

Lowest net spenders in entire league best part of 20 years, stadium bringing us record income up on top off all financial tables, 400m flexibility in FFP more than anyone else, we can spend as much as Joes ambition alllows us, no more last minute loanees that fall on our lap.

Not only that it should be football men deciding which players, Levy has meddled enough. Time to prioritize the team or piss off. Personally don’t care if it Ange or Nagelsmann, pointless unless you support the manager and show ambition, that matters much more.

 

[Stamford]

Why should it be "big"? And, how are you defining "big"?

Because we have the turnover and revenue of a big club. It should match what arsenal spent when they had a season out of Europe which I think was 150m. I don't see any reason why it wouldn't be when our rival who had no CL football for years could do it.

 

[dontcallme]

We are constrained by the squad numbers at the moment. I agree in an ideal world that we'd bring in a midfield player. But considering that we're not in Europe, I think that'd mean we'd want to move on the likes of PEH first. We don't need 5 CMs anymore. It really depends on who we can get rid of.

It's possible imo that Ange will be a fan of Bryan Gil, so perhaps he could provide that forward depth allowing us to focus on a midfielder, or another defender.

Really don't see a way we can bring in more than a keeper and CB without letting 3-4 minimum go.

We certainly need to let a few go.

But I believe we're weak in numerous areas. If we don't bring in at least 4 quality players, we're going to struggle, even without Europe.

If we'd built our team correctly, we could be looking to buy 1-2 first team squad players a season and justify spending more on an individual.

Instead, we need to spread the costs over several players.

If a miracle happened and player like Jude Bellingham wanted to come to us and he'd cost around £80m, we'd likely have to turn it down as we have too many other areas that need improvement.

This is the problem we're facing with funds. We are spending and I believe we will again. But poor purchases over a long period has created a weak first team and squad.

 

[mil1lion]

Last years spending was good between January and the summer window. The trouble is we fell so far behind we need another summer like it to complete the squad. Get it right this summer and then after we can come back down to spending less. We need to complete the rebuild particularly in defence and then focus on unearthing young potential at s bargain. Keep the youth filtering through and then should only need the odd big money signing from time to time.

 

[Bing]

There is absolutely no reason why we can't spend at least £100m on a keeper and CB before we sell anyone, regardless of the Porro and Kulu situations. If you're going to make that argument, then my next point would be that we spent nothing in January, spent only £18m on Bentancur the January before that, and spent £100m net on players in the summer despite being in the CL.

Whether Kane goes or not, we'll need a keeper and CB. Best way for us to play it is to pump money in for those two regardless, then see who we can sell to generate funds for other positions of need.

I think we desperately need more creativity in midfield as well....especially to play the way AP plays.. I really want Maddison. For me a new GK, new CB and new CAM are must gets regardless of sales.

£35m Raya, £40m Laporte, £50m Maddion - £125m.

That might be asking too much. Fair enough, but if we are not willing to invest big we will struggle....we are so far behind the likes of City and Goons right now. Chavs, United and Newcastle will spend big to get what they need. Liverpool will be back.

We have already lost ground - if we don't spend big in summer we will end up in a chicken race with Brighton, Brentford, Villa and West Ham for the conference league spot. The league is so so competitive now.

 

[sundanceyid10]

Has managed to knock my enthusiasm for the club, which is probably the first time its happened in a long time of supporting the club. Starting to feel helpless with him in charge of the football side.

Same for me. It been over for Levy for a while, clear as day he won’t ever get things done. If he can’t manage it with a generational player like Kane he never will.

 

[g_harry]

Looking at the net spend of clubs in the Prem right now, I can't believe we don't have the means to a reasonable transfer budget.

Our net spend over the last 4 seasons has been around £100m a year. I see no reason why our budget should disappear now.

The problem we have, is that we need around 6 first team squad players. Trying to get players of the quality we want for £20m each is a big ask.

So we'll need to sell, for the squad places as well as the funds.

Could possibly get away with less first teamers now with proper GK LCB & AM and add proper back ups to Bentancur, Son, Kulusevski & AM.

There alot of players to shift which will be a big problem as Levy will not just clear for sake of clearing.

Lloris 5m (Raya35m)
Emerson
Lenglet (LCB 25m)
Romero
Udogie
Bentancur
Bissouma
Kulusevski
(Madison 50m)
Son
Kane 100m(Richarlison)

Reserve

Austin
Spence
Porro
LCB (10m)
Tanganga
Dier
Sessegegnon
Skipp
Wardprowse (40m)
Hojberg
Sarr
(Barnes 30m)
Gil (Hatate 15m)
(Jota 20m)
Parrot/Scarlett

Deadwood
Sanchez 10m, Davies 5m, Regulion 20m, Winks 5m, Ndombele 20m, Lo Celso 20m, Perisic 5m, Rodon 10m,

Overall Net +25m

 

[thebenjamin]

I think we desperately need more creativity in midfield as well....especially to play the way AP plays.. I really want Maddison. For me a new GK, new CB and new CAM are must gets regardless of sales.

£35m Raya, £40m Laporte, £50m Maddion - £125m.

That might be asking too much. Fair enough, but if we are not willing to invest big we will struggle....we are so far behind the likes of City and Goons right now. Chavs, United and Newcastle will spend big to get what they need. Liverpool will be back.

We have already lost ground - if we don't spend big in summer we will end up in a chicken race with Brighton, Brentford, Villa and West Ham for the conference league spot. The league is so so competitive now.

We also desperately need someone who can commit players and beat them with skill, a top ball carrier to operate in tight spaces. Our squad is almost completely devoid of anyone who can beat a man.

 

[dontcallme]

Could possibly get away with less first teamers now with proper GK LCB & AM and add proper back ups to Bentancur, Son, Kulusevski & AM.

There alot of players to shift which will be a big problem as Levy will not just clear for sake of clearing.

Lloris 5m (Raya35m)
Emerson
Lenglet (LCB 25m)
Romero
Udogie
Bentancur
Bissouma
Kulusevski
(Madison 50m)
Son
Kane 100m(Richarlison)

Reserve

Austin
Spence
Porro
LCB (10m)
Tanganga
Dier
Sessegegnon
Skipp
Wardprowse (40m)
Hojberg
Sarr
(Barnes 30m)
Gil (Hatate 15m)
(Jota 20m)
Parrot/Scarlett

Deadwood
Sanchez 10m, Davies 5m, Regulion 20m, Winks 5m, Ndombele 20m, Lo Celso 20m, Perisic 5m, Rodon 10m,

Overall Net +25m

Lloris and Perisic will likely be free transfers.

I’d shocked if any club is willing to pay Ndombele’s salary, let alone get a transfer fee.

We’re going to have trouble selling and it’s not just on Levy asking too much.

 

[Dougal]

Good appointment. Still needs to go. As far as I’m concerned he had his last chance a good few times. Enough is enough. Give Postecoglou the board and backing he needs to do his job. Levy will always be Levy and will do damage eventually.

 

[Nebby]

Lloris and Perisic will likely be free transfers.

I’d shocked if any club is willing to pay Ndombele’s salary, let alone get a transfer fee.

We’re going to have trouble selling and it’s not just on Levy asking too much.

Indeed. A player is an asset and therefore cannot be undervalued.