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I stopped reading at that point.Danny Rose, personally I think one of our better players this season
I stopped reading at that point.Danny Rose, personally I think one of our better players this season
Tim is not perfect and where he perhaps falls down the most is his media skills, and it saddens me because of this performance and this performance alone it has cost him his job.
Superb article. I would certainly keep Tim S for another year. I just don't understand the criticism of TS's media persona. Give me an honest man with a heart than all those other media manipulators. Tim's record in winning games is better than AVB, Martin Jol and HR. Some of the criticism of TS from people on this site borders on the plain nasty. These are probably the kind of people like those PSG fans (?) who pelted the Chelsea disabled fans during the Champions league game last week. Lets support a manager who has real feelings for our club.
Superb article. I would certainly keep Tim S for another year. I just don't understand the criticism of TS's media persona. Give me an honest man with a heart than all those other media manipulators. Tim's record in winning games is better than AVB, Martin Jol and HR. Some of the criticism of TS from people on this site borders on the plain nasty. These are probably the kind of people like those PSG fans (?) who pelted the Chelsea disabled fans during the Champions league game last week. Lets support a manager who has real feelings for our club.
in turmoil? By what standard? We were, from memory, only 4 points off 4th place and in all the cup competitions. Yes, we had suffered some tonkings (no more than we've suffered (and against much the same teams) since TS has taken charge) but, if we are basing it on 'evidence' (which seems to be a pro-TS mantra!) then under no circumstances could it be classed as 'turmoil'. By turmoil, I meant a continuous change in the playing staff and the fact that we have gone through quite a few managers over the last 10 years or so.
sorry but where is the evidence for this sweeping statement? All players will strive to win the top competitions and earn the biggest salary: we can't do either at the moment, hence our club being a so-called 'stepping stone'.
I have a love for sweeping statements and I it is a problem I know. I don’t like using stats or evidence as it involves me doing some sort of research and hard work. As for the statement, King stayed at Spurs all his life Campbell didn’t, not always true I know, but generally I would have thought players who have come up through the youth system are more likely to have some loyalty, just a reasoned assumption. Not true in all cases.
He has brought one youngster through. Personally I rate Bentalab but believe he has been played too much when other players should have been played but that's a debate where there will never be a right/wrong answer.
Agree he has been overplayed, but the talent is there and Tim brought him through when it would have been easy to throw Capoue in there, I know this is debatable and possibly a matter of ego on Sherwood’s side
well done for taking ONE result and using it as a yardstick for everything. Let's not forget that we were playing the worst team in the league (yes, I realise we can only play those placed in front of us) so to use that solitary game as an example of players playng for him, etc.
Ok, well this one is easy, I was not trying to show one result and performance as the marker for the whole tenure of Sherwood. Just saying that it does not look like a team who has lost faith with their manager.
Individual players are at fault - jesus, how many mistakes have they made this season?!
Alot!
However, those mistakes haven't all been under TS's tenure so does AVB get given slack for some of these? As for tactics, of course they have an impact - high defensive line anyone? As does playing the right personnel for the right opponents and, indeed, scouting your opponents instead of saying that it wouldn't show you something you didn't already know.
Again not saying he is a master tactician, but I am willing to bet he knows more than fans and the media, though I admit sometimes the highline seemed a bit suicidal. On the positive side, I like his subs.
fans are too quick to slate players, particularly young ones. Nice to know you don't do that(!) - - I suppose Falque and Coulibally don't count.
Not slagging off Falque and Coulibally, just at the time Kane was in the spotlight and these players were not, and the people commenting on them clearly did not watch Spurs youth games and just judged them off a FM reputation. For all I know they could both be ready for the spurs team next season.
As for Danny Rose, seriously? He has not been one of our better players this season.
Yes he has! The downturn in Spurs form under AVB coincided with the injury to Rose, again not been perfect but in my eyes been decent. Nowhere near the disgrace that some people seem to see him as.
people who slate Bentalab because he's Sherwood's fav are wrong. People who believe Bentalab shouldn't have played in all the games because they believe there may be more suitable players are not wrong - they have an opinion.
Think that was answered in my other comment
As for Adebayor, I questioned this with another poster yesterday: how much of his 'resurgence' is down to TS's man-management and how much to Ade wanting to put one over AVB? And Ade has produced these kind of spells before. But, credit TS, he has him playing well.
Ha, could be true, but it’s worked whatever the angle, but it is easy to single out TS faults and not his successes.
personally, I don't want him out because of his media performance; I want him out because I don't feel he has the skills/knowledge/experience at this time to take the club forward.
Then I am guessing you were against him from the start, in which case you clearly do not trust Daniel Levy’s choice of manager, which in turn opens a new kettle of fish.
His media performances merely reinforce that (comparing his situation to that of Guardiola; his comments about not coming down from the stands in the Liverpool game because it would have had no effect; the seemingly constant stroking of his own ego (I'm my own man; I do it my way, etc.).
Again maybe true, but Ferguson and Redknapp have massive ego’s as well, he just gets questioned about everything he does and answers with his heart instead of his head. Again a media thing, because who really cares where our manager sits. The fact that he is willing to try something different is in itself a positive in my eyes.
Ok here you go.... apologise if the formatting is a bit poor
Ok here you go.... apologise if the formatting is a bit poor
As a postscript I would love to have seen the comments (if SC was around then) of some people on this site to the first few months of the great, great Bill Nick.
No, have to disagree. You can't make comparisons between those who physically assaults someone with verbal nastiness; the two are incomparable.Avonspurs " That's a bit out of line - comparing some verbal criticism with actual physical confrontation".
Verbal criticism and plain nastiness are different. Some of the comments I see on this website are both cowardly and ignorant as are the PSG minority supporters as mentioned.
He doesn't embarrass me in the slightest. I watch football. The match. Not football. The managerI don't wish to come over all insensitive and such, but he doesn't have to answer every single question he's asked by the media. He's embarrassing himself and most fans every time he opens his mouth.
Or maybe he is just saying. Get off the mangers back and give him a fucking chance??I wish you'd put this at the beginning, as I would have known not to bother reading the rest. Just another misplaced, sanctimonious rant masquerading as insight.
Could have saved a lot of words by just typing 'I saw the sad man on the telly looking sad and you lot are all big stupid doo doo heads for making him have a boo boo"
@avonspurs you rated that funny the second I posted it!
I cannot see how anyone can argue to keep Tim the man was inconsistent and confusing in everything that he did. I could not make sense of the tactics he was trying to play. Tim will never make a good manager he does not have the right type of character to ever succeed. The reason any of you argue that Tim should stay is because he is English.
AVB may have seemed to have only one game plan but least he had some idea of how he would like to play a specific tactic, it may not have worked but at least he was clear in the way he wanted the Team to play.
Before anyone says 4-5-1 is a useless tactic it is not a tactic it is a formation. Tactics are the way the team is set up and instructed to play. Tim just slots people into positions and gives no real instructions.