daryl hannah
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Sessegnon & Gomes.
I'm already underwhelmed and the transfer forums haven't even opened.
I'm already underwhelmed and the transfer forums haven't even opened.
The Spurs Transfer Wishlist & Scouting Thread
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MOLLON LAVEH
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Exactly.
I have not watched him week in - week out, but seen enough of him to have my doubts or, at the very least, to be less enthusiastic than others about signing him.
He's quite athletic & has more growth to come both physically & mentally. He'll most likely fill out some more which bodes well for him.
But, usually by his age, players have developed a certain level of technical proficiency given that they have already spent so many hours on the practice field. This is the part of his ability that concerns me.
Yes he can develop a greater understanding of the tactical aspects of the game through better coaching.
Yes he can develop a stronger mentality to deal with the pressures of the game.
But it is very rare for them to greatly improve their skills on the ball.
He tends to beat players through his athleticism rather than using his technical skills
Watch him. A lot of his game is based on kick & run.
Granted many players have made a career out of that.
I just don't think he's as fabulous as many here think.
But the question remains, is he suitable to Poch's playing out from the back & at what price?
heelspurs
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But zero technique and no defensive instincts which was shown in the Championship and flashed in neon in the PL. How high exactly is the ceiling for this type of player?
doctor stefan Freud
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Oh, there’s so much further we can fall yet
Sessegnon x 2, AWB, Chilwell, Grealish and an english keeper on a free.
Roughly would be able to pay for that lot with the predicted outs: Janssen, GKN, Lamela, Trippier, Aurier, Toby, Vorm, Dembele money, CCV, Onomah, Edwards = net zero.
IF we have additional money to spend plonk it all on Ndombele
https://www.theguardian.com/football/who-scored-blog/2019/apr/25/premier-league-young-players-season
Roughly would be able to pay for that lot with the predicted outs: Janssen, GKN, Lamela, Trippier, Aurier, Toby, Vorm, Dembele money, CCV, Onomah, Edwards = net zero.
IF we have additional money to spend plonk it all on Ndombele
https://www.theguardian.com/football/who-scored-blog/2019/apr/25/premier-league-young-players-season
I still think Edwards and CCV have future at spurs, so does Aurier. Reckon toby will sign the deal too.
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He was missing the evil eye (watch it) so I popped it on there to complete the set
EQP
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He's 19 years old with 71 appearances ( 20goals/ 9 assists) in the Championship and 32 appearances in the PL (2 goals/ 6 assists), he's bound to have flaws and things he needs to improve on. I'm advocating for him to join our team, where our coaches excel at developing young talent. How many 19 years old can you name who currently have as much experiences as him, put up the same numbers as him and are somewhat the finished article?
can't see Aurier at the club next season.
would be fine with CCV and Edwards staying
Really not sure what to make of Toby - the itk seems to say Poch wants him gone in the summer but his play and their body language doesn't suggest any issues....hard to tell
Everlasting Seconds
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On current form you shouldn't drink, smoke, vape and post.
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Fair enough. I read a fair bit of scouting reports, I've watched him play and I then I make an continually evolving assumption based on those factors. It's not an exact science but my belief that his potential to be a good to great player is steeped in the fact that he
* Broke into the Fulham team at 16
* He has 71 appearances ( 20goals/ 9 assists) in the Championship and 32 appearances in the PL (2 goals/ 6 assists)
* He's shown marked improvement/ has developed parts of his game in each season he's played
* He's doing better than some of those in his current age group
* If he were to join Spurs, where the environment fosters growth and development, he would undoubtedly get even better.
With all that said, he could get a career-ending injury, make the move to a team that isn't interested in developing him further, make bad personal decisions and this would nullify any of my "assessments" of what kind of player I thought he would turn out to be.
Zaniolo would be a dream, but we have no chance unfortunately
If he goes to Juve this summer, however, we should be after Bernardeschi or Chiesa. Chiesa was tipped to go to Juve, but they won't sign him if they get Zaniolo, and Zaniolo will almost certainly take the place of Bernardeschi.
2 players who would easily improve our first team after settling.
If he goes to Juve this summer, however, we should be after Bernardeschi or Chiesa. Chiesa was tipped to go to Juve, but they won't sign him if they get Zaniolo, and Zaniolo will almost certainly take the place of Bernardeschi.
2 players who would easily improve our first team after settling.
Andre Gomes looks decent at Everton, not sure hes a massive improvement on what we have though, or whether he really has the potential to be. I'm totally fine with us not shopping in the top tier market of Ndombele and that lot, but if we're dipping down a level i'd prefer it were for a younger player.
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The same people writing off Sessegnon at 18 years old are desperate for us to sign Wan-Bissaka who nobody in this forum had even heard of when he was 18. Dan James is 21 and has only just started to establish himself in the same league that Sessegnon tore up as a 17 year old. Grealish is only just fulfilling his potential at 23 but is another that many want us to sign. For the record I would love us to sign all 4 but dismissing an 18 year old with 6 assists and 2 goals in the toughest league in the world for a woeful team is just bizarre.
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Chiesa is fine but I don't really see what he brings that isn't already covered in the team. The thing with Zaniolo is that he can cover CM and AM, and I believe looking at that type of a player would be smart. Somebody with the traits of Grealish, but not actually Grealish. Chiesa, I wouldn't put him at CM in a top 4 battle or for a CL team, and I think that is important. We have to realise where we are at as a club. We have a run in the top 4 and CL behind us, and we have to sign players who by some stretch of the imagination can fit a club with those achievements.
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The comparisons to the Championship players I can understand but comparing him to Wan Bissaka is silly imo. One has been fantastic and widely recognised as the best RB in the prem this season and the other had good stats in the Championship but question marks over his overall game and then has failed to perform in the prem.
The love in for Sess is due to him being young, English and his goal tally last season. His overall game is massively lacking and he would be nowhere near our first team if we signed him. For the price he would cost id rather spend on a top CM or Wan Bissaka.
If we sign Sess then I will support him and hope Poch turns him into a monster.
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19 years old and he isn't good enough for us - Leicester or Bournemouth buy him in the summer, he rediscovers what made him so sought after the previous season, every 'expert' in here bemoans why we didn't get in earlier for him.
Yawn.
How about that Michael Seri eh?
Yawn.
How about that Michael Seri eh?
heelspurs
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Good post. Well reasoned reply.
My response would be that those are stats that do not tell the whole story. Watching him (which I'm sure you have) gives you a better understanding of his game. I think to the Brighton game and think what about that kid would have helped us in a situation like that? I struggle to find anything. His goals comes from inching up the field and being very close to goal. How would he get there in a game like that, a game we see often and Fulham never does?
You say he has 'flaws' but I say he has deficiencies. You can argue tomato-toma(h)to but there is a difference. Ndombele is a little cavalier with the ball near his box but he actually does have the ability to do what he does = a flaw. Sessegnon doesn't seem to have the technical ability necessary to play up front and doesn't seem to have the defensive instincts to play in the back = deficiencies.
I also think folks will realize that he is in fact not quite as pacy as they think he is.
Outside of quoting goal/assist (shiny objects) stats I ask you to tell me something he does that is better than a slew of other players. I feel like I have had this same debate 3-4 years ago with folks about Tripps. they justified his transfer with assist/cross stats but neglected the fact that he was shit defender...and even after 4 years of coaching is still a shit defender. I just feel a bit of deja vu.
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